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Fear and Loathing: Closer to the Edge
This isnt just reckless governance. Its cruelty wrapped in a spreadsheet a war on Americas elderly, waged by a billionaire with a god complex and a president too lazy to learn the facts.
THE LIE THAT STARTED IT ALL
In his recent speech to Congress, Trump stood before the nation and claimed that millions of dead people were still in the Social Security system, draining taxpayer dollars with fraudulent checks. He said there were 4.7 million people aged 100 to 109 still on the rolls. He claimed 3.6 million people over the age of 110 were receiving benefits. By the time he suggested nearly 3.5 million people aged 140 to 149 were cashing Social Security checks, it sounded less like a speech and more like a fevered rant from a man who still believes windmills cause cancer.
The numbers werent just wrong they were laughably impossible. The SSAs own data shows that only about 44,000 records with unverifiable birthdates are still linked to active benefits. The agency has long had automated systems in place that suspend payments for anyone listed as 115 or older unless they actively prove theyre alive. Trumps wild claims about centenarians on the take werent just exaggerated they were fantasy.
But the truth didnt matter. Trumps lie wasnt meant to inform. It was meant to create panic to convince Americans that Social Security is a bloated, broken program riddled with fraud. Once that lie took root, the rest of his plan could unfold.
THE SABOTAGE STRATEGY: BREAK IT FROM THE INSIDE
Instead of openly cutting Social Security a move that would spark public outrage Trump and Musk are poisoning the system from within. Theyre not slashing benefits; theyre engineering a bureaucratic hellscape designed to exhaust, confuse, and frustrate people out of claiming what theyve earned.
The Social Security Administration is in the process of closing 47 field offices across the country. While not all have shuttered yet, several locations are already gone, and more closures are planned in the coming months. At the same time, the SSA is bleeding staff, with 7,000 employees cut from its workforce the largest reduction in years. These closures and cuts are choking off access to in-person services when seniors need them most.
Meanwhile, the administration has introduced a new rule requiring seniors to verify their identities in person if they cant use the SSAs glitchy online system. For those in rural areas, this means driving hours to reach a field office assuming they can even find one thats still open. And when they arrive, theyre often met with overwhelmed staff and hours-long waits.
For many seniors, this new system is impossible to navigate. The online portal is a minefield for those unfamiliar with technology. The remaining offices are overloaded and chaotic. Seniors with mobility issues, vision problems, or cognitive decline are being pushed into a bureaucratic maze designed to wear them down.
The game is obvious. Trumps administration isnt fixing Social Security theyre turning it into a series of locked doors and dead ends. The plan is to frustrate people into giving up. The more seniors they force off the rolls, the more Trump and Musk can pretend theyve fixed the system.
WHO GETS HURT?
The victims are the people who can least afford to lose a dime the elderly, the disabled, and those living in isolated areas where Social Security offices are disappearing. For these people, a delayed check isnt just an inconvenience its the difference between eating or going hungry. Its missing medication. Its losing your home.
Picture a retired veteran in West Virginia driving two hours down winding mountain roads just to find his local SSA office shuttered. Picture an 88-year-old widow in rural Texas standing in line for six hours only to be told, Come back tomorrow. Picture seniors with no access to the internet being told they must navigate a glitch-ridden online portal or risk losing their only source of income.
MUSKS OBSESSION WITH KILLING SOCIAL SECURITY
Elon Musks fingerprints are all over this mess. As head of Trumps so-called Department of Government Efficiency, Musk has spent months openly attacking Social Security, calling it a Ponzi scheme and a failed experiment. Instead of strengthening the program, Musk has worked to dismantle it piece by piece.
Hes slashed staffing levels to ensure field offices are overwhelmed. Hes pushed for tighter deadlines that punish seniors who miss appointments. And hes expanded the SSAs reliance on an online system thats notoriously unreliable particularly for older Americans unfamiliar with technology.
Musks goal isnt reform its attrition. Hes betting that if the system is frustrating enough, vulnerable people will stop trying. The fewer seniors who manage to navigate this bureaucratic minefield, the more Musk and Trump can pretend theyve saved Social Security dollars.
Its not just sabotage its theft.
