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jmowreader

(52,051 posts)
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 09:37 PM Sunday

Idaho bans bumper nuts, topless beaches

This is the state's new indecent exposure statute:

https://legislature.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/sessioninfo/2025/legislation/H0270.pdf

18-4116. INDECENT EXPOSURE. (1) Every person is guilty of a misdemeanor if the person who willfully and lewdly, either:

10 (1) (a) Exposes his or her genitals,; exposes developed female breasts, including the areola and nipple; exposes adult male breasts, including the areola and nipple, that have been medically or hormonally altered to appear like developing or developed female breasts; exposes artificial breasts, including the areola and nipple, intended to resemble female breasts; or displays toys or products intended to resemble male or female genitals in any public place, or in any place where there is present another person or persons who are offended thereby; or

18 (2) (b) Procures, counsels, or assists any person so to expose his or her genitals,; to expose developed female breasts, including the areola and nipple; to expose adult male breasts, including the areola and nipple, that have been medically or hormonally altered to appear like developing or developed female breasts; to expose artificial breasts, including the areola and nipple, intended to resemble female breasts; or to display toys or products intended to resemble male or female genitals where there is present another person or persons who are offended thereby is guilty of a misdemeanor.

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Idaho bans bumper nuts, topless beaches (Original Post) jmowreader Sunday OP
is that text from a porn novel? wonder what church is behind this nt msongs Sunday #1
Cliff Notes for the Old Testament? BOSSHOG Sunday #3
I'm just trying to figure out mercuryblues Yesterday #26
Moobs Jerry2144 22 hrs ago #54
The shores of the Idaho beaches dweller Sunday #2
horrifying Wicked Blue Sunday #20
Fascists are so boring Blues Heron Sunday #4
they're going to grab our Truck Nutz! PedroXimenez Sunday #5
Nutz Grabbers,... magicarpet Sunday #13
And don't forget those areolas and nipples! Buns_of_Fire Sunday #6
Did someone tell Melania? travelingthrulife Yesterday #40
So mothers will now be afraid to breastfeed their Ilsa Sunday #7
Breastfeeding is specifically exempted, it's still legal jmowreader Sunday #14
Can't get OB-GYN care anywhere in the state....but by god they banned those damn bumper nuts!!! paleotn Sunday #8
Bumper nuts readily identify the world's real dipshits chicoescuela Sunday #9
What? No truck nutz? RainCaster Sunday #15
A chubby guy with man boobs is ok? Norrrm Sunday #10
"if the person who willfully and lewdly, ..." unblock Sunday #11
It won't matter, because all you need is someone who claims they were offended. Chellee Sunday #12
Because it appears in the introductory part of the sentence, it unambiguously applies. unblock Sunday #18
So because it has to be both willful and lewd, and lewd is in the eye of the beholder Chellee 23 hrs ago #49
breastfeeding and expressing is explicitly exempted. otherwise, yes, "lewdly" would be a hotly debated term unblock 23 hrs ago #50
I'm surprised they classified it as a misdemeanor. Silent Type Sunday #16
I'm willing to bet the lion's share of people with truck nuts are MAGAS DemocratSinceBirth Sunday #17
the lion's share of people in Idaho are MAGAs maxsolomon 22 hrs ago #55
Probably no woman liberated enough to bare her breasts on a public beach Jack Valentino Sunday #19
I feel dirty reading the law, gonna take a shower lmfao! n/t Cheezoholic Sunday #21
When I think of beaches, Idaho does not come to mind Kaleva Sunday #22
No, but we have a few small ones jmowreader Yesterday #36
Glad the Idaho legislators are addressing the most important issues facing the state's citizens. mackdaddy Yesterday #23
The genesis of the bill is pretty outrageous jmowreader 23 hrs ago #48
Seems as though even the strip clubs/topless bars are boring in Idaho. Abolishinist Yesterday #24
That's a different law jmowreader Yesterday #37
So...how many beaches do they have in Idaho? tanyev Yesterday #25
More than you'd think jmowreader Yesterday #38
I did not realize, thx. tanyev Yesterday #46
What are bumper nuts? And why aren't male genitalia described in detail? Srkdqltr Yesterday #27
They're rubber scrotums people hang off their trailer hitches jmowreader Yesterday #39
Oh thanks. My mind went somewhere else Srkdqltr Yesterday #42
I guess that would include WestMichRad Yesterday #28
Didn't they have something better to do? 58Sunliner Yesterday #29
Well...no jmowreader Yesterday #41
Don't let Empty Green or Boobie Boebert near Idaho! UpInArms Yesterday #30
"...or displays toys or products intended to resemble male or female genital..." J_William_Ryan Yesterday #31
They're trying to shut down adult shops Diraven 22 hrs ago #56
Montana's gonna cash in on those mud-truck events wolfie001 Yesterday #32
but what is the punishment for onethatcares Yesterday #33
What's a matter with Idaho? Hit over the head with a judgemental stick. Emile Yesterday #34
Mormons spilling over from Utah Mysterian Yesterday #35
What do you mean, spilling over? jmowreader Yesterday #43
I truly hate bumper nuts. milestogo Yesterday #44
Truck nuts are free speech! Renew Deal Yesterday #45
Idaho is a real shit state. bluestarone Yesterday #47
Neuter your vehicle Marthe48 22 hrs ago #51
I know there are some lakes that might have some decent beaches in Idaho. Tommy Carcetti 22 hrs ago #52
IMHO it's the best state with a fake name. underpants 22 hrs ago #53
Psst. Idaho. No, you da ho! Mother Nature has something to say to you. GreenWave 21 hrs ago #57

