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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsConsider this: Joe & Mika have self-destructed *
by aligning themselves with TSF. You can't be in the middle and claim you're being journalists. I say that because there's no way they can continue to have guests like Eugene Robinson and Al Sharpton tearing the Felon a new one every morning. TSF will send a message to cut it out.
They're now FOX Lite.
* I don't care whether Joe or Mika had an "epiphany" or the corporates at MSNBC told them to do it. If the latter, they should have resigned.
Bluetus
(77 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:33 PM - Edit history (1)
Nothing new or surprising here. Watch any evening in the past 8 years, if you have time and brain cells to burn. It will be little more than a steady stream of Trump speeches and citations and commentary. MSNBC may be Trump's biggest enabler because they normalized him with the audience that would have been the most inclined to oppose him.
Of course, they positioned themselves as the ones wagging the finger at Trump. Nonetheless, they gave Trump 10X more coverage than Biden or anybody else. Maybe 100X more coverage -- I don't know, I stopped watching that Comcast garbage a long time ago.
ancianita
(38,478 posts)surfered
(3,024 posts)PortTack
(34,628 posts)CTyankee
(64,993 posts)I think Joe and Mika have made a huge blunder in their careers.
You know the old saying: "Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas."
haele
(13,518 posts)What would matter most to them and most of the mainstream punditry class? Name recognition and access to the national camera and best parties, or Journalistic Integrity?
Neither are really experianced journalists to begin with. She was closest, being an English Major (nothing wrong with that, just means she should know better).
Haele
Deuxcents
(19,665 posts)hadEnuf
(2,689 posts)They have made themselves irrelevant.
BattleRow
(1,190 posts)Maru Kitteh
(29,070 posts)Paul-EM
(19 posts)The term "appeasement tour" comes to mind. Edit: To supplicate or not to supplicate....
NewHendoLib
(60,493 posts)Then again that's my view in TV in general
ancianita
(38,478 posts)Once a Republican sellout, always a Republican sellout. "You will know them by their fruits. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit." Matthew 7:16-18
gordianot
(15,511 posts)Ole Tweety was hot to get a viral quote such as women need to go to prison for abortion. You get that orange dyed infant in front of a microphone anything is possible HREFs also likes to insult people. Mika and Joe may be naive enough to think they are setting a trap.
AZ8theist
(6,483 posts)Not the least bit surprising he flip-flopped on the Treasonous pig.
Let's never forget, Jerk Off was PART OF THE PROBLEM in 2015. He had Dotard on his show practically every day. He kissed his ass relentlessly. He got married at Merde Lardo. He was a Dotard fan-boy until he wasn't. He realized what a disaster the treasonous liar is and always will be. Until now. Now he wants to kiss his ass again.
He is the ULTIMATE HYPOCRITE.
I never watch or listen to that asshole. NEVER.
City Lights
(25,286 posts)Joe has always been too sanctimonious for my taste.
Was Mika bleeding when she went to see Don this time around?
bucolic_frolic
(46,939 posts)alarimer
(16,564 posts)They are trying to save their own skin. Currying favor with the potentate.
LSparkle
(11,746 posts)Sorry Rachel that includes you. I also love Lawrence but I hope they both leave that cesspool behind and go do good work elsewhere.
bdamomma
(66,329 posts)and Al Sharpton should leave too.
AngryOldDem
(14,176 posts)I hope that Joy, Nicolle, Chris, Ali, Lawrence, and most everybody else has more integrity than Joe and Mika. They should be shunned, quite frankly. I cannot abide hypocrites and anybody else who would suck up to Trump. Cowards.
No wonder MSNBCs ratings have dropped. I used to watch MJ for awhile before I left for work. Not anymore.
We need the TV equivalent of Air America right now. A no bullshit network.
bdamomma
(66,329 posts)media is filling the void now. Dr. Mary Trump and the Nerd Avengers, Robert Reich, Meidas Touch, Glenn Kirschner (Justice Matters), Randi Rhodes on Free Speech Tv. Keith Olbermann and so on. They must be "subscribed" and info shared.
onecaliberal
(35,754 posts)calimary
(84,268 posts)pamdb
(1,368 posts)Been a Morning Joe watching since maybe 2016? No more. I just got back two hours in the morning.
Maybe they should rewatch Game of Thrones and see what happens when you bend the knee. I always figured if the repubs got a candidate that was more like Saint Ronnie he'd jump back in the fold, but this...
I just hope Nicolle Wallace doesn't follow suit.
or Rachel
Demsrule86
(71,005 posts)TNNurse
(7,118 posts)Hoping those great liberal guests they have had in the past shun them.
AngryOldDem
(14,176 posts)Especially those former intelligence and military experts.
MSNBC, Joe, and Mika have stepped in a huge, steaming pile of bull excrement here.
La Coliniere
(827 posts)and dont plan on watching anytime soon, maybe never again. My wife, who has always detested both of them said last week, Theyll be kissing the felons ass pretty soon, after she read that MSNBC lost half its viewership since the election. She was correct, as usual.
robleb
(271 posts)Mika is just a news reader pretending to be a journalist.
