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no_hypocrisy

(48,745 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 03:50 PM 12 hrs ago

Consider this: Joe & Mika have self-destructed *

by aligning themselves with TSF. You can't be in the middle and claim you're being journalists. I say that because there's no way they can continue to have guests like Eugene Robinson and Al Sharpton tearing the Felon a new one every morning. TSF will send a message to cut it out.

They're now FOX Lite.

* I don't care whether Joe or Mika had an "epiphany" or the corporates at MSNBC told them to do it. If the latter, they should have resigned.

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Consider this: Joe & Mika have self-destructed * (Original Post) no_hypocrisy 12 hrs ago OP
"They're now FOX Lite." They always were Bluetus 12 hrs ago #1
Yep, they always played to where they thought the political power was. Good riddance to profit seeking equivocators. ancianita 11 hrs ago #5
They gave him airtime in 2016 for ratings. Now, maybe they just don't want to be sent off to a re-education camp. surfered 12 hrs ago #2
Don't f..ing care! PortTack 12 hrs ago #4
BIG mistake and your point is well taken! Eugene in particular must be shaking his head. He's a great guy. CTyankee 12 hrs ago #3
They're saving their butts. haele 11 hrs ago #6
Saving their butts but not their reputation. Flip flopping again 😤 Deuxcents 8 hrs ago #51
They are now officially just another part of the right-wing Trump Wurlitzer. hadEnuf 11 hrs ago #7
Worthlesstzer BattleRow 11 hrs ago #16
Nicely done there. Maru Kitteh 6 hrs ago #66
hmm Paul-EM 11 hrs ago #8
I've never watched them and no idea why anyone does NewHendoLib 11 hrs ago #9
Me, neither. ancianita 11 hrs ago #11
I suspect they are hoping for a Tweetie moment. gordianot 11 hrs ago #10
Morning Jerk Off can go fuck himself... AZ8theist 11 hrs ago #12
I dumped those two years ago and never looked back. City Lights 11 hrs ago #13
They had a long run, but the game is up. bucolic_frolic 11 hrs ago #14
Obeying in advance alarimer 11 hrs ago #15
MSNBC is dead to me LSparkle 11 hrs ago #17
Joy Reid bdamomma 9 hrs ago #41
They all should leave. AngryOldDem 9 hrs ago #44
Independent bdamomma 9 hrs ago #48
Same. The Rev and Joy too. onecaliberal 8 hrs ago #50
I don't watch 'em, and never trusted them. calimary 10 hrs ago #18
No more pamdb 10 hrs ago #19
Right claudette 10 hrs ago #31
Yes Joe and Mika are dead to me. Demsrule86 10 hrs ago #20
Have not watched in quite awhile. TNNurse 10 hrs ago #21
Mass exodus is definitely called for. AngryOldDem 9 hrs ago #45
Haven't watched those opportunists since Monday November 4th La Coliniere 10 hrs ago #22
Frauds robleb 10 hrs ago #23
Any claim to serious journlism Mika may have hoped for... 3catwoman3 8 hrs ago #52
LOL live love laugh 10 hrs ago #24
Mika claudette 10 hrs ago #30
"Know your worth!" AngryOldDem 9 hrs ago #46
Mika and Joe have always been the most SharonClark 8 hrs ago #49
I wonder how much they paid to her ex husband whom she cheated on when she started her affair with Joe? CTyankee 6 hrs ago #59
I tuned them in this am. After 5 minutes amuse bouche 10 hrs ago #25
I gave them 8. Then OFF. For a very long time to come. Dock_Yard 5 hrs ago #70
I stopped watching them long ago. Nt Figarosmom 10 hrs ago #26
If you were a regular listener of Olbermann you would know Scarborough is a fake flashman13 10 hrs ago #27
Most of us have ColinC 10 hrs ago #28
I will claudette 10 hrs ago #29
And now they have no audience. paleotn 10 hrs ago #32
Brezinski's dad must be rolling over in his grave carpetbagger 10 hrs ago #33
Yeah, what very little regard I had for them KatyaR 10 hrs ago #34
Cable is stagnating. Little to no growth since 2008 Jarqui 10 hrs ago #35
I was really pissed off when they announce they went to kiss the ring of TSF over the weekend. And I think it is iluvtennis 10 hrs ago #36
Opportunism is as opportunism does Hassler 9 hrs ago #37
One has to bear in mind how it all started. Intractable 9 hrs ago #38
Watch CSPAN Washington Journal in that time slot. Emile 9 hrs ago #39
Did everyone forget they did the same thing when he ran for president the first time? They started FSogol 9 hrs ago #40
They are done Roc2020 9 hrs ago #42
Are they "journalists" though? Or tv news presenters whose bosses give the orders. IcyPeas 9 hrs ago #43
I find them incredibly annoying. nt returnee 9 hrs ago #47
Such hypocrisy DontBelieveEastisEas 8 hrs ago #53
Agreed. Their pilgrimage to MAL reveals who they really are. brush 8 hrs ago #54
Comcast News, don't watch it. Passages 8 hrs ago #55
Was not happy when they let Medhi Hassan and Tiffany Cross go. Will see who stands tall after this Deuxcents 8 hrs ago #56
They're going to call us mean and nasty in the morning for the things we said here today. Hotler 6 hrs ago #57
They're sell outs who have lost a viewer MustLoveBeagles 6 hrs ago #58
So now ForgedCrank 6 hrs ago #60
We will hear about every fart from that guy for the next 4 years newdeal2 6 hrs ago #61
They didn't interview him. Yavin4 6 hrs ago #63
I still ForgedCrank 6 hrs ago #64
Bullshit. Yavin4 6 hrs ago #62
Speak for ForgedCrank 6 hrs ago #65
Another One Bites the Dust DET 5 hrs ago #67
If folks are feeling betrayed by Joe and Mika TheKentuckian 5 hrs ago #68
I have always found them insufferable Skittles 5 hrs ago #69
I don't Faux pas 5 hrs ago #71

