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gab13by13

(25,163 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:15 PM 7 hrs ago

Any Garland Defenders Watching Rachel

Witnesses watching Gaetz having sex with the 17 year old, plus the 17 year old testified under oath that Gaetz had sex with her when she was 17.

We are supposed to believe that the witnesses weren’t reliable. Give me a fucking break, Garland is complicit.

CREW is suing to get Garland to turn over the investigation file of Gaetz.

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Any Garland Defenders Watching Rachel (Original Post) gab13by13 7 hrs ago OP
No qazplm135 7 hrs ago #1
IMO he's a republican mole, Joe Biden's worst pick. The reason why trump was never... brush 5 hrs ago #29
His NYS case H2O Man 4 hrs ago #38
True, but for some reason the judge keeps postponing the sentencing. brush 4 hrs ago #42
Definitely. H2O Man 4 hrs ago #43
At this point, even if the judge gives Trump jail time (which is doubtful), the Supreme Court... LudwigPastorius 3 hrs ago #44
Is it a rerun? milestogo 7 hrs ago #2
Yes, IOKIYAR rerun gab13by13 7 hrs ago #3
This message was self-deleted by its author radical noodle 7 hrs ago #4
Agree Gab13by13. MG is complicit. Clouds Passing 7 hrs ago #5
Justice delayed. See how that works? dchill 7 hrs ago #6
Garland Failed Baron2024 6 hrs ago #7
He can be non-partisan when Trump prosecutes him and throws him in jail. hadEnuf 6 hrs ago #10
Most of those BigMin28 6 hrs ago #12
I don't have any inside info but I have to say that dsc 6 hrs ago #8
Better to try BigMin28 6 hrs ago #13
Under age is under age. Bluethroughu 5 hrs ago #22
Felony sex with a minor is not a federal case. speak easy 5 hrs ago #25
Even if it's with a US Congressman? Bluethroughu 5 hrs ago #28
Then apparently CREW made a mistake when it sued DOJ gab13by13 4 hrs ago #30
Sex trafficking of a minor IS a [Federal] felony case. speak easy 4 hrs ago #35
So? It's still a felony and a crime. brush 4 hrs ago #31
If I live long enoughI would expect to see Garland blamed for the coming disaster gordianot 6 hrs ago #9
Exactly my thoughts Dave says 6 hrs ago #16
Exactly my thoughts too gab13by13 4 hrs ago #32
Saving this thread before it's deleted. Sigh usonian 6 hrs ago #11
How in heaven's name is that thread similar to mine? gab13by13 4 hrs ago #34
Apologies if I goofed. usonian 4 hrs ago #41
i might be misrembering... Takket 6 hrs ago #14
He went to prison for sex trafficking among other things, Bluethroughu 5 hrs ago #23
I thought Garland was spineless now I think he's complicit Tribetime 6 hrs ago #15
Garland was compromised the day he bent the knee. Weasel wart. NotHardly 6 hrs ago #17
Not "had sex with", RAPED 0rganism 5 hrs ago #18
Yep. A minor cannot consent to sex either. It is statutory rape even if she agrees that it was ok. kerry-is-my-prez 4 hrs ago #33
Lather, rinse, repeat... Fiendish Thingy 5 hrs ago #19
There is no defense for Merrick Garland not prosecuting gab13by13 4 hrs ago #36
I say in my calm voice. .... Why would ANYONE defend Garland ??? So depressed. Trueblue1968 5 hrs ago #20
But, but Orrin Hatch gave him two thumbs up...🫱🫲 rubbersole 5 hrs ago #24
Joe has Garland's back Kaleva 4 hrs ago #39
Some people transfer their loyalty to Obama and Biden TheKentuckian 5 hrs ago #21
Post removed Post removed 5 hrs ago #26
Me too. gab13by13 4 hrs ago #37
Normalize calling Gaetz a RAPIST for sexually AllyCat 5 hrs ago #27
We don't know if Biden is watching Rachel Kaleva 4 hrs ago #40

qazplm135

(7,492 posts)
1. No
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:17 PM
7 hrs ago

He's just ridiculously conservative and tentative in everything he does.

