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sop

(13,336 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 09:04 AM Friday

'The Signal security lapse was bad. So is what the chat logs actually reveal.'

"As he sized up a U.S. plan to strike Houthi militants in Yemen in March, Vice President JD Vance didn’t think such an aggressive move was a good idea — at least not now. The vice president’s initial comment in the Signal chat that has gotten so much attention this week was that such a strike would be 'a mistake.''...Among other things, he didn’t think the American public would understand why we were doing it and worried that it might cause oil prices to spike. In that message, he wrote:"

"3 percent of US trade runs through the suez. 40 percent of European trade does. There is a real risk that the public doesn’t understand this or why it’s necessary. The strongest reason to do this is, as POTUS said, to send a message. I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. There’s a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices. I am willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself. But there is a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc."

"Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth responded by arguing that the strike wouldn’t even be about the militants the U.S. sought to kill. Instead, it was about signaling American power to the world. Though most of the commentary about the Signal group chat this past week has focused on the accidental inclusion of journalist Jeffrey Goldberg — an outrageous breach of national security protocols — the scandal has also provided us an extraordinary window into Trump’s inner circle’s thinking about foreign policy strategy."

"What it reveals is a cavalier attitude toward new open-ended bombardment campaigns. And it underscores how farcical Trump’s pledge to be president of 'peace' and focus narrowly on American interests has already turned out to be. Trump didn’t need to drop bombs on scores of sites across the poorest country in the Middle East now or with such intensity — and his whole team admitted it."

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/signal-chat-leak-yemen-bomb-attack-vance-rcna198384

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'The Signal security lapse was bad. So is what the chat logs actually reveal.' (Original Post) sop Friday OP
This message was self-deleted by its author BoRaGard Friday #1
We just bombed a country to "send a message", but we could have put it off for a while Wingus Dingus Friday #2
"Lapse" is rich. AmericaUnderSiege Friday #3
What you should see Snoopy 7 Friday #4

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Wingus Dingus

(8,873 posts)
2. We just bombed a country to "send a message", but we could have put it off for a while
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 09:12 AM
Friday

and then bombed them later, when we feel like it, to "send a message" or some other reason. Or no reason at all. Killing people and breaking things, risking American lives, spending tons of money... for shits and giggles.

Snoopy 7

(632 posts)
4. What you should see
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:15 PM
Friday

This report states on of the most dangerous things no one is talking about. The trump administration has been using Signal for their administrations communications and, don't forget trump was caught using a burner phone in his last administration. There needs to be some techies who can find the previous Signal messages. Two MAJOR things being left out is (1) why certain individuals, who had no business being on the message, we making decisions and (2) why wasn't trump on the message or in the "war room" instead he was on his social media ""Our brave Warfighters are right now carrying out aerial attacks on the terrorists' bases, leaders, and missile defenses to protect American shipping, air, and naval assets, and to restore Navigational Freedom," Trump said in a social media post.- NPR 3-15-2025

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