Bluetus

(77 posts)
1. "They're now FOX Lite." They always were
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 03:57 PM
12 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Nothing new or surprising here. Watch any evening in the past 8 years, if you have time and brain cells to burn. It will be little more than a steady stream of Trump speeches and citations and commentary. MSNBC may be Trump's biggest enabler because they normalized him with the audience that would have been the most inclined to oppose him.

Of course, they positioned themselves as the ones wagging the finger at Trump. Nonetheless, they gave Trump 10X more coverage than Biden or anybody else. Maybe 100X more coverage -- I don't know, I stopped watching that Comcast garbage a long time ago.

ancianita

(38,478 posts)
5. Yep, they always played to where they thought the political power was. Good riddance to profit seeking equivocators.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:34 PM
11 hrs ago

surfered

(3,024 posts)
2. They gave him airtime in 2016 for ratings. Now, maybe they just don't want to be sent off to a re-education camp.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:05 PM
12 hrs ago

CTyankee

(64,993 posts)
3. BIG mistake and your point is well taken! Eugene in particular must be shaking his head. He's a great guy.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:08 PM
12 hrs ago

I think Joe and Mika have made a huge blunder in their careers.

You know the old saying: "Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas."

haele

(13,518 posts)
6. They're saving their butts.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:34 PM
11 hrs ago

What would matter most to them and most of the mainstream punditry class? Name recognition and access to the national camera and best parties, or Journalistic Integrity?
Neither are really experianced journalists to begin with. She was closest, being an English Major (nothing wrong with that, just means she should know better).

Haele

hadEnuf

(2,689 posts)
7. They are now officially just another part of the right-wing Trump Wurlitzer.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:35 PM
11 hrs ago

They have made themselves irrelevant.

ancianita

(38,478 posts)
11. Me, neither.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:09 PM
11 hrs ago

Once a Republican sellout, always a Republican sellout. "You will know them by their fruits. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit." Matthew 7:16-18

gordianot

(15,511 posts)
10. I suspect they are hoping for a Tweetie moment.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:07 PM
11 hrs ago

Ole Tweety was hot to get a viral quote such as “women need to go to prison for abortion”. You get that orange dyed infant in front of a microphone anything is possible HREF’s also likes to insult people. Mika and Joe may be naive enough to think they are setting a trap.

AZ8theist

(6,483 posts)
12. Morning Jerk Off can go fuck himself...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:10 PM
11 hrs ago

Not the least bit surprising he flip-flopped on the Treasonous pig.

Let's never forget, Jerk Off was PART OF THE PROBLEM in 2015. He had Dotard on his show practically every day. He kissed his ass relentlessly. He got married at Merde Lardo. He was a Dotard fan-boy until he wasn't. He realized what a disaster the treasonous liar is and always will be. Until now. Now he wants to kiss his ass again.