He's a fine choice pre 16 but a horrible one in the Age of Trump

brush

(57,459 posts)
29. IMO he's a republican mole, Joe Biden's worst pick. The reason why trump was never...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:36 PM
5 hrs ago

jailed. He's gotten away with his many crimes, 34 felonies he was convicted of, the MAL stolen docs case, the Georgia case, J6 case, all will be erased by his AG come Jan. 20, 2025.

Great job, Garland

brush

(57,459 posts)
42. True, but for some reason the judge keeps postponing the sentencing.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:21 AM
4 hrs ago

The pressure on that judge to not move must be tremendous...possible thteats of bodily harm too.

H2O Man

(75,419 posts)
43. Definitely.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:33 AM
4 hrs ago

And remember the maga cult members point fingers of rage at the judge's daughter.

What I suspect is that the sociopath's legal team will get the state convictions before the USSC. And the court has been corrupted.

LudwigPastorius

(10,774 posts)
44. At this point, even if the judge gives Trump jail time (which is doubtful), the Supreme Court...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:55 AM
3 hrs ago

would probably let Trump defer serving his sentence until out of office.

Response to milestogo (Reply #2)

Baron2024

(194 posts)
7. Garland Failed
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:48 PM
6 hrs ago

And now we all have to suffer. Trump should have already been prosecuted and convicted over the January 6th Insurrection. It is squarely Garland's fault. He is a joke, and a bad joke at that.

hadEnuf

(2,689 posts)
10. He can be non-partisan when Trump prosecutes him and throws him in jail.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:07 PM
6 hrs ago

Garland has been a beached whale since taking office. Oh wait, he threw a bunch of sewer trash in jail while the ring leaders regrouped.

Garland is so wrapped up in trying to look non-partisan that he fails to see that the partisan GOP hates his guts too.

BigMin28

(1,446 posts)
12. Most of those
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:23 PM
6 hrs ago

prosecuted were charged with BS charges. Had any other group attacked the Capitol, the charges would have been the most severe. After the bloodbath, of course. You've got to cut the head off the snake to kill it. Garland should have started at the top.

dsc

(52,618 posts)
8. I don't have any inside info but I have to say that
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:50 PM
6 hrs ago

there would be two big problems with the case, that may, or may not, have been insurmountable. One is that the victim was 17 which means that in many states his conduct would be legal (though not in FL). The second problem is that all the witnesses were people who had done illegal acts. I still think a case should have been brought but it was hardly a slam dunk, especially if the jury pool would have been largely his constituents.

Bluethroughu

(5,748 posts)
22. Under age is under age.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:05 PM
5 hrs ago

17 years old is close to 16, close 15, close to...

They were under age of consent. If a Congressman was giving my 17 year old drugs, liquor, money, and sex....I would have done the citizens arrest myself.

gab13by13

(25,163 posts)
30. Then apparently CREW made a mistake when it sued DOJ
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:41 PM
4 hrs ago

to get it to release the investigation file on Gaetz.

Sex trafficking of a minor is a felony case.

speak easy

(10,484 posts)
35. Sex trafficking of a minor IS a [Federal] felony case.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:56 PM
4 hrs ago

Yes it is.

But to establish it you need the testimony of Joel Greenberg, a not so reliable witness.

Joel Greenberg, former tax collector for Seminole County, was accused of stalking a political opponent, public corruption, making fake licenses and scheming to submit false claims for a federal loan.

He pleaded guilty to six federal crimes, including identity theft, stalking, wire fraud and conspiracy to bribe a public official. Prosecutors said he paid at least one girl to have sex with him and other men.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joel-greenberg-sentenced-sex-crimes-freind-matt-gaetz/

gordianot

(15,511 posts)
9. If I live long enoughI would expect to see Garland blamed for the coming disaster
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:58 PM
6 hrs ago

When all is said and done Comey should take the heat for Debacle 1and clearly Garland for debacle number 2.



gab13by13

(25,163 posts)
32. Exactly my thoughts too
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:45 PM
4 hrs ago

of course I blame Garland, he is at the top of my list for TSF being able to run for office.