Joe is just a republican playing games, but with no real convictions.
They are not FOX-lite.
They are dumbass-heavy.
3catwoman3
(25,416 posts)...was blown to smithereens by that stupid pose.
live love laugh
(14,390 posts)I dont understand how people believed that they were anything other than that.
They are who they always were.
claudette
(4,468 posts)seemed to fight hard for womens reproductive rights. Now she kisses the butt of the man responsible for the calamity
AngryOldDem
(14,176 posts)SharonClark
(10,323 posts)Self promoting and self-serving people on TV. Neither is a journalist and recently they have really gotten into interviewing celebrities from Broadway and Hollywood.
Mika is an elitist and Joe is a blithering grifter. Their marriage was a match made in heaven.
CTyankee
(64,993 posts)He was separated, she was not. I think she said something like "The heart has its reasons" for her rather disgusting behavior.
amuse bouche
(3,665 posts)I was completely disgusted. Buh bye capitulators
Dock_Yard
(153 posts)Figarosmom
(2,529 posts)flashman13
(851 posts)and always has been. His show is a fake. His whole persona is just an act. It is time to change sides again. He has done so many times in the past. There will be more.
ColinC
(10,660 posts)Just in different ways.
claudette
(4,468 posts)NEVER watch them again. The lowest of hypocrites. I could barely stand Joe anyway. He rambles and rambles. But to kiss Dumpys orange butt is too much for me. Makes me want to 🤮
paleotn
(19,165 posts)The reich already hates them. Why not piss off the other side too!
carpetbagger
(4,752 posts)Scarborough was a Gingrich protege, so no surprise.
Maybe not fully right wing, but certainly they're the couple from the morning show on Don't Look Up.
KatyaR
(3,527 posts)is gone now. How could they do that, especially with the way TFG spoke about Mika?
It's disgusting, all around.
Jarqui
(10,482 posts)With the election over: "Boost your ratings/advertising by sucking up to Trump or you're done here"
Trump won't give them the time of day unless they meet his 'conditions'
Like nearly all of Trump's relationships, it isn't going to end well.
Stick a fork in them. They're done but just don't realize it yet.
iluvtennis
(20,834 posts)all in the name of RATINGS. Morning Joe has now lost me - I stopped watching today around 615am EST.
Will only be DVR'ing Nicole Wallace, Lawrence O'Donnell, and Rachel Maddow.
Hassler
(3,670 posts)Intractable
(476 posts)They were never to be taken seriously.
Emile
(29,707 posts)FSogol
(46,464 posts)out normalizing him. So sad it took so long for everyone to figure it out.
Roc2020
(1,710 posts)Stick a fork in them. Unless MSNBC wants to keep them on to save face.
IcyPeas
(22,601 posts)Also being on the west coast their show comes on at 3 a.m. so I've never really watched them.
returnee
(276 posts)DontBelieveEastisEas
(1,088 posts)brush
(57,459 posts)It sure puts most of their regular guests like WAPO's Eugene Robinson, Rev. Al Sharton, Donny Deutsch and other left-of-center regulars in an awkward position as they know the pair went to kiss trump's ass.
We have to see what they will do.
Passages
(998 posts)Deuxcents
(19,665 posts)Hotler
(12,142 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(12,544 posts)ForgedCrank
(2,186 posts)we are burning down journalists who interview public figures that we don't like?
If someone doesn't do it, how the hell are we supposed to know what he's up to?
I absolutely do not understand what the problem is here.
newdeal2
(957 posts)With or without Morning Joe interviewing him.
Yavin4
(36,315 posts)They kissed his ass at his dinner party.
ForgedCrank
(2,186 posts)don't understand this though. they are supposed to be journalists, not emotional support talking heads. I don't want them telling me what I want to hear, I want them telling me the truth. They are a utility, a tool, not a friend or political ally. At least, that is what they are supposed to be.,
Yavin4
(36,315 posts)One, neither Joe or Mika are journalists. They are editorialists at best. Two, Trump is not some pol that we don't like. He's a fascist authoritarian that threatens all of us. Three, they didn't meet with him to interview him. They met with him to cozy up to him.They flattered him. They didn't challenge him.
If you don't see the problem, maybe this site isn't for you.
ForgedCrank
(2,186 posts)yourself. If you can't tolerate other opinions, maybe this site isn't for you.
DET
(1,679 posts)Havent watched in a while. I really liked their regular guests (especially Eugene Robinson and Donny Deutsch) and their round table discussions. I have no idea why they thought kissing up to Trump was a good idea, but like others, Im done.
TheKentuckian
(26,134 posts)then they may have some concerning blind spots in the category of ally selection.
All they exist for is to red shift their audience.
Skittles
(159,061 posts)and I have been proven correct
Faux pas
(15,360 posts)care do you? He's always been a pompous ASSHOLE and she has lost all credibility as an empowerer of women way before she became Joe's permanent lapdog. Disgusting