He is the ULTIMATE HYPOCRITE.

I never watch or listen to that asshole. NEVER.

City Lights

(25,286 posts)
13. I dumped those two years ago and never looked back.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:16 PM
11 hrs ago

Joe has always been too sanctimonious for my taste.

Was Mika bleeding when she went to see Don this time around?

LSparkle

(11,746 posts)
17. MSNBC is dead to me
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:19 PM
11 hrs ago

Sorry Rachel that includes you. I also love Lawrence but I hope they both leave that cesspool behind and go do good work elsewhere.

AngryOldDem

(14,176 posts)
44. They all should leave.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:57 PM
9 hrs ago

I hope that Joy, Nicolle, Chris, Ali, Lawrence, and most everybody else has more integrity than Joe and Mika. They should be shunned, quite frankly. I cannot abide hypocrites and anybody else who would suck up to Trump. Cowards.

No wonder MSNBC’s ratings have dropped. I used to watch MJ for awhile before I left for work. Not anymore.

We need the TV equivalent of Air America right now. A no bullshit network.

bdamomma

(66,329 posts)
48. Independent
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:26 PM
9 hrs ago

media is filling the void now. Dr. Mary Trump and the Nerd Avengers, Robert Reich, Meidas Touch, Glenn Kirschner (Justice Matters), Randi Rhodes on Free Speech Tv. Keith Olbermann and so on. They must be "subscribed" and info shared.

pamdb

(1,368 posts)
19. No more
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:39 PM
10 hrs ago

Been a Morning Joe watching since maybe 2016? No more. I just got back two hours in the morning.
Maybe they should rewatch Game of Thrones and see what happens when you bend the knee. I always figured if the repubs got a candidate that was more like Saint Ronnie he'd jump back in the fold, but this...

I just hope Nicolle Wallace doesn't follow suit.

TNNurse

(7,118 posts)
21. Have not watched in quite awhile.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:51 PM
10 hrs ago

Hoping those great liberal guests they have had in the past shun them.

AngryOldDem

(14,176 posts)
45. Mass exodus is definitely called for.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:01 PM
9 hrs ago

Especially those former intelligence and military experts.

MSNBC, Joe, and Mika have stepped in a huge, steaming pile of bull excrement here.

La Coliniere

(827 posts)
22. Haven't watched those opportunists since Monday November 4th
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:51 PM
10 hrs ago

and don’t plan on watching anytime soon, maybe never again. My wife, who has always detested both of them said last week, “They’ll be kissing the felon’s ass pretty soon”, after she read that MSNBC lost half its viewership since the election. She was correct, as usual.

robleb

(271 posts)
23. Frauds
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:56 PM
10 hrs ago

Mika is just a news reader pretending to be a journalist.
Joe is just a republican playing games, but with no real convictions.
They are not FOX-lite.
They are dumbass-heavy.


3catwoman3

(25,416 posts)
52. Any claim to serious journlism Mika may have hoped for...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:13 PM
8 hrs ago

...was blown to smithereens by that stupid pose.

live love laugh

(14,390 posts)
24. LOL
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:59 PM
10 hrs ago


They're now FOX Lite.


I don’t understand how people believed that they were anything other than that.

They are who they always were.

claudette

(4,468 posts)
30. Mika
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:16 PM
10 hrs ago

seemed to fight hard for women’s reproductive rights. Now she kisses the butt of the man responsible for the calamity

SharonClark

(10,323 posts)
49. Mika and Joe have always been the most
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:37 PM
8 hrs ago

Self promoting and self-serving people on TV. Neither is a journalist and recently they have really gotten into interviewing celebrities from Broadway and Hollywood.

Mika is an elitist and Joe is a blithering grifter. Their marriage was a match made in heaven.

