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tritsofme

(18,447 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 02:38 PM 14 hrs ago

In 2014, Scalia with Roberts, Thomas, and Alito argued that Trump's desired recess appointments are unconstitutional

The decision in NLRB v. Noel Canning, was unanimous in striking down certain recess appointments made by President Obama as unconstitutional.

Scalia wrote a concurrence, joined by the other conservatives (minus Kennedy), that argued the decision did not go far enough:

"that recess appointments will remain a powerful weapon in the President's arsenal. ... That is unfortunate, because the recess appointment power is an anachronism." Scalia argues that the recess appointment power only applies to vacancies that arise while the Senate is in recess.

Under this reasoning, even if Trump succeeded in forcing both chambers into recess, if the vacancies did not occur during that recess, any appointments would be unconstitutional.

It will be interesting to see if they can twist themselves out of this argument for Trump. But such a case would definitely be barreling toward the Supreme Court.

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In 2014, Scalia with Roberts, Thomas, and Alito argued that Trump's desired recess appointments are unconstitutional (Original Post) tritsofme 14 hrs ago OP
That was then. Whatever lame54 14 hrs ago #1
Different court now. We shall find out soon. riversedge 13 hrs ago #4
More-importantly MurrayDelph 10 hrs ago #9
Most likely they will do what Trump and their billionaire minders tell them to do. Irish_Dem 14 hrs ago #2
very interesting. NJCher 13 hrs ago #3
The plaintiffs would definitely be singing this tune to the conservative justices. tritsofme 8 hrs ago #10
you mean NJCher 7 hrs ago #11
So the senate recesses before Jan 20. al_liberal 12 hrs ago #5
Not really. Noel Canning stipulates a recess must last at least 10 days. tritsofme 12 hrs ago #6
Sorry, but you make it sound like precedent is a thing. Not with this Court. surfered 12 hrs ago #7
Thank you for the timely and important history. Kid Berwyn 11 hrs ago #8

al_liberal

(428 posts)
5. So the senate recesses before Jan 20.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 03:54 PM
12 hrs ago

And instantly all of those vacancies happen during a recess. Problem solved.

tritsofme

(18,447 posts)
6. Not really. Noel Canning stipulates a recess must last at least 10 days.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:01 PM
12 hrs ago

Also, Cabinet officials don’t automatically lose their jobs on 1/20, they must resign or be fired.

Kid Berwyn

(17,942 posts)
8. Thank you for the timely and important history.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:36 PM
11 hrs ago

I, for one, have the utmost faith in Justice John Roberts and his five co-conspirators in treason on SCROTUS will do whatever is necessary to undo precedent in order to advance the cause of concentrated wealth in service of White power.

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