TRUMPS BROKEN PROMISES
While Musk tears Social Security apart from the inside, Trump has betrayed the very voters he claimed to protect. During his campaign, Trump promised to end taxes on Social Security benefits a flashy pledge designed to win over retirees. That promise never materialized. No legislation was introduced. No serious effort was made. Instead, Trumps administration has doubled down on sabotaging the system in ways that hurt the people who rely on it most.
Seniors arent getting a tax break. Theyre getting a gauntlet of obstacles designed to starve them out. And when those seniors fall behind on their bills when they cant pay rent, cant buy groceries, or lose access to medication Musk and Trump will shrug and blame fraud.
THE REAL FRAUD
There is no crisis of fraudulent payments. There are no millions of ghost seniors siphoning money from the system. The only fraud here is Trumps lie a calculated deception designed to justify ripping Social Security apart.
This is cruelty disguised as reform. This is theft disguised as efficiency. This is Trump and Musk working hand-in-hand to cheat Americas elderly out of the security they earned. They arent fixing Social Security theyre rigging the game so fewer people win.
And if they get away with this, the consequences will be catastrophic. Seniors will go broke. Entire families will be pushed into poverty all so Trump and Musk can pat themselves on the back for saving taxpayer dollars.
This isnt just bad policy. Its sabotage. Its deliberate. Its unforgivable.
And no one should let them get away with it.

BoRaGard
(4,654 posts)"Gimmee, gimmee, gimmee." - G.O.P. ClawBackers
calimary
(85,586 posts)Its really Grand for Grand Old Party but theres nothing grand about their small minds.
Otto_Harper
(819 posts)calimary
(85,586 posts)It works perfectly!
Who says these jerks arent inspiring?
Otto_Harper
(819 posts)
calimary
(85,586 posts)Agents of Death.
Seinan Sensei
(919 posts)Aaaaauuuuuugggghhhhhh !!!
elocs
(23,823 posts)The Wizard
(13,107 posts)when the gold reserve mysteriously disappears and we get put on the Trump Crypto standard. It will be the biggest robbery in the history of the world. The ultimate goal is two tiered system of lords and serfs with an abundance of cheap labor.
A historical reminder of Paris, July 14, 1789 could be just what the oligarchs need.
Wage slaves are still slaves.
Minority rule usually ends poorly for the corrupt oppressors.
Bernardo de La Paz
(53,633 posts)Martin Eden
(14,056 posts)Democratic leaders have to get this message across.
dchill
(41,748 posts)Because I wonder if they do.
gab13by13
(27,298 posts)giving Krasnov what he wanted, the CR, will protect Social Security. Maybe down the road we will get another chance to make a stand? Maybe not?
Town Halls have always been the answer and Schumer/Jeffries should be demanding that every Congressional Dem do them regularly.
We need more Bernie/AOC's. It is up to us, the people, to throw out the billionaires. There isn't going to be a savior who swoops in to save us.
Oh and donate or join Indivisible, it is behind many of the town halls and protests that you see on TV.
SheltieLover
(65,592 posts)
JCMach1
(28,513 posts)Part of what FB is clogged with.
bfoxmatt
(9 posts)Why do you say that?
JCMach1
(28,513 posts)Here is the report: This text exhibits several signs that suggest it was likely generated, at least in part, by AI:
* Overly dramatic and hyperbolic language: Phrases like "cruelty wrapped in a spreadsheet," "war on America's elderly," "fevered rant," "bureaucratic hellscape," and "Ponzi scheme" are excessively dramatic. While human writers can be passionate, AI often defaults to strong, sometimes over-the-top, language to create an impact.
* Repetitive patterns and phrasing: The text frequently repeats phrases like "sabotage strategy," "break it from the inside," and "glitch-ridden online portal." AI tends to rely on patterns and can sometimes overemphasize certain phrases.
* Simplistic and polarized portrayals: The characterizations of Trump and Musk are extremely negative and one-dimensional. The text presents them as cartoonish villains, lacking any nuance. AI often struggles with complex character portrayals and tends to rely on simplified, polarized descriptions.
* Exaggerated statistics and claims: While the text claims to present factual information, some of the statistics (e.g., millions of people over 110 receiving benefits) are presented in a way that is designed to create shock value, and are easily disproven. The combination of shock value and innacurate statistics is a red flag.
