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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMarjorie Taylor Greene demands America gets a divorce.
An outraged Greene (R-GA) on Monday urged a national split from Democratic states whose lawmakers, and voters, have expressed criticism of President-elect Donald Trump.
One minor problem Ms Greene fails to understand is that the blue states financially support the red states. Absent some sort of alimony, theyll be impoverished and without Social Security or Medicare.
Not sure shes thought this through.
mnmoderatedem
(3,842 posts)has she ever thought anything through?
jimfields33
(18,759 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:35 AM - Edit history (1)
I guess the other 32 states will just have to suffer under her deluded mind.
Katcat
(358 posts)18+38=56
jimfields33
(18,759 posts)dchill
(40,446 posts)BOSSHOG
(39,811 posts)That your post is an in-dick-table offense.
TheBlackAdder
(28,900 posts)peregrinus
(160 posts)Im convinced.
keep_left
(2,395 posts)She also loves eliminationist rhetoric, like "we need a second Civil War". She's a real piece of work...and a real piece of shit!
regnaD kciN
(26,588 posts)...than to have to live the rest of your life in the dungeon as your spouse's prisoner. Which is what I'm pretty sure TSF wants.
nini
(16,712 posts)Works for me.
Intractable
(475 posts)Very complicate to pull off, but we may be left with no choice.
A house divided cannot stand. -- Lincoln
Only a fool fights in a burning house. -- Kang, Star Trek, The Day of the Dove
We're on fire. -- Me
The time has come, the wise one said, when we must all decide.
We cannot carry on this way, and so we must divide.
The road before us goes both way, so which one do you choose.
But all will not go well if you refuse. -- The Alan Parsons Project, Upper Me
yardwork
(64,278 posts)Many states aren't really red or blue, they're a mixed bag. There's no state or region of the country where there's unanimous agreement that they're all Republican or all Democratic.
The Democrats in Alabama are just as important as the ones in Massachusetts. There are just fewer of them. Likewise, Republicans in Massachusetts are just as bad as the ones in Alabama; they're just outnumbered.
Intractable
(475 posts)Like everyone else, I have no idea how this will work out. I just know a lot of people are going to suffer until we discover the end game.
Hekate
(94,596 posts)It was terrible. Muslim Indians were driven from places they had lived for centuries, neighbor murdered neighbor, people lost everything in the move.
I am against secession or any other split-up of the USA. Its a fantasy, and trying to make it reality would lead to the bloodbath Steve Bannon lusts for.
Intractable
(475 posts)You know, religion? It's the great unifier. You got Hindus and Muslims.
So, can't live with them, can't live without them?
Of course, it would be for the best if the country stays unified. What if the bloodbath occurs anyway?
TheKentuckian
(26,134 posts)and seems like a receipe for at least two civil wars rather than just one.
Neither the tens of millions of Republicans in California nor the tens of millions of Democrats in Texas are too likely to go quietly into the night.
We also have way too many nukes, we have a responsibility to humanity to defeat the nutjobs in some fashion that doesn't increase chaos to the point that some portion of that arsenal gets out of pocket.
Katcat
(358 posts)This one is a shithole
jfz9580m
(15,459 posts)Thanks !
Greene is an idiot. So is Balaji Srinivasan who wants the same divorce and is a California tech bro of the Vivek Ramaswamy type shilling some sort of fake school (these guys do fit a sort of type):
https://www.wired.com/story/network-school-balaji-srinivasan/
(As an aside I find these tech bro-creeps fascinating. Their worldviews are so lousy and so many of them want to rule the world. We have to sound the alarm about these creeps especially with Musk and Ramaswamy etc out to destroy the govt now. Indeed arguably red parts of blue ca are cradles for some of the worst of these ideas in the last few decades. I posted about that here ( the links in the post not my meandering ) and DUer Hekate said it is worthwhile to keep spreading the word :
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19736813).
People want to reduce life to such reductive patterns. It is not true of course that there are no patterns or that data doesnt tell you stuff.
That argument reminds me of the guy (and sorry but its usually a guy ) who says all nutrition science is bullshit using the anecdote that his grandfather ate steak everyday, drank a six pack, never exercised and lived to be a 100.
Sure, but most people who live like that will lead significantly shorter and unhealthier lives than those who do take care of their health.
But it is similarly reductive to attach salience to a few broad patterns here and there and to eschew more complete models that are rigorous and tested.
Hard to do in discussions as complex as ones related to the state of our connected world, its communication systems, technologys effects and so on :-/.
