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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have something to say:
So Im sitting on my porch handing out Halloween candy. I have a table with four Pyrex bowls each with a different kind of candy. As each person comes up, I say you may take one from each bowl.
I would estimate that roughly one fifth of the kids cheat. They think I dont see them but I do. The older kids I dont say a word but give them the eye. Theyre already formed. The little kids I say, you took more than one from that bowl, please put the extra one back which they do, and I hope theyll think twice in the future and in life.
Now interestingly, I live near a Section 8 development and a lot of the kids come from there. I would say their rate of not listening to me is about 5%. Its the middle-class kids who arent listening. Someone needs to convince me not to be surprised.
Silent Type
(11,722 posts)I hate that they live in fear of their families being separated.
Hope we see all of them next year.
PCIntern
(27,752 posts)A lot of families wont leave their house because theyre afraid of getting picked up. ICE. is real busy near where I am out there.
JustAnotherGen
(37,327 posts)So sweet.
Silent Type
(11,722 posts)ForgedCrank
(2,944 posts)the huge bowl down off the table and let the little ones take out all they want. the teenagers get one piece of candy that I put in their bag. The little ones think they hit pay dirt, it's really cool
PCIntern
(27,752 posts)Id have a riot here if I tried that
ForgedCrank
(2,944 posts)shouldn't be, but I get irritated by the teenagers. They are often obnoxious, and way too old to be out collecting candy. I see it as a fun night for the little ones, that's why I do it. I'm on break right now, wife is manning the station. We usually hand out 3 or 4, 5lb bags of candy depending on the weather for the year. Tonight has been really busy. The only thing that gets in the way are their parents, often telling them "that's enough that's enough", but I encourage them to keep digging, I love to see the smiles.
PCIntern
(27,752 posts)We were off about 40% because it was cold and really really windy. What I said to the older kids was Arent you a little old for this? You should be out on a date . they get quiet
Wednesdays
(21,204 posts)The ones out later than that are teens, usually looking for trouble.
Staph
(6,436 posts)I held out my bowl and said "you may take two". Every kid over the age of three took two. A couple of the little ones grabbed a handful, but that's okay. Most of them said thank you, too.
FYI, I was dressed as Professor McGonigle from Harry Potter, wand and all. Maybe I intimidated them!
Billsdaughter
(97 posts)Former and current. I trick or treated through Freshman year of high-school.
If people, no matter what age, dress up they get candy. That's my line in the sand.
Wishing everyone a safe and spooky fun Hallo-weekend! Boo!
AverageOldGuy
(3,116 posts)A few years ago we had not stocked up on candy. Wife is retired high school English teacher who always had a few boxes of new standard yellow #2 pencils . We gave kids a choice of candy or a pencil over half the kids took the pencil!!
Since then we have always laid in a good supply of both. Pencils are still a hit.
This year I was not paying attention and I ordered two gross - 24 dozen - pencils from Amazon - #2, variety of designs and colors. Gave my daughter who lives on Capitol Hill one gross - 144 pencils she ran out!
We live in an apartment building with only a few kids. First kid took two pencils and said something like Wow! I need a pencil for school! So I gave each a dozen. Only about a dozen other kids came by, gave each kid six, have six left now.
erronis
(21,799 posts)TomSlick
(12,779 posts)I give out a handful at a time.
WhiskeyGrinder
(25,923 posts)it's just a fun holiday my dude
Wednesdays
(21,204 posts)...was to hold open your bag, and the giver dropped in whatever they chose.
That was the etiquette in my circle, but YMMV.
Abolishinist
(2,813 posts)Halloween has rules. Having fun for the sake of fun is not an option!
Four bowls, pick only one from each. If you take two from bowl one, two from bowl two, and none from bowls three and four you've broken the rules! How dare you!
meadowlander
(5,018 posts)Why should they get less than other kids because of arbitrary rules?
I enjoyed Halloween when I was kid and got buckets full of free candy. I'm happy to pay it forward now, even to the surly ungrateful teens who grab a handful and can't even be bothered to say thank you. What am I going to do otherwise? Just sit around eating a bunch of junk that isn't good for me anyway.
It's every bit as important to role model generosity and the ability to have fun and get into the spirit of things as it is to enforce honesty.
PCIntern
(27,752 posts)Because each bowl had a different type of treat ok? Because I get maybe 500 kids and if I let the early kids take all they want the later kids will be shit out of luck and whats more:
For you oh-so- righteous folk, the kids from the section 8 housing come later because their parents get off from work later, and they would be the ones who I wasnt helping out. I know here it would be extremely upsetting if I said that I gave away all my candy to the rich white kids first, and then tough shit to the black kids and the Hispanic kids who came around. And you know what, those kids are the most polite, the parents are the most appreciative and I feel good about helping them out. If I let these early kids, just take what they want, There would be nothing left for the more disadvantaged kids. But I guess you folks have thousands of dollars worth of candy to give out every holiday and have tons of leftover. I spent almost $200 on candy and the hours down here are from 6 PM to 8 PM and I was virtually depleted by the end of the two hours. Please dont tell me what I should or need to do in my environment. Thats ignorant and uninformed of what I have to contend with, as opposed to what you have to deal with. Everyones situation is different and we handle it the best we can. Keep your criticisms to yourself.
Cirsium
(3,059 posts)We find that in our environmental organization work it is the upper middle class people who do not listen. I guess they already know everything, or so they think. Hey! They are highly successful people and you can't argue with success! Blue collar people, poor people, do listen.
appleannie1
(5,379 posts)a bowl of lolly pops. He also put out small water bottles. I put out a bowl of a variety of mini candy bars and a bowl of lolly pops. A friend had a big bowl of a variety of candy. I simply said you can have the choice of 2 on this table and the choice of two from these two bowls and a choice of two from that bowl. . They looked shocked. The older kids followed my direction. About 95% said thank you. The little ones grabbed a handful and told the parents it was ok when the parent tried to intervene. My son manned the adult trick or drink table. There were jello shots, marguaritas, and canned beer. Amazing how many adults came back for seconds after taking the kids home.
jfz9580m
(16,016 posts)I am one (albeit not American).
I would probably have stormed off in a huff at being explicitly told to take only one, rather than trusted to not take more than my share
;-/..I was always rather sensitive. I would have done it quietly though..
But it is one reason why I ponder how best to get people to listen wrt the tragedy of the commons for instance. There is no magic formula. I suppose we will only know when the world stops being as alarming as it is.