* Emotional manipulation: The text heavily relies on emotional appeals, particularly fear and outrage. It paints vivid, emotionally charged scenarios of elderly people suffering, aiming to evoke a strong emotional response. AI is often programmed to use emotional language to engage readers.
* Lack of specific, verifiable details: While the text mentions specific actions (e.g., closing field offices, cutting staff), it lacks specific, verifiable details like exact dates, locations, or sources. A human writer would likely include more concrete evidence to support their claims.
* The combination of very strong emotive language, with the lack of cited sources. A human, when writing with such strong emotional language, will often cite sources to back up their statements.
In summary, the text's excessive drama, repetitive phrasing, simplistic portrayals, and emotional manipulation strongly suggest AI involvement.
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Not disagreeing with the sentiment, or argument... Just end of the day there should be an open debate on DU on whether we include AI generated content.
SpankMe
(3,416 posts)The source of the OP is a Facebook page called Fear and Loathing: Closer to the Edge. It's at https://www.facebook.com/FearAndLoathingCloserToTheEdge. The account itself feels bot-like. The owner/author is quite anonymous. I wasn't able to look through it very much because I don't have a Facebook account and couldn't log in.
On an unrelated note, among the Google results for this query was an article titled: "Bride found dead on toilet after cruel murder on honeymoon".
JCMach1
(28,513 posts)Might even be able to identify the AI.
OP seriously not dissing you!
But yeah, DU will need to give some thought💭,
Kind of how we took time to consider X. Com content.
moonbeam23
(389 posts)who the fuck wrote it. It is a brilliant and truthful synopsis
RandomNumbers
(18,478 posts)I was favorable to your position. (I only wish I had seen some evidence that AI could write this well, when I presented MS Copilot some programming problems, just to see what it could do. I haven't been bothered recently.)
But you claim as evidence of being AI-generated:
BUT WAIT. Here is the context in the post that you are blaming for "innacurate (sic) statistics":
The numbers werent just wrong they were laughably impossible. The SSAs own data shows that only about 44,000 records with unverifiable birthdates are still linked to active benefits. The agency has long had automated systems in place that suspend payments for anyone listed as 115 or older unless they actively prove theyre alive. Trumps wild claims about centenarians on the take werent just exaggerated they were fantasy.
The piece is not making any assertion about "millions of people over 110 receiving benefits" - it is asserting that TRUMP stated that, and that it was FALSE.
While I agree with many of your points, you missed on this one.
What I would REALLY like to see on posts like the OP (preferably from the original writer, but alternatively, crowd-sourced by DU members) is citations. Like, link to the speech where Trump stated those things. (I bet if we search DU we could even find references to that speech right here.) Another one from the OP: "The Social Security Administration is in the process of closing 47 field offices across the country. " I'm pretty sure that's true, but wouldn't it be great if we linked to the factual corroboration of that? (sort of like Wikipedia).
I see more problems with the paragraph that begins "For many seniors, this new system is impossible to navigate. The online portal is a minefield for those unfamiliar with technology." While I sense that that is probably true - it is rather subjective and it would be nice to point to a survey or SOMETHING that backs up the statement, and the following statements that are similarly problematic.
dpibel
(3,555 posts)I'm guessing you ran this text through one of the many available AI detector machines. Which are, after all, a form of AI. This bullet list reads to me as if it were AI generated.
This list contains, in addition to the problem noted in post 33, a number of dubious claims. Close to one dubious claim per bullet point.
Sparkly
(24,547 posts)Quite seriously.
Timeflyer
(3,073 posts)The "Let's Privatize Social Security" operation, step by step:
1. Lie/deny about plans to destroy Social Security,
2. Discredit Soc. Sec. to lower public confidence,
3. Send in Musk DOGE techofascist bro-boys to mess around and damage Soc. Sec. operations internally,
4 Imply that only fraudsters would complain about an interruption/non-arrival of Soc. Sec. benefit checks,
5. tRump can declare a Soc. Sec. emergency, and send in private equity and technofascist bros to "fix" what they broke,
6. Soc. Sec. gets taken over by privatizers, in order to "fix" what they deliberately broke and achieve GOP dreams of destroying Social Security.
IronLionZion
(48,215 posts)Elderly SS recipients have to know that things were better before Elon messed with it.
GiqueCee
(2,042 posts)... summation of Musk's evil scheme.