CTyankee

(64,993 posts)
59. I wonder how much they paid to her ex husband whom she cheated on when she started her affair with Joe?
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:15 PM
6 hrs ago

He was separated, she was not. I think she said something like "The heart has its reasons" for her rather disgusting behavior.

flashman13

(851 posts)
27. If you were a regular listener of Olbermann you would know Scarborough is a fake
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:09 PM
10 hrs ago

and always has been. His show is a fake. His whole persona is just an act. It is time to change sides again. He has done so many times in the past. There will be more.

claudette

(4,468 posts)
29. I will
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:14 PM
10 hrs ago

NEVER watch them again. The lowest of hypocrites. I could barely stand Joe anyway. He rambles and rambles. But to kiss Dumpy’s orange butt is too much for me. Makes me want to 🤮

carpetbagger

(4,752 posts)
33. Brezinski's dad must be rolling over in his grave
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:23 PM
10 hrs ago

Scarborough was a Gingrich protege, so no surprise.

Maybe not fully right wing, but certainly they're the couple from the morning show on Don't Look Up.

KatyaR

(3,527 posts)
34. Yeah, what very little regard I had for them
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:24 PM
10 hrs ago

is gone now. How could they do that, especially with the way TFG spoke about Mika?

It's disgusting, all around.

Jarqui

(10,482 posts)
35. Cable is stagnating. Little to no growth since 2008
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:26 PM
10 hrs ago

With the election over: "Boost your ratings/advertising by sucking up to Trump or you're done here"

Trump won't give them the time of day unless they meet his 'conditions'

Like nearly all of Trump's relationships, it isn't going to end well.

Stick a fork in them. They're done but just don't realize it yet.

iluvtennis

(20,834 posts)
36. I was really pissed off when they announce they went to kiss the ring of TSF over the weekend. And I think it is
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:30 PM
10 hrs ago

all in the name of RATINGS. Morning Joe has now lost me - I stopped watching today around 615am EST.

Will only be DVR'ing Nicole Wallace, Lawrence O'Donnell, and Rachel Maddow.

FSogol

(46,464 posts)
40. Did everyone forget they did the same thing when he ran for president the first time? They started
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:44 PM
9 hrs ago

out normalizing him. So sad it took so long for everyone to figure it out.

IcyPeas

(22,601 posts)
43. Are they "journalists" though? Or tv news presenters whose bosses give the orders.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:53 PM
9 hrs ago

Also being on the west coast their show comes on at 3 a.m. so I've never really watched them.

brush

(57,459 posts)
54. Agreed. Their pilgrimage to MAL reveals who they really are.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:14 PM
8 hrs ago

It sure puts most of their regular guests like WAPO's Eugene Robinson, Rev. Al Sharton, Donny Deutsch and other left-of-center regulars in an awkward position as they know the pair went to kiss trump's ass.

We have to see what they will do.

ForgedCrank

(2,186 posts)
60. So now
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:20 PM
6 hrs ago

we are burning down journalists who interview public figures that we don't like?
If someone doesn't do it, how the hell are we supposed to know what he's up to?
I absolutely do not understand what the problem is here.

newdeal2

(957 posts)
61. We will hear about every fart from that guy for the next 4 years
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:22 PM
6 hrs ago

With or without Morning Joe interviewing him.

ForgedCrank

(2,186 posts)
64. I still
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:27 PM
6 hrs ago

don't understand this though. they are supposed to be journalists, not emotional support talking heads. I don't want them telling me what I want to hear, I want them telling me the truth. They are a utility, a tool, not a friend or political ally. At least, that is what they are supposed to be.,

Yavin4

(36,315 posts)
62. Bullshit.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:24 PM
6 hrs ago

One, neither Joe or Mika are journalists. They are editorialists at best. Two, Trump is not some pol that we don't like. He's a fascist authoritarian that threatens all of us. Three, they didn't meet with him to interview him. They met with him to cozy up to him.They flattered him. They didn't challenge him.

If you don't see the problem, maybe this site isn't for you.

DET

(1,679 posts)
67. Another One Bites the Dust
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:35 PM
5 hrs ago

Haven’t watched in a while. I really liked their regular guests (especially Eugene Robinson and Donny Deutsch) and their round table discussions. I have no idea why they thought kissing up to Trump was a good idea, but like others, I’m done.

TheKentuckian

(26,134 posts)
68. If folks are feeling betrayed by Joe and Mika
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:45 PM
5 hrs ago

then they may have some concerning blind spots in the category of ally selection.

All they exist for is to red shift their audience.

Faux pas

(15,360 posts)
71. I don't
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:15 PM
5 hrs ago

care do you? He's always been a pompous ASSHOLE and she has lost all credibility as an empowerer of women way before she became Joe's permanent lapdog. Disgusting

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