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bigtree

(93,131 posts)
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 07:47 PM Sep 22

This will cause a deadly wave of preventable infectious diseases in the country. "It's crazy."

...mostly will be traceable back to his maga followers.

Acyn @Acyn
Trump on Vaccines: Don't let them pump your baby up with the largest pile of stuff you've ever seen in your life…

Trump claims babies being given ‘massive vaccines like you’d give to a horse’ as autism announcement looms

Trump claims babies being given ‘massive vaccines like you’d give to a horse’ as autism announcement looms

“And I’ve said for a long time, I mean, this is no secret – spread them out over five years. Get five shots, small ones. Did you ever see what they give? I mean, for a little baby to be injected with that much fluid, even beyond the actual ingredients, they have sometimes 80 different vaccines in them. It’s crazy.”

“You know that’s a common sense thing too… It’s like you’re shooting up a horse. You have a little body, a little baby, and you’re pumping this big thing. It’s a horrible thing. So I’ve always felt that. But we’ll be having a big discussion about autism tomorrow,” he continued.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-vaccines-children-autism-horse-b2831201.html


Trump says Tylenol is likely cause of autism, urges pregnant women not to take it

“Don’t take Tylenol,” Trump said repeatedly during a Sept. 22 news conference alongside Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “Fight like hell not to take it.”

Trump said the Food and Drug Administration will soon notify physicians the use of acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol, is associated with an increased risk of autism and that women should avoid the painkiller during pregnancy. He said women should also avoid giving Tylenol to their newborn.

Kennedy said the FDA’s recommendation is based on clinical and laboratory studies. Yet health agencies across the world and other medical experts have not found a definitive link between Tylenol and autism.

Experts say multiple factors contribute to autism, and the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists both endorsed using acetaminophen during pregnancy this month.

“Don’t let them pump your baby up with the largest pile of stuff you’ve ever seen in your life going into the delicate little body of a baby," Trump said, without providing evidence for the need to split up vaccines.

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/22/trump-links-tylenol-during-pregnancy-to-autism/86297016007/


“I think I can say there are certain groups of people that don’t take vaccines and don’t take any pills that have no autism. That have no autism. Does that tell you something? … Is that a correct statement, by the way?” Trump asked RFK Jr.

“There are some studies that suggest, yeah, with the Amish, for example,” Kennedy said.

“The Amish, yeah. Virtually — I heard none. See, Bobby wants to be very careful with what he says, and he should. But I’m not so careful with what I say. But you have certain groups, the Amish as an example. They have essentially no autism,” Trump said.

“I will say there are parts of the world that don’t take Tylenol,” Trump said. “And there’s a rumor and I don’t know if it’s so or not, that Cuba — they don’t have Tylenol because they don’t have the money for Tylenol. And they have virtually no autism. Tell me about that one,” Trump said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/5-wildest-moments-from-trump-and-rfk-s-presser-on-autism/ar-AA1N5ItC


___U.S. health officials warned that acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol and more than 600 other medications, should be avoided in early pregnancy except in cases of high fever — a sharp pivot in public health guidance on a medication many major medical associations, including the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, says are safe. The administration said the Food and Drug Administration would be updating the drug’s labeling and a letter would be sent to all physicians in the country.

Trump also highlighted leucovorin — a drug used to treat the side effects of certain cancer medications — as a potential autism treatment. Early trials involving small groups of children have shown encouraging gains in speech. Though researchers emphasize the need for larger studies, the administration said the FDA would move to formally acknowledge the drug’s potential use in autism treatment and ask states to monitor and study its use.

Some expressed concerns that the warnings could prompt pregnant individuals to avoid Tylenol even when sick, or push parents to try leucovorin without proper medical oversight and limited understanding of its effectiveness or long-term risks. But the concerns run deeper than medical misuse.

What alarms many in the scientific community is the politicized rush to present these drugs as solutions, bypassing the slow careful work research demands. They warn that drawing broad conclusions from incomplete evidence isn’t just premature, but reckless. And it risks undermining the public trust that is the foundation of public health.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/as-trump-ties-tylenol-to-autism-doctors-raise-alarms-and-urge-more-research/ar-AA1N5XtP


The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists was quick to dispute Trump’s claims, saying that there was no clear evidence linking the use of acetaminophen to autism or other risks to fetal development. Other pain- and fever-reducing medications, such as ibuprofen and aspirin, carry risks during pregnancy, and acetaminophen is the only over-the-counter drug approved to treat fevers during pregnancy.

