Vance makes up history. And fuzzies which Europeans he is talking about,

[applegrove]

because he is talking about what the Spanish found when they colonized vs. pre colonial USA or Canada.

This is complete fabrication. What a vulgar embarrassment for our country.
I hope we get some loud response from our Native American leadership.
#USDemocracy #Voices4Victory

— TommasinaResist⚜️🇨🇦🦋🐈‍⬛🇺🇦 (@tommasinaresist.bsky.social) 2025-10-31T14:52:12.505Z

[Straw Man]

1. If he's talking about the Spanish in South America ...

... then "Christian civilization ended the practice" of human sacrifice by introducing slavery and genocide.

[applegrove]

2. and genocide by germ and illness.

[ReRe]

3. "J.D. Vance, Historian"

[róisín_dubh]

4. Omg fuck this guy

No child sacrifice in what is now the US and Canada, that’s true. There’s evidence of limited child sacrifice among some Mesoamericans and Andeans. Limited.

And when Catholic priests showed up, they had to stop using the crucifix to forcibly evangelise, because clever Mesoamerican people pointed out that Catholics worshipped a sacrificed man.

Fuck you, Couch Fucker, from a lapsed Catholic scholar of Mexican Indigenous Peoples

[2naSalit]

5. +1

[John1956PA]

6. European diseases put an end to countless native people because they had no immunity against such diseases.

[Collimator]

7. The story of Abraham's WILLINGINNESS to sacrifice Issac comes to mind here.

Sunday school teachers like to shimmy around the subject by emphasizing that God stopped Abraham in the nick of time, but the point of the story remains the same: Obedience. God commands it and even if every fiber of your being knows it is wrong, you follow through.

This is one of the earliest memories that I carry from my own education into Christian Civilization. Abraham is the human prototype, while God, the Father, is the perfect expression. He sacrificed his only begotten son, after all. That is what the whole religion is founded upon: a parent who is willing to give his child to die.

[Tanuki]

8. And there is the story of Jephthah,

in the 11th chapter of the Book of Judges:
" Then the Spirit of the Lord came on Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites. 30 And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord: “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, 31 whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”

32 Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the Lord gave them into his hands. 33 He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon.

34 When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. 35 When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh no, my daughter! You have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the Lord that I cannot break.”

36 “My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the Lord. Do to me just as you promised, now that the Lord has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. 37 But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.”

38 “You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39 After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.

From this comes the Israelite tradition 40 that each year the young women of Israel go out for four days to commemorate the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite."

[Blue Owl]

9. Who the fuck is this goddamned fool?