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Swede

(35,900 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:26 AM Mar 29

Liver damage from high doses if vitamin A, some of it irreversable showing up in kids in Texas.

RFK Jr must be proud.

“It’s coming out of the health and wellness … influencer industry that downplays the importance of vaccines and tries to promote various spectacular cures like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine or vitamin A,” Hotez added.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2025-03-28/measles-outbreak-leads-to-dangerous-vitamin-a-toxicity

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Liver damage from high doses if vitamin A, some of it irreversable showing up in kids in Texas. (Original Post) Swede Mar 29 OP
And I am going to say Horse with no Name Mar 29 #1
And make the children pay for the sins of their parents? No. Just no. You're right. What you said is awful. chia Mar 29 #4
It is realistic Horse with no Name Mar 29 #6
Maybe better to remove them Mountainguy Mar 29 #11
I would be okay with that. N/t Horse with no Name Mar 29 #13
They already deny organs to people who refuse to vaccinate. Gore1FL Mar 29 #8
To me, one of the worst things about the misuse of a vital nutrient... Hugin Mar 29 #2
But none of RFK jr's kids have it. How can that be? GreenWave Mar 29 #3
Nothing at the link suggests the liver damage they are seeing is irreversible Ms. Toad Mar 29 #5
The liver can be very resilient Emrys Mar 29 #7
Texas hospital treating children with vitamin A toxicity struggle4progress Mar 29 #9
Medical disinformation spreads alongside measles outbreak struggle4progress Mar 29 #10
Most vitamins are water soluble TexasBushwhacker Mar 29 #12
The others are vitamins D, E, and K. n/t Hugin Mar 29 #14
Yup. You can OD on some minerals too TexasBushwhacker Mar 29 #15

Horse with no Name

(34,157 posts)
1. And I am going to say
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:30 AM
Mar 29

That none of these children should be allowed to get a new liver. I know this is awful but these parents will not safeguard a new organ.

chia

(2,530 posts)
4. And make the children pay for the sins of their parents? No. Just no. You're right. What you said is awful.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:19 AM
Mar 29

Horse with no Name

(34,157 posts)
6. It is realistic
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:31 AM
Mar 29

These parents will not do vaccines and have already shown a propensity to follow woo woo science.
Organs are rare. Pediatric organs are even more rare. They need to go to someone whose parents believe in science and will do everything in their power to caretake them. They wouldn’t even care take their children’s own organs. They will not caretake the organs of another child whose parents want to give someone else a chance.

Gore1FL

(22,377 posts)
8. They already deny organs to people who refuse to vaccinate.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 11:49 AM
Mar 29

There is a finite number available with more demand than supply.

Hugin

(36,013 posts)
2. To me, one of the worst things about the misuse of a vital nutrient...
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 08:03 AM
Mar 29

Is that “vitamin A” is a vital nutrient. Nobody needs ivermectin and few need hydroxychloroquine.

We all need Vitamin A and it’s vilification is going to have lasting negative effects.

Tequila Bob throws it out there in one form. Yet, there are at least two that I am aware of and humans need some of both. The bottom line is that the only thing Vitamin A “cures” is the malnutrition of not having enough Vitamin A.

More here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A

Ms. Toad

(36,548 posts)
5. Nothing at the link suggests the liver damage they are seeing is irreversible
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 10:26 AM
Mar 29

It can be, with chronic overconsumption of vitamin A (a period of 1-8 years). But the linked story (and stories the story linked to) don't suggest that is what they are seeing now in kids in Texas.

Emrys

(8,557 posts)
7. The liver can be very resilient
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 11:43 AM
Mar 29

It's an unusual organ that can recover from severe abuse and in some cases regenerate. But who wants to toss that dice unless they have to?

An unnecessary setback at an early age can store up trouble for the future, especially if there are comorbidities. And obviously a lot depends on access to decent lifestyle and healthcare.

struggle4progress

(122,576 posts)
9. Texas hospital treating children with vitamin A toxicity
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 01:28 PM
Mar 29

(NewsNation) — Children in West Texas are being treated for toxic levels of vitamin A amid misinformation spreading about its ability to treat measles.

Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock confirmed to Texas Public Radio that it admitted fewer than 10 pediatric patients who were all initially hospitalized because of measles complications and now have elevated levels of vitamin A. The outlet reports that this is resulting in “abnormal liver function.”

Taking too much vitamin A can “pose various adverse effects, disrupting the body’s equilibrium and overall well-being,” the National Institutes of Health states ...

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/texas-hospital-children-vitamin-a-toxicity-reports/

struggle4progress

(122,576 posts)
10. Medical disinformation spreads alongside measles outbreak
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 01:30 PM
Mar 29

Texas Public Radio | By David Martin Davies
Published March 27, 2025 at 10:16 PM CDT

Medical disinformation connected to the West Texas measles outbreak has created a new problem. Children are being treated for toxic levels of vitamin A.

Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock confirms it is treating children with severe cases of measles who are also suffering from vitamin A toxicity. According to the hospital, they have admitted fewer than 10 pediatric patients who were all initially hospitalized due to measles complications but have elevated levels of vitamin A that is resulting in abnormal liver function.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. directed the CDC to update its measles guidance to promote the use of vitamin A.

Kennedy, who has a history of spreading misinformation about vaccines, recommended in an article published March 2 on FOX News to take vitamin A under the supervision of a physician for those with mild, moderate and severe infections ...

https://www.tpr.org/public-health/2025-03-27/west-texas-children-treated-for-vitamin-a-toxicity-as-medical-disinformation-spreads-alongside-measles-outbreak

TexasBushwhacker

(20,873 posts)
12. Most vitamins are water soluble
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 01:58 PM
Mar 29

and any extra you take isn't stored in your body. It's just excreted in your urine. Vitamin A is fat soluble and any extra you consume is stored in your liver. That's why it can build up to toxic liver. The livers of polar bears and bearded seals are so high in vitamin A that you can die from eating too much of them. The Inuit will eat most of the parts of animals they hunt, but they not to eat the liver of these animals.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,873 posts)
15. Yup. You can OD on some minerals too
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 09:36 PM
Mar 29

Brazil nuts have so much selenium, which builds up in the body, that you really shouldn't eat more than 2 or 3 a day.

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