Trump’s announcement “is not backed by the full body of scientific evidence and dangerously simplifies the many and complex causes of neurologic challenges in children,” said ACOG President Dr. Steven Fleischman in a statement. “It is highly unsettling that our federal health agencies are willing to make an announcement that will affect the health and well-being of millions of people without the backing of reliable data.”

Untreated fever in pregnancy is associated with miscarriage, fetal organ malformations and cardiovascular complications, and even autism, according to a 2021 statement from the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine.

“The conditions people use acetaminophen to treat during pregnancy are far more dangerous than any theoretical risks,” Fleischman said.

https://time.com/7319473/trump-links-tylenol-to-autism/


Explainer: Trump on autism | Tylenol is bad, m’kay? And so are vaccines

The people on the dais with Trump at the event: Dr. Oz – not making that up, either; Dr. Oz runs the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services – along with two COVID-denier docs, Marty Makary (FDA) and Jay Bhattacharya (National Institutes of Health), and of course, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who strengthens his immune system by swimming in sewage.

In addition to the edict from the murderer’s row on Tylenol, Trump announced Monday that his FDA has approved a chemotherapy drug, leucovorin, as a treatment to alleviate symptoms of autism.

Leucovorin has shown in clinical trials that it can help some children with autism improve their speech, but studies of the effectiveness on a wider scale are still very, very early.

How early: the data in favor of treatment with leucovorin is “from four small randomized controlled trials, all using different doses and different outcomes, and in one case, reliant on a specific genetic variant,” according to the Autism Science Foundation.

It would be fair to assume that the pharmaceutical companies who make leucovorin are on Team Trump.

And, that the makers of Tylenol are not.

https://augustafreepress.com/news/explainer-trump-on-autism-tylenol-is-bad-mkay-and-so-are-vaccines/

....quotes from Trump at today’s presser:

'Tylenol'

“I think you shouldn’t take it. You shouldn’t take it during the entire pregnancy. They may tell you, toward the end of the pregnancy. You shouldn’t take it during the entire.”

“For instance, in cases of extremely high fever that you feel you can’t tough it out, you can’t do it, I guess there is that. It’s a small number of cases, I think. But if you can’t tough it out, if you can’t do it, that’s what you’re gonna have to do. You’ll take a Tylenol, but it will be very sparingly. It can be something that’s very dangerous to the woman’s health. In other words, a fever that’s very, very dangerous, and ideally a doctor’s decision.”

“I just recommend strongly that you don’t use Tylenol. I just want to say it like it is. Don’t takeTylenol. Don’t take it! Fight like hell not to take it.”

“Taking Tylenol is, uh, not good. I’ll say it. It’s not good.”


...reporter questions and Trump answers:

Q: The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists put out a statement saying ‘acetaminophen remains a safe option for pain relief during pregnancy.’ That’s at odds with you.
TRUMP: That’s the establishment. They’re funded by lots of different groups. And you know what? Maybe they’re right.
Q: Why do you think we haven’t heard more previously about the tie to autism and acetaminophen?
TRUMP: Nobody knows. I don’t know. When you say it, you get attacked.


...even more inanity and insanity about Tylenol and vaccines:

“It doesn’t exist with the Amish community, and they don’t take all this junk. It doesn’t exist.”

“For some reason, they insist that you put it all into the body, and maybe that’s the drug companies make more money that way. Maybe it’s the doctors because they get more money. Who the hell knows what it is. Don’t do it.”

“It’s too much liquid. Too many different things are going into that baby at too big a number. The size of this thing, when you look at it, it’s, like, 80 different vaccines, and beyond vaccines.”

“They’re pumping, it looks like they’re pumping into a horse. You have a little child, a little fragile child, and you get a vat of 80 different vaccines, I guess, 80 different blends, and they pump it in.”

“It’s so important to me, to see the doctor four times or five times for a vaccine. Don’t let them pump your baby up with the largest pile of stuff you’ve ever seen in your life, going into the delicate little body of a baby.”

“We want no mercury in the vaccine. We want no aluminum in the vaccine. The MMR I think should be taken separately. This is based on what I feel. The mumps, measles, the … all three should be taken separately. It seems to be that when you mix them, there could be a problem.”

“Hepatitis B again, that’s sexually transmitted, and I think you should wait until 12, you know. I’m making these statements from me. I’m not making them from these doctors … I talk about a lot of common sense.”


