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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe economy will crash because of Trump. When that happens, will GOP lawmakers change their tune? Is this how it ends?

mcar
(44,351 posts)DEI, woke, illegals, etc.
chicoescuela
(1,928 posts)C_U_L8R
(46,899 posts)But he's yet to prove that he can grow a thing (besides debt). Or that he even has a plan to make things better. He must be seriously demented to spend so much effort to inflict so much pain on so many people.
seriously demented" should be "is seriously demented". He hates everything except for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and power.
FalloutShelter
(13,209 posts)
Blue Full Moon
(1,953 posts)Then they are going to switch our currency to crypto currency.
newdeal2
(2,177 posts)And privatization.
sop
(13,400 posts)newdeal2
(2,177 posts)Johnny2X2X
(22,621 posts)I am a free trade Democrat. I truly believe that free trade is the most effective way to change the world for the better. To see the Free Trade forever Republicans going all in on tariffs is unreal.
They sold people a bill of good over generations, that it was trade that hurt the middle class and not greed. We simply aren't going to bring back a middle class with low skilled low paying manufacturing jobs. It's not going to happen, American companies aren't going to build new factories here building widgets when they can still get widgets abroad cheaper, it's just weasier for them to charge more. And the few factories that do get built will be low paying jobs no one can live off from.
Doodley
(10,663 posts)Johnny2X2X
(22,621 posts)He'll have a parade of CEOs out there saying they're building this or that. But it was all already planned anyway.
Biden is the one who actually brought manufacturing jobs back to the US, and he didn't do it using tariffs.
But regardless, there will be no blue collar renaissance, Unskilled factory jobs making car parts that pay $75K a year with good benefits are never coming back s the norm. Going to college or learning a trade is still the only way people will be in the middle class and that is tenuous now too.
All they