BOSSHOG

(41,760 posts)
3. Cliff Notes for the Old Testament?
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 09:44 PM
Sunday

Imagine a group of wrinkled old white guys in a secure room in the state Capitol drafting this legislation.

dweller

(26,169 posts)
2. The shores of the Idaho beaches
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 09:42 PM
Sunday

Will be littered with the loosened bumpers for miles and miles upon the pristine sands ….







✌🏻


Buns_of_Fire

(18,273 posts)
6. And don't forget those areolas and nipples!
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 09:49 PM
Sunday

Geez. Not even the Bible gets that granular. Again and again and again.

Ilsa

(62,647 posts)
7. So mothers will now be afraid to breastfeed their
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 09:54 PM
Sunday

babies in public? Sometimes the nipple or areola is exposed, even accidentally.

Puritan hypocrites!

paleotn

(20,196 posts)
8. Can't get OB-GYN care anywhere in the state....but by god they banned those damn bumper nuts!!!
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 09:55 PM
Sunday


New bumper sticker...sorry Virginia.....Idaho is for fools.

unblock

(54,870 posts)
11. "if the person who willfully and lewdly, ..."
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 10:16 PM
Sunday

Can't say how they'll enforce it, but afaik, topless beaches typically don't involve anyone exposing anything "lewdly".

If it comes to court, a lawyer could certainly argue that the law specifically includes that word to make it clear that non-lewd exposure is not a being banned.

Chellee

(2,242 posts)
12. It won't matter, because all you need is someone who claims they were offended.
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 10:26 PM
Sunday

"...where there is present another person or persons who are offended thereby is guilty of a misdemeanor."

unblock

(54,870 posts)
18. Because it appears in the introductory part of the sentence, it unambiguously applies.
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 10:45 PM
Sunday

If it's not done willfully, it's not a misdemeanor. Full stop,
If it's not done lewdly, it's not a misdemeanor. Full stop.

That's 100% unambiguous from the construction if the sentence.

The word "lewdly" itself is subject to interpretation, but there's doubt that it applies. There would have to get a separate provision or a "notwithstanding the foregoing" part in order to override the earlier restriction that it has to be willfully and lewdly.

Chellee

(2,242 posts)
49. So because it has to be both willful and lewd, and lewd is in the eye of the beholder
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 03:57 PM
23 hrs ago

any reasonably competent attorney should be able to argue that the statute doesn't apply to really anyone except flashers? People who are trying to shock and upset people with their nudity?

So toddlers that are 100% done with wearing their clothes, breastfeeding moms, people just sunbathing on the beach, wardrobe malfunctions, those people would be safe even if there was some deeply offended, overly pious, whack-a-doodle there calling down both the wrath of God, and the Idaho state legislature?



unblock

(54,870 posts)
50. breastfeeding and expressing is explicitly exempted. otherwise, yes, "lewdly" would be a hotly debated term
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:10 PM
23 hrs ago

so in the end, they're not really banning being topless, they're banning certain actions and/or speech while topless.

trials may come down was she just walking or was she moving things suggestively.

maxsolomon

(36,154 posts)
55. the lion's share of people in Idaho are MAGAs
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:25 PM
22 hrs ago

or Momos, or a combination of the 2.