The wealthy have been attacking Social Security since its inception. They consider ALL money to be THEIR money, and have zero compunction about stealing it from those least able to defend themselves from avaricious bullies, like the psychotically deranged Ketamine addict, Mr. Musk.
WARNING! Do NOT eat the rich! you can contract rabies by consuming infected meat.
erronis
(18,599 posts)The craziness going on around us in the first two months of the second Trump administration makes a lot more sense if you remember that the goal of those currently in power was never simply to change the policies or the personnel of the U.S. government. Their goal is to dismantle the central pillars of the United States of Americagovernment, law, business, education, culture, and so onbecause they believe the very shape of those institutions serves what they call the Left.
LaRaven
(105 posts)IbogaProject
(4,178 posts)It was my biggest lesson in my economics education. Lower income people spend much faster and in ways that multiply through the economy. The wealthy on the other hand can and do spend much slower. The wealthy often also simply shuffle money to another rich person on luxury objects. The difference between a grandma on social security and even a physician is dramatic and then when you get into the top 1% the differences are striking. It becomes physically harder to spend income quickly and completely after the first couple of hundred thousand. I can hear all the excuses why these idiotic economic policies failed to create growth already.
oldmanlynn
(628 posts)babylonsister
(171,935 posts)mwmisses4289
(767 posts)Destroying ss is so the money can go in their pockets. For as at least 40+ years, the gop have eyed tax payer money in any program as their own personal piggy bank, and have resented it going where it is supposed to go.
eShirl
(19,229 posts)Harker
(15,912 posts)Of course he's lying. It's what liars do.
PatrickforB
(15,187 posts)Have 'em mark the spreadsheet 'Social Security' daily.
My Rep unfortunately is Bobo. I called her too. My wife says this may result in getting our taxes audited as a vindictive measure by the administration, but we have to stand up and fight for what is ours.
Because I'm 66 and have paid into Social Security and Medicare paycheck by paycheck by paycheck for forty (FOUR-ZERO) years and now some effing South African Nazi with a God complex wants to STEAL my money? Fuck that.
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malaise
(282,239 posts)Rec
B.See
(4,984 posts)ReRe
(11,457 posts)yellow dahlia
(2,065 posts)They are using propaganda and lies to create an excuse to break Social Security.
I have taken it on as one of my areas of focus. I am spreading the truth on Social Media. (I was going to leave that platform where we connect w/ our "friends", but stayed so I could share info and fact checks.
Social Security is going to be the focus of my signs this week.
I am also trying to organize protests at local Social Security offices. I saw on Rachel's show last night, that others have already started doing so. I think we need to show our appreciation for the Social Security staff. I have found them helpful, in the past.
Skittles
(162,906 posts)as if coroners and funeral directors have nothing to do with it
OldDem1
(8 posts)Of course Musk and Trump want to ruin Social Security.. they employ hundreds if not thousands of people and are therefore required to pay the employers match on the wages those employees earn. It is costing them money. They are that petty.
Aussie105
(6,921 posts)a byproduct of the chaos they are creating, it is the primary objective.
The intended cruelty is the motivating factor. It stems from two very twisted individuals, aided by a swarm of mindless drones who are happy to say 'no problems here, nothing to see, move along please!
There needs to be a special place in Hell for Trump's and Musk's enablers.
elocs
(23,823 posts)and they want to hurt the nations and its people as badly as they can.
They have already succeeded in that the United States will never be the same again.
By their actions, Trump and Musk have alienated the rest of the free world from America and they will not trust us again. We will be a second world nation with nukes with a population that has been beaten down and betrayed.
King_Klonopin
(1,354 posts)Trump is great at taking a kernel of truth and distorting it into a huge lie.
I believe there are people as old as 100 on the SSA roles, but in name only because of a thing called
"survivor benefits" where widows and disabled children continue to receive benefits of a parent or spouse
after he has died.
Trump conveniently leaves out the explanation because it suits his narrative.
dpibel
(3,555 posts)It's not just survivor benefits.
As of 2024, there were about 101,000 people in the US over the age of 100.
King_Klonopin
(1,354 posts)Jack Valentino
(1,701 posts)According to Florida law, anyone there has the right to "stand their ground",
and defend against threats to their lives with "deadly force".
Just sayin'.