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Celerity

(47,233 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:14 PM 5 hrs ago

Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (RI) on Biden's farewell plea: 'Now he tells us'

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5090419-sheldon-whitehouse-joe-biden-farewell-address/

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) said statements in President Biden’s farewell speech came much too late in a Thursday statement, raising question with the commander in chief’s parting remarks.

“Now he tells us. Biden speaks out against dark money, for climate action, and for SCOTUS term limits. I pressed four years for this speech,” Whitehouse posted on social platform X.



“That was a great speech. Had that speech launched the reelection campaign, we’d have won. Had that speech launched his presidency, we’d have saved America. Now we fight on,” he wrote in a subsequent post.

Whitehouse’s comments criticizing Biden emphasize party sentiments after Democrats not only lost the White House but also the majority in the Senate, delivering the GOP a trifecta. Some have criticized Biden for not suspending his presidential campaign early enough, which resulted in a stunted bid for the presidency by Vice President Harris.

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Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (RI) on Biden's farewell plea: 'Now he tells us' (Original Post) Celerity 5 hrs ago OP
I would have liked to have heard this as a steady drumbeat for the last four years. Autumn 5 hrs ago #1
that might have helped. I'll give you that. steady, constant unrelenting msfiddlestix 5 hrs ago #3
Repetition of simple points OrangeJoe 3 hrs ago #15
Political Best Practice Kid Berwyn 4 hrs ago #4
And I would have liked for Dems to have gotten off their asses and voted for Kamala Blue_Tires 4 hrs ago #7
We saw it coming and 1/2 of America betrayed itself. NotHardly 3 hrs ago #12
It would have taken more than a speech. I'm not sure what happened in this election, but that speech wouldn't saved msfiddlestix 5 hrs ago #2
Here's what happened Blue_Tires 3 hrs ago #11
Fair point, and apparently true. it is still hard to take in. msfiddlestix 3 hrs ago #18
Post removed Post removed 4 hrs ago #5
He is correct malaise 4 hrs ago #6
True, but his timing is utter shit... Sheldon is being petty here. Blue_Tires 4 hrs ago #9
Why? N/t malaise 4 hrs ago #10
Easy to be armchair quarterback newdeal2 4 hrs ago #8
Why now Sheldon......you were an up and comer......now?? NOT SO MUCH. a kennedy 3 hrs ago #13
What exactly did he need to hear ? Isn't he a senator ? JI7 3 hrs ago #14
I appreciate Whitehouse but those comments are bullshit IMO. NoMoreRepugs 3 hrs ago #16
Bernie's been giving this speech for years but it's been too far left for our Party. jalan48 3 hrs ago #17
Bernie should've considered winning thebigidea 2 hrs ago #19

OrangeJoe

(446 posts)
15. Repetition of simple points
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:29 PM
3 hrs ago

The Republicans are so much better at dumbing down complex problems, personalizing them and repeating them ad nauseam.

Blue_Tires

(57,396 posts)
7. And I would have liked for Dems to have gotten off their asses and voted for Kamala
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:14 PM
4 hrs ago

They didn't need this speech just to know what was at stake...

msfiddlestix

(7,924 posts)
2. It would have taken more than a speech. I'm not sure what happened in this election, but that speech wouldn't saved
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 06:56 PM
5 hrs ago

it for us, If "mind your own damn business" and pointing to the SCOTUS as a direct threat to Women's rights wasn't enough, what the fuck would it have been?
Dark money has been a thing just like all the rest.

Something happened, in this election and it was dark forces. I just can't point to exactly what.
It's hard to believe the enthusiasm we saw at the rallies didn't translate to the ballot box.
One things for damn, sure, it isn't just here. Democracy is taking a giant hit in favor of authoritarianism worldwide, and that my friends should be the focus of alarm.
What happened here, is happening elsewhere.






Blue_Tires

(57,396 posts)
11. Here's what happened
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:08 PM
3 hrs ago

Too many Dems and moderates couldn't bring themselves to vote for the best qualified black woman over the worst qualified white man. Qualifications for office no longer matter, and the so-called "issues" no longer matter. What people and the media want is circus entertainment...

msfiddlestix

(7,924 posts)
18. Fair point, and apparently true. it is still hard to take in.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:50 PM
3 hrs ago

It's easy for me to say this now, after the fact. But I will.

Back in 2020 when Biden chose Harris as running mate, I kinda freaked out a little bit.

First I'm a Californian, and I remember her as our Attorney General. I was pleased when she ran for the Senate. I felt that was the office for her, that was the seat Californians and the Democratic Party needed her to hold. When Biden chose Harris, my heart sank a little because of the racist hell that Obama's had endured, though he was able to withstand it and come out with a second term victory, still it was shaky to me. I did not have confidence that we "overcame" race or gender for that position.
But we won, Biden Harris ticket won. Ok. Looks like I read the country wrong.

But then, J6 happened. And then Biden took office, and the virus was a mighty big problem.
But J6 and the entire circus maggat cult shit show with all of these confederate white supremacists lunatics running half of the Senate and Congress, and Biden is taking office at a very senior age, and I'm wondering, guessing if and when Biden is no longer able to hold command, Harris will have to take over, and will she be able to take the second term. Who might be running against her, I'm thinking a woman. Not just any woman, but a white christo fascists Nazi woman. There's a few.
But then the J6 committee hearings were holding court, and there was Liz Cheney presenting herself to the world like a brilliant state person. She could toss her hat in the ring as an Independent and win over any dumbass GOP , and probably beat Harris, because she has much better political chops. more experience etc.
Bottom line I did not feel Harris could win over moderate white women. UNTIL the rallies, the debates. I thought she was outstanding. How in the hell could she lose, I was sure she had it.
I was also eating crow for ever thinking she would not be able to pull off a victory obviously I was wrong cuz look at the money, look at the rallies.

My initial instinct in 2020 was correct, but it never included the prospect of TSF being her opponent.










Response to Celerity (Original post)

Blue_Tires

(57,396 posts)
9. True, but his timing is utter shit... Sheldon is being petty here.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:19 PM
4 hrs ago

And have I missed something or did somebody steal Whitehouse's ability to speak? I don't recall any firebrand red-meat-for-the-base speeches from him lately...

But let's be honest here -- When given the choice, most Dems would MUCH rather bludgeon fellow Dems than set their sights on King Donnie and his cult who are about to embark on their Worldwide Revenge Tour. Punching down is so much easier and it's what everyone expects from us at this point.

newdeal2

(1,231 posts)
8. Easy to be armchair quarterback
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 07:18 PM
4 hrs ago

Why doesn’t he take any action or responsibility?

I’ve definitely heard Biden talk about these issues in the past. Where’s the rest of the party? What was the thin majority going to do about these issues especially with Manchin and Sinema?

a kennedy

(32,514 posts)
13. Why now Sheldon......you were an up and comer......now?? NOT SO MUCH.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:15 PM
3 hrs ago

Belittle POTUS Joe Biden……. now when he’s got what….. 2 DAYS LEFT. TWO, 2, TWO, 2, TWO.

JI7

(91,063 posts)
14. What exactly did he need to hear ? Isn't he a senator ?
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:19 PM
3 hrs ago

And the only thing that would have happened is the right wing and far left trash calling him a hypocrite and attacking him for raising money.

jalan48

(14,579 posts)
17. Bernie's been giving this speech for years but it's been too far left for our Party.
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:45 PM
3 hrs ago

Maybe we’re finally waking up when it’s too late.

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