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CatWoman

(80,043 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:49 AM Nov 2024

Trump confirms plans to use military for mass deportations

President-elect Trump confirmed Monday that he is planning to declare a national emergency and use the U.S. military to carry out mass deportations.

Why it matters: Trump made his promise to deport millions of undocumented immigrants one of the cornerstones of his 2024 campaign, and his team has already begun strategizing how to carry its plan out.

A Truth Social post early Monday is the first time the president-elect has confirmed how his administration will execute the controversial plan.

Driving the news: Tom Fitton, the president of the conservative group Judicial Watch, posted on Truth Social earlier this month that Trump was "prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program."

Trump reposted Fitton's comment Monday with the caption, "TRUE!!"

The big picture: There are an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. Trump's mass deportations are expected to impact roughly 20 million families across the country.

Immigration advocates and lawyers are preparing to counter the plan in court.

The president-elect's team is aiming to craft executive orders that can withstand legal challenges to avoid a similar defeat that befell Trump's Muslim ban in his first term, Politico reported.

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/18/trump-mass-deportations-military-national-emergency?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=social

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Trump confirms plans to use military for mass deportations (Original Post) CatWoman Nov 2024 OP
I can't grasp this at all. Karma13612 Nov 2024 #1
The courts will now support Trump. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #5
Yup republianmushroom Nov 2024 #20
Is it a plan to deport, or is it a planned provocation? bucolic_frolic Nov 2024 #2
This will backfire. milestogo Nov 2024 #3
Trump has immunity and the SC will back him. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #4
Agree republianmushroom Nov 2024 #21
I honestly believe that these monsters would be willing to bluestarone Nov 2024 #6
blue states must resist RJ_MacReady Nov 2024 #7
Just as a thought exercise sarisataka Nov 2024 #10
ignore it frankly RJ_MacReady Nov 2024 #11
No, the federal government may call up the National Guard with or without sarisataka Nov 2024 #13
I never said it would be easy RJ_MacReady Nov 2024 #14
He will impose martial law RainCaster Nov 2024 #8
Dump probably figures he wins no matter what. StarryNite Nov 2024 #9
Where is he planning to deport them to?... SidDithers Nov 2024 #12
They're only using the word 'deportation' until the orange convict takes power. Then it will be ethnic cleansing. Hotler Nov 2024 #15
Can someone explain how easy it is to declare a national emergency? Alice B. Nov 2024 #16
What does it take to declare a national emergency? CatWoman Nov 2024 #17
This can't be good for us. EndlessWire Nov 2024 #18
blue states RJ_MacReady Nov 2024 #19

Karma13612

(4,778 posts)
1. I can't grasp this at all.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:56 AM
Nov 2024

And I think back to Biden’s attempts to mitigate and control the flow of illegal immigrants into the country. He was stymied at every turn. The courts said no, and that was the end of it.

WRT Trump, Will all the courts capitulate? Or, If they tell him no, will tRump ignore the rulings and order the military to take actions against the courts and any applicable articles of the Constitution?


bucolic_frolic

(51,377 posts)
2. Is it a plan to deport, or is it a planned provocation?
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:58 AM
Nov 2024

I doubt this will go down well. And talk about wasting resources.

bluestarone

(19,934 posts)
6. I honestly believe that these monsters would be willing to
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:08 AM
Nov 2024

MASS bury the immigrants in a grave site. I really do.

 

RJ_MacReady

(448 posts)
7. blue states must resist
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:10 AM
Nov 2024

Any attempt to place soldiers in their state. Counter with their own state national gaurd if needed. The line must be drawn.

sarisataka

(21,800 posts)
10. Just as a thought exercise
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:30 AM
Nov 2024

What if the National Guard is federalized as part of these plans?

sarisataka

(21,800 posts)
13. No, the federal government may call up the National Guard with or without
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:39 AM
Nov 2024

the state's governor's approval.

Any member who ignored such a call would be opening themselves to possible court-martial. (The President has immunity, those who obey his orders do not)

StarryNite

(11,656 posts)
9. Dump probably figures he wins no matter what.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:22 AM
Nov 2024

Either he will use the military for mass deportations or he will be stopped in court. If he's stopped in court he will use that to tell his cult members that it's not his fault, blame it all on the "corrupt" Dems and the courts. His cult will rally behind him and start a bunch of shit which could likely put immigrants in danger if the cult tries to take matters into their own hands. Or his mass deportations will take place and we will all pay the price in so many horrible ways. No matter what, Dump will come out on top in the eyes of his cult and everybody else loses.

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
12. Where is he planning to deport them to?...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:34 AM
Nov 2024

Are they going to be dumped at border crossings with Mexico and Canada?

I can't imagine he'll be organizing deportation flights to countries around the world.

Sid

Hotler

(13,333 posts)
15. They're only using the word 'deportation' until the orange convict takes power. Then it will be ethnic cleansing.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:46 AM
Nov 2024

D11 Cat. bulldozers digging huge mass graves, one bullet to the back of the head. All lot cheaper than feeding, housing and transporting tens of thousands of people. When they get done with immigrants they'll come for us, political cleansing.

Alice B.

(553 posts)
16. Can someone explain how easy it is to declare a national emergency?
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:47 AM
Nov 2024

How does this work and what if any mechanisms are in place to keep it from being abused?

CatWoman

(80,043 posts)
17. What does it take to declare a national emergency?
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:03 PM
Nov 2024


(a) With respect to Acts of Congress authorizing the exercise, during the period of a national emergency, of any special or extraordinary power, the President is authorized to declare such national emergency. Such proclamation shall immediately be transmitted to the Congress and published in the Federal Register.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title50/chapter34&edition=prelim

EndlessWire

(7,974 posts)
18. This can't be good for us.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:05 PM
Nov 2024

Keeping in mind that tRump is a narcissistic, jerkoid asshole, it's extremely hard to imagine that he gives one damn about illegal immigrants. He also doesn't care to keep promises to the base that he no longer needs.

But, this can produce a "national emergency," and martial law. There is no true emergency. The target victims blended into the country and were working. Those baddies that came over either were swept up or will be swept up in the normal course of things. We used to be a nation of laws.

There will be no true emergency except the one made up by tRump et al. tRump needs this to impose his dictatorial will on us ALL, not just so-called illegal immigrants. How can we protect anybody, like our own families and neighbors, if we can be arrested under martial law? We're getting purged, people. We can at least call him out for this. Any military person who refuses service will probably be removed, too. And, we need them on our side.

 

RJ_MacReady

(448 posts)
19. blue states
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:13 PM
Nov 2024

Need to stand firm. Yes people this is where we are whether we admit it or not.

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