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This will cause a deadly wave of preventable infectious diseases in the country. "It's crazy." (Original Post) bigtree Sep 22 OP
Maybe instead of vaccines, they should "introduce light into the body". LuckyCharms Sep 22 #1
LOL!! yes.... some_of_us_are_sane Sep 22 #2
"it's too much liquid" bigtree Sep 22 #5
LOL!! some_of_us_are_sane Sep 22 #17
Honest to God that guy is beyond dangerous. Klarkashton Sep 22 #3
From the College of Batshit Crazy.... some_of_us_are_sane Sep 22 #10
It's cold comfort to assume that this level of intense Klarkashton Sep 22 #13
The Amish don't have Autism? haele Sep 22 #4
he heard a rumor bigtree Sep 22 #6
From that phantasmic "they' B.See Sep 22 #14
I was wondering that myself canetoad Sep 22 #12
Sociologists study the Amish all the time... haele Sep 23 #18
Interesting canetoad Sep 23 #19
What the hell is this even supposed to mean? Wiz Imp Sep 22 #7
People have always been able to space out vaccines SickOfTheOnePct Sep 22 #8
AP HEADLINE:Trump administration raises unfounded concerns about autism-vaccine link spanone Sep 22 #9
he is so fucking ridiculous Skittles Sep 22 #11
Sounds like he's channeling the Cha Sep 22 #15
The "largest pile of...STUFF... B.See Sep 22 #16

Klarkashton

(4,507 posts)
3. Honest to God that guy is beyond dangerous.
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 08:09 PM
Sep 22

He thinks he is some kind of half assed doctor.

Those others standing up there should be ashamed of themselves for this performance. God help us.

some_of_us_are_sane

(2,421 posts)
10. From the College of Batshit Crazy....
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 09:46 PM
Sep 22

hereby rendered to Donald J. Trump (along with a swift kick in the ass)

Klarkashton

(4,507 posts)
13. It's cold comfort to assume that this level of intense
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 10:20 PM
Sep 22

Bullshit can't be sustained. At least by historical standards.

haele

(14,809 posts)
4. The Amish don't have Autism?
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 08:24 PM
Sep 22

Or is it, the Amish, with their simple, repetitive traditional lifestyle, don't care enough about Autism to get their kids diagnosed and "treated".
I've 2nd cousins in Pennsylvania Dutch area, Autism and ADHD aren't big issues if you're not working in a job that's considered complex, requires independent or quick thinking or flexibility, or requires one to go to college.

Autism is on "the increase" because diagnosis tools have improved over the decades.

canetoad

(19,761 posts)
12. I was wondering that myself
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 10:13 PM
Sep 22

How the hell would trump, or anyone for that matter, know the prevalence of autism in the Amish?

haele

(14,809 posts)
18. Sociologists study the Amish all the time...
Tue Sep 23, 2025, 12:03 AM
Sep 23

They're a relatively stable isolated community, so they're easy to control for.
The issue with Autism is that as a condition, unless you're absolutely not functional, the amount of impact it might have on your life is only noticable due to the complexity of your society.
I suspect my daughter's boyfriend is a high functioning Autistic - he's in the construction trade; he's considered a good worker - partially because he's able to control his outbursts and peculiarities in public.

Wiz Imp

(7,850 posts)
7. What the hell is this even supposed to mean?
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 09:12 PM
Sep 22

"I mean, for a little baby to be injected with that much fluid, even beyond the actual ingredients, they have sometimes 80 different vaccines in them."

The vaccines aren't part of the ingredients????

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
8. People have always been able to space out vaccines
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 09:16 PM
Sep 22

We did it more than 30 years ago - no more than once vaccine at a time, with at least a week between shots.

spanone

(140,538 posts)
9. AP HEADLINE:Trump administration raises unfounded concerns about autism-vaccine link
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 09:20 PM
Sep 22

President Donald Trump on Monday promoted unproven ties between Tylenol, vaccines and autism without offering new medical evidence.

“Don’t take Tylenol,” Trump instructed pregnant women around a dozen times during the unwieldy White House news conference, also urging mothers not to give their infants the drug, known by the generic name acetaminophen. He also repeated long-debunked claims that ingredients in vaccines or timing shots close together could contribute to rising rates of autism in the U.S., without providing medical evidence.

The rambling announcement, which appeared to rely on existing studies rather than significant new research, comes as the Make America Healthy Again movement has been pushing for answers on the causes of autism.

https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-news-updates-9-22-2025

Skittles

(168,361 posts)
11. he is so fucking ridiculous
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 09:53 PM
Sep 22

Amish folk don't have autistic kids?

Yes, there are autistic individuals within the Amish community, although the prevalence may be underreported due to cultural factors and limited access to healthcare. Myths suggesting that Amish children do not have autism are not supported by scientific evidence

B.See

(7,208 posts)
16. The "largest pile of...STUFF...
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 10:33 PM
Sep 22

I've ever seen in MY life is squatting in the Oval Office TRYING to play God.

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