Do you think we will have a turning point when people say

[kimbutgar]

Helll no orange dictator ?

And maggots wake up and rebel?

[johnnyfins]

1. No. It will take a major fuck up

With a huge disaster and lots of lives lost.

Or

Economic chaos in everyday american's lives. Huge gas price increases, food increases, etc.

[Diamond_Dog]

5. My NextDoor local site occasionally has posts from MAGATs

They all say we have to wait and give him time, he’s going to make us all rich. Eloon is saving the government money. We may have some pain before everything plays out.

[johnnyfins]

13. This is my answer to the "more time" bs.

And I have said it to magat faces.

HE ALREADY HAD FOUR YEARS!!!

[Diamond_Dog]

17. Thanks! I'll have to remember that.

[johnnyfins]

2. And the real problem is that he

Will never leave the office voluntarily

[efhmc]

3. Perhaps but it willl not be soon enough.

[Voltaire2]

4. even a major prolonged disaster is no guarantee

we simply cannot count on some other group, or some great savior, to turn this around.

The regime will fall when millions of people are willing to risk everything. It will take a general strike, or a massive prolonged economic boycott, or massive prolonged protests, or perhaps all three, to turn this around.

[Cirsium]

6. No

It has not happened in the past - Nazi Germany and the Confederacy are two examples - and it won't happen now. Now, as it was then, they need to be utterly defeated. Now, as it was then, they started it and we are in a fight for our lives.

[bluestarone]

7. Hell, might take world war 3 before

People on THEIR side wake up!!

[sakabatou]

8. It wouldn't surprise me if it were really Gen Z or Alpha who turn the tide

My generation (Millennials) are a bunch of cynics. It feels like all we get is table scraps.
Gen Z sees a possible brighter future. I don't know how they can, but many do.

[Srkdqltr]

9. He is bringing manufacturing back. Old steel mills will reopen and car plants will bloom all over.

Except a few may, but most won't. Companies will stall as he will loose interest and nothing much will change except wages will go down.

[aeromanKC]

10. Not until we hit rock bottom.

And then and only then an intervention can take place.

[FarPoint]

11. I feel the truth of his abuse and intent to be a dictator .....

will begin to surface by mid-summer.... I believe it will have legs....I feel the Supreme Court will start acting more responsible for whatever reason....The issue by Johnson wanting to eliminate Judges has had a negative impact on the Supreme Court to some extent...

European intelligence and Anonymous are going to bring out the voter fraud facts.... I just say buckle up for the summer.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Neither Berlin nor Tokyo surrendered until:

1. Germans were surrounded by American GIs pointing guns at them and their cities buried in ruble.

2. Japan had two atomic bombs dropped on them.

3. How long will it take for the US MAGAs and the psychopath billionaires to give up?

[Mpo4261]

14. Not a chance

The MAGA morons are so brainwashed it would take years and years of deprogramming to get them back to some kind of normalcy. And that may not even work.

[Initech]

15. I was at my next door neighbor's party last night. Some folks are way too far gone.

[taxi]

16. It will be after the fact when they say hell no, no more orange dictator. And nothing will change.

It is too easy for people to be on the right side of history when the worst is over. We would be hard pressed to find anyone who says they supported him. When we get to that point those who supported him will fall into two categories - those who will remain true to the republican party, and those who say both sides are the same. Nothing will change.

[usonian]

18. Looking at history, as some have done above,

It might take a Mike Pence moment, and the best strategy we can take is to relentlessly pound the truth of his betrayal of law, the constitution, the armed forces, government employees, (former) allies and the taxpaying middle class.

I would not expect a mass display of force by any group to bring about change, except by telling truth. I would not expect retaliation by Iran or any victim of his murder by proxy.

Just one of the many who swore to protect and defend the constitution disarming the war that Putin's proxy is waging on America and not taking that oath as a cynical headfake.

Or the South African, to whom his oath of citizenship was indeed a cynical headfake, "when autocrats collide"

My Dad had a cynical saying that two dictators cannot co-exist on the same continent, and he may be proven right on this one continent.

[BlueTsunami2018]

19. No. I don't see any scenario where the cult wakes up.

They will justify anything, support anything. I don’t see anything Piss and his cabal can do that would spark a mass deprogramming among these zombies.

These whackjobs and idiots are just waiting for the order to kill their “enemies.” They aren’t turning for any reason.

[Initech]

20. I was at my next door neighbor's party last night

We have more than a couple pf dyed-in-the-wool Qultists. One guy called Trump our "kick ass president" (same one referred to Biden as "the freak show" last year). Then another one called Kristi Neom "hot" ( ), and then they all preceded to rail on trans women in women's sports. I seriously want them to name one professional female athlete. If not, then they couldn't give a flying fuck about women's sports.

But yes there's some people whose minds will never be changed, even with some Full Metal Jacket style reprogramming.