Also: where are these beaches?

Jack Valentino

(1,701 posts)
19. Probably no woman liberated enough to bare her breasts on a public beach
Sun Mar 30, 2025, 10:48 PM
Sunday

would ever move to Idaho in the first place---

and if she was born there, she would have emigrated by now.

Seems like another of those "performative bills" to me...

jmowreader

(52,051 posts)
36. No, but we have a few small ones
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:25 AM
Yesterday

I live near Coeur d’Alene and the beach at Coeur d’Alene Lake is a big tourist attraction. In Sandpoint the same is true for Lake Pend Oreille. You’re only surfing at either one with a wakeboat, but you can do other beach stuff.

mackdaddy

(1,740 posts)
23. Glad the Idaho legislators are addressing the most important issues facing the state's citizens.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 12:37 AM
Yesterday

Bare Bresticules and fake danglers were just corrupting the minds.

jmowreader

(52,051 posts)
48. The genesis of the bill is pretty outrageous
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 03:45 PM
23 hrs ago

A Nampa city councilor named Sebastian Griffin went to Canyon County Pride one year (apparently so he'd have something to harrumph about at the next city council meeting) and saw a topless woman there. He tried to get the police to make her cover up or leave, and the cops told him what she was doing was legal.

jmowreader

(52,051 posts)
37. That's a different law
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:27 AM
Yesterday

It is illegal in Idaho to have a strip club that serves liquor…so, the one strip club up here has a bar next to it. Get juiced in the bar, go next door for the show.

jmowreader

(52,051 posts)
38. More than you'd think
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:31 AM
Yesterday

We have big lakes and rivers here. There are many places along them that have beach-like sand that people use for such.

tanyev

(45,882 posts)
46. I did not realize, thx.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 01:38 PM
Yesterday

Bet there aren’t many days in the year this Texas gal would consider hot enough to be beach-worthy.

Srkdqltr

(8,178 posts)
27. What are bumper nuts? And why aren't male genitalia described in detail?
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:27 AM
Yesterday

Geeze Someone someplace had a good time writing.that.

jmowreader

(52,051 posts)
41. Well...no
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:35 AM
Yesterday

The Idaho legislative session lasts months when they could get everything necessary done in a week. So, once they pass the budget, the tax cut, the bill relaxing gun laws and the anti abortion bill they run out of anything to do and start writing bills like this.

J_William_Ryan

(2,583 posts)
31. "...or displays toys or products intended to resemble male or female genital..."
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:40 AM
Yesterday

Could be a First Amendment violation, freedom of expression.

Otherwise, such is the authoritarian, fascist right.

Diraven

(1,332 posts)
56. They're trying to shut down adult shops
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:55 PM
22 hrs ago

Random people can just walk in, claim they are offended from the sex toy displays, and then get them shut down.

wolfie001

(4,333 posts)
32. Montana's gonna cash in on those mud-truck events
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:47 AM
Yesterday

Big time. Parking lots will be full of Idaho license plates

onethatcares

(16,737 posts)
33. but what is the punishment for
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:54 AM
Yesterday

driving your megamaga coal hauling truck on the "Beaches of Idaho" while flaunting your areolas and nipples?

Funny thing though, I was just talking to a friend the other day and mentioned that I was going to take 2 weeks off in order to drive from Tampa Fl to the topless beaches of Idaho but they only have 3.4 hours of summer and I couldn't figure out which month that might be in so......................scratch that bucket list itme.






jmowreader

(52,051 posts)
43. What do you mean, spilling over?
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:37 AM
Yesterday

When they put in the state line between Idaho and Utah it ran through Mormon country, so we’ve always had Mormons here.

milestogo

(20,060 posts)
44. I truly hate bumper nuts.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 10:39 AM
Yesterday

They are a sign of male insecurity for those who can't afford sports cars.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,816 posts)
52. I know there are some lakes that might have some decent beaches in Idaho.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 04:16 PM
22 hrs ago

But I will admit "beaches" aren't the first thing that came to mind for me regarding Idaho.

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