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struggle4progress

(122,256 posts)
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 01:45 PM Sunday

The vice-president should resign

His foolish foreign trip and the response to the Signal chat leak reflect the irresponsibility of White House team

Sun 30 Mar 2025 01.30 EDT

Not for the first time, JD Vance, America’s outspoken vice-president, has made a public fool of himself. He insisted on visiting Greenland despite unequivocal statements by the territory’s leaders and Denmark’s government that he was not invited and not welcome. Vance’s trip was confined to a remote Arctic base, where he briefly spoke to a few Americans. Plans to make a wider tour and speak to Greenlanders were cancelled – because Greenlanders did not want to speak to him.

Such hostility is entirely understandable, given the repeated, provocative and disrespectful declarations by Vance’s boss, Donald Trump, that the US plans to annex Greenland and may do so illegally and by force. Greenland is a semi-autonomous territory within the kingdom of Denmark. Election results this month showed the vast majority of local people back expanded self-rule or outright independence. They do not want to be Americans.

In a feeble attempt to justify what is, in effect, a Putin-style bid to seize another country’s sovereign territory, Vance claimed Denmark had failed to protect Greenland from Chinese and Russian threats – but did not produce any evidence. He also failed to explain why, if such dangers exist, the US, which like Denmark is a Nato member, has not honoured its legal obligation to develop a “collective capacity to resist armed attack” under the 1951 US-Denmark “Defence of Greenland” treaty.

Trump, too, has been prating about Greenland’s importance for “world peace”. It’s true the Arctic region is seeing increased great power competition, partly because climate change renders it more accessible. Yet Trump, in another echo of Ukraine, appears more motivated by desire to control Greenland’s untapped mineral wealth. As in Gaza and Panama, his main interest is not security and justice but geopolitical, financial and commercial advantage. Insulting plans to enrol Canada as the 51st state reflect another Trump preoccupation: a return to an earlier age of aggressive US territorial expansionism ...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/30/the-observer-view-on-jd-vance-spurned-in-greenland-and-humiliated-at-home-the-vice-president-should-resign

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struggle4progress

(122,256 posts)
1. rump says military force not off the table for Greenland
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 01:48 PM
Sunday

By PHILIP CROWTHER, KIRSTEN GRIESHABER and AAMER MADHANI
Updated 11:35 PM EDT, March 29, 2025

NUUK, Greenland (AP) — The Danish foreign minister on Saturday scolded the Trump administration for its “tone” in criticizing Denmark and Greenland, saying his country is already investing more into Arctic security and remains open to more cooperation with the U.S.

Foreign Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen made the remarks in a video posted to social media after U.S. Vice President JD Vance’s visit to the strategic island. Later Saturday, though, U.S. President Donald Trump maintained an aggressive tone, telling NBC News that “I never take military force off the table” in regards to acquiring Greenland.

“Many accusations and many allegations have been made. And of course we are open to criticism,” Rasmussen said speaking in English. “But let me be completely honest: we do not appreciate the tone in which it is being delivered. This is not how you speak to your close allies. And I still consider Denmark and the United States to be close allies” ...

Trump also said “I don’t care” when asked in the NBC interview what message it would send to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is trying to solidify his hold on Ukrainian territory three years after his invasion ...

https://apnews.com/article/greenland-denmark-vance-visit-us-base-834785773189f2f12ec6b09f8c5a9321

struggle4progress

(122,256 posts)
2. 'We have stood side by side with America for decades'
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 01:49 PM
Sunday

Helle Thorning-Schmidt doesn’t understand all the nasty language.

By David Cohen
03/30/2025 12:47 PM EDT

A former prime minister of Denmark said Sunday she is befuddled by President Donald Trump’s attitude toward her country and its territory of Greenland, given Denmark’s long alliance with the United States.

Speaking on CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS,” former Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt said, “This whole talk about Denmark not being a good ally, that is simply not true. And it is a little bit insulting, to be honest, that we have stood side by side with America for decades” ...

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/30/denmark-greenland-donald-trump-nato-00259659

Walleye

(39,205 posts)
3. As far as the rest of the world is concerned, it's the United States fucking up in geopolitics, not just Trump
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 01:57 PM
Sunday

I don’t know if these guys have ever had personal friends of their own or not. But I think losing friends is very very sad.

Marcuse

(8,247 posts)
14. Generally a democracy gets the government it deserves. America is FAFO and we are all on the ride.
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 04:52 PM
Sunday

Polybius

(19,607 posts)
4. Perhaps him and Trump should both resign
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 02:10 PM
Sunday

I'll take my chances with President Johnson. I'd be willing to bet that he'd be an improvement.

Harker

(15,927 posts)
7. I see it as waiting out the republicans.
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 03:29 PM
Sunday

Trumpsky is a nasty hood ornament, but the whole party is corrupted.

Karasu

(854 posts)
11. See Trump's third term talk. Fascists aren't known to leave any other way.
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 04:37 PM
Sunday

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Voting doesn't work when they end up throwing out the rules, as they are openly talking about doing.

Karasu

(854 posts)
10. He was in the fucking Signal chat. EVERYONE in there needs to fucking yesterday.
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 04:24 PM
Sunday

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