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applegrove

(123,081 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:25 PM 6 hrs ago

An undersea telecommunications cable linking Finland and Germany has been cut for unknown reasons.






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An undersea telecommunications cable linking Finland and Germany has been cut for unknown reasons.

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An undersea telecommunications cable linking Finland and Germany has been cut for unknown reasons. (Original Post) applegrove 6 hrs ago OP
2nd one in two days, the other being Sweden. The latter is projected to take up to 15 days to repair. Silent Type 6 hrs ago #1
Get a HAM Radio MrWowWow 6 hrs ago #2
Yes, was gonna say there are other means of communication, even if not as safe cable. Silent Type 5 hrs ago #5
Yup. It's a simple and powerful safeguard. defacto7 5 hrs ago #6
Russia cuts comm cables, and who has the solution? greenman3610 5 hrs ago #3
Starting a new conspiracy theory.... haele 5 hrs ago #4
A week ago, Putin crony Nikolai Patrushev warned that the US and UK would cut undersea cables Emrys 5 hrs ago #7
Thanks. applegrove 4 hrs ago #8
Very significant NJCher 4 hrs ago #9
What are the best periodicals/websites re: international relations and intelligence? Duncan Grant 4 hrs ago #10

Silent Type

(6,597 posts)
1. 2nd one in two days, the other being Sweden. The latter is projected to take up to 15 days to repair.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:34 PM
6 hrs ago

Read on Reuters.

MrWowWow

(373 posts)
2. Get a HAM Radio
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:41 PM
6 hrs ago

Last edited Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:40 AM - Edit history (3)

Stop depending on the existing communications infrastructure. Unfortunately, one would still need an ISP to get on the Internet with a ham radio. .

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-ChatGPT


Prices:

These are palatable:
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Silent Type

(6,597 posts)
5. Yes, was gonna say there are other means of communication, even if not as safe cable.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:53 PM
5 hrs ago

Used to enjoy listening Ham radio, but only on a cheap receiver with Ham frequencies.

defacto7

(13,607 posts)
6. Yup. It's a simple and powerful safeguard.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:20 PM
5 hrs ago

I think it should be right there in everyone's toolbox should the need arise. As far as the Internet's concerned, it can go out too. It's could be helpful to have a real ham radio and a lot of batteries or some kind of power supply.

haele

(13,518 posts)
4. Starting a new conspiracy theory....
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:46 PM
5 hrs ago

Musk hired people to cut the cables is trying to get the Nordic countries to switch to Starlink.
Only half serious, because this could be a way of probing alternative lines of communication available to Finland and Sweden.

Haele

Emrys

(7,926 posts)
7. A week ago, Putin crony Nikolai Patrushev warned that the US and UK would cut undersea cables
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:27 PM
5 hrs ago
Russia Issues Ominous Warning About Undersea Internet Cables
...
In reporting the comments by Nikolai Patrushev, the Telegram channel Crimean Wind posted, "it would be funny, but such statements often sound like a cover for their own intentions."

When contacted for comment, a British Foreign Office spokesperson told Newsweek on Tuesday: "We are not going to provide a running commentary on Russia's conspiracy theories."

Citing U.S. officials, CNN reported in September that Russia was developing a sabotage unit with submarines and drones to target underwater infrastructure by order of the defense ministry's Main Directorate for Deep-Sea Research (GUGI).
...
Media in Norway have reported concerns at the presence in the last few weeks of the Russian intelligence ship Yantar in international waters alongside its coast near critical seabed infrastructure such as oil and gas pipelines and cables for internet and telecommunications.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-pipeline-gas-patrushev-putin-1984215

Duncan Grant

(8,549 posts)
10. What are the best periodicals/websites re: international relations and intelligence?
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:37 AM
4 hrs ago

I ask for selfish reasons. I don’t trust my cognitive bias. Bellingcat is my go to but I don’t know what I don’t know…

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