But these ideas about the blue-red divorce are as common with the jerks of Si Valley as they are on more legitimately frustrated parts of the left. The former arguments make me wary. The latter are frustration I understand.
The former are as simplistic and crass as: wealth good, me wealthy, me good and genius, all else unfit and stupid, me make the world and they should all die . I have a hope that the public at large will first weary of these tech bros and take steps to reign in their shitty tools where they are quite legitimately destructive to democracy and the planet as a whole.
J_William_Ryan
(2,118 posts)Conservatives hate America.
They want to see it destroyed.
Tribetime
(6,339 posts)The Blue states are paying for the red states government aid
0rganism
(24,656 posts)Also, there's the question of tippy purple places like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
And the matter of a bunch of federal resources which would need to be redistributed.
All of which leads me to believe neither she nor those people she's talking to have really thought this through, if they're even capable of thinking at all.
Intractable
(475 posts)I saw it on Amazon years ago. It's currently only on Apple TV.
Essentially, Kentucky invades New York City because they think they can conquer New York because its citizens have very few guns.
Well, they were wrong. Apparently everyone in NY (including the Rabbis) are packing.
As silly as it is, they got the great Dave Bautista to star in it.
Lilithschyld
(30 posts)Talitha
(7,443 posts)I wish she'd superglue her lips together.
regnaD kciN
(26,588 posts)We up here in Washington would be delighted to join with our fellows in Oregon to form the Republic of Cascadia. The first action of which should be to create a mutual support treaty with the California Republic.
Abolishinist
(1,953 posts)to join you!
sakabatou
(43,016 posts)MrWowWow
(373 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:20 PM - Edit history (1)
Or is she just a reichwing meat puppet?
Abolishinist
(1,953 posts)Greene married Perry Greene in 1995 while in college. They have three children. Perry Greene announced in September 2022 that he was filing for divorce and that their marriage was "irretrievably broken". On December 22, 2022, the divorce was finalized.
Her now ex-husband pulled the trigger on the marriage after media reports revealed that the neophyte politician had repeatedly cheated with other men, including polyamorous tantric sex guru Craig Ivey and the manager of the local gym she frequented.
brush
(57,459 posts)post offices, military bases etc that they don't just get to keep for free.
Just cause she just got divorced recently (her infidelity), it's on this silly woman's mind. I wouldn't mind never hearing from her again though.
sakabatou
(43,016 posts)Abolishinist
(1,953 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,572 posts)She's made a career of violating her various "oaths". It's who she is. She hasn't been long in Trump's inner circle because she hasn't been killing pets or raping kids. If you want to be the diamond in Donny's eye, you've got to compete with his anti-social legacy. The worse you are, the higher you rate with Donny.
So what will happen if Gaetz and Noem and the rapist from Fox (Hegseth?) all somehow get legitimately rejected? What's Trump's plan "B"? And who will be the "hard act to follow" the first reject? Will Trump go legit with other picks? And if so, who on earth will accept his nomination?
Efilroft Sul
(3,743 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,572 posts)struggle4progress
(120,226 posts)Trust_Reality
(1,879 posts)She sure looks like one of Putin's many operatives in the US.
cstanleytech
(26,978 posts)kevinore
(47 posts)...let them go their own way. Just keep the nukes and other WMDs away from them.
Cha
(305,302 posts)of the DIVORSE, Ya Sick Fuck.
"Criticize" the MF".. Yeah Fuck you too, Assface!
ribrepin
(1,800 posts)duncang
(3,580 posts)Even Texas was closer in 2020 than most people think. This time there was back sliding though. 42% voted for VP Harris. What happens to them/me? Will there be purity checks?
tornado34jh
(1,290 posts)All right then, pull all funding for red states, pull the military out of those states, revoke aid to these states including Social Security and Medicare, and see how they fare. Oh by the way, if a major disaster like a tornado, hurricane, or whatever comes, they are on their own. To give examples of how ungrateful they are, when Texas had that big freeze in 2021, guess who was president? That's right, Biden was! When Hurricane Ian in 2022 and Hurricane Helene hit earlier this year, both really deadly hurricanes, who was president? Yep Biden. How about the deadly tornado in December 2021 that hit Kentucky? I mean, I could list several more. But last I checked, did Biden/Harris step up in the face in these disasters? I'm pretty sure they did. A friend of mine in California, a state who they much malign, even went on a two-week trip to North Carolina in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene. This really shows how ungrateful they are. If it were me, I would have said, "All right, you are on your own, don't come crying to us when things get bad you ungrateful fools."
roamer65
(37,146 posts)to stop southern red state MAGAts from northward climate migration.
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