Also, who else in Trump's inner circle did Garland indict? Some states are trying to prosecute a few, but when the J6 select committee sent criminal referrals to Garland for Mark Meadows and Ken Chesbro, he shit canned them.

gab13by13

(25,163 posts)
34. How in heaven's name is that thread similar to mine?
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:52 PM
4 hrs ago

You certainly did deride my thread so now I ask you politely to tell me what I posted that is not factual?

The ball is in your court, explain to me why my thread should be deleted?

Garland allowed Hunter Biden to be investigated on a bogus Russian hoax perpetrated by Rudy Giuliani. Hunter Biden was prosecuted under Barr and garland for 5 years but druggie, sex trafficker Matt Gaetz was more believable than numerous witnesses, including the victim.

usonian

(13,743 posts)
41. Apologies if I goofed.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:12 AM
4 hrs ago

Uncle Leo defense.

I was referencing a deleted thread, so I was working from memory, which has its flaws.

I *believe* that it included the link to "servants of the mafia" substack. I have no way of vetting that substack post, so I posted the disclaimer on it.

I open links in a new tab, and there was the substack post, with the now-deleted OP in the adjoining tab.

And I concluded that the criticism in the substack OP was beyond DU rules. I COULD BE WRONG.

If the similarity is in calling out Garland, that's what I concluded. I never call posters out. My rules. I might send a DM instead, so no criticism of your OP was intended.

As with all my posts, corrections are welcome. And if I post something that confuses people, I delete it.

I really just wanted to post a link to the substack post in case it was obliterated. And the disclaimer says to "judge it yourself"

I thought that your OP might be deleted for the same reasons, and saved it. Quite the opposite of asking it to be deleted.

And if my post is misconstrued or confusing, I'll gladly delete it. On Hacker News, after a short time, one can't edit or delete a post.

Takket

(22,506 posts)
14. i might be misrembering...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:25 PM
6 hrs ago

but i recall being outraged at the time they did not prosecute and i thought someone on DU said that Gaetz friend (forget his name) was unreliable because he had a ton of legal issues of his own, but that the real problem was the victim refused to testify, and there was no case without her. Not that she was "unreliable". Though I don't know why she would testify to congress but not the court????

Bluethroughu

(5,748 posts)
23. He went to prison for sex trafficking among other things,
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:08 PM
5 hrs ago

Gaetz was said to be doing with him...no gaetz though.

gab13by13

(25,163 posts)
36. There is no defense for Merrick Garland not prosecuting
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:59 PM
4 hrs ago

Matt Gaetz. Greenberg was his partner in sex capades, but his daddy wasn't a judge and when Greenberg pleaded guilty and turned state's evidence on Gaetz he immediately became an unreliable witness, how convenient. There were more witnesses than Greenberg who watched Gaetz rape the 17 year on a gaming table.

You bet it is rinse, lather, and repeat with Garland, it's sickening.

The 17 year old's lawyer was on Rachel tonight, I should get the segment and copy it here but I'm going to bed, good night.

Trueblue1968

(18,091 posts)
20. I say in my calm voice. .... Why would ANYONE defend Garland ??? So depressed.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:54 PM
5 hrs ago

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He could have nailed Trump and evil POS Repukes !!!!!! He could have saved our country.

Joe should have fired garlands slow as molasses do nothing ass.

Kaleva

(38,133 posts)
39. Joe has Garland's back
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:04 AM
4 hrs ago

It doesn't matter what we think of Garland. The only opinion that matters is Biden's.

TheKentuckian

(26,134 posts)
21. Some people transfer their loyalty to Obama and Biden
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:00 PM
5 hrs ago

to him and get all emotional and protective and don't even even see him there.

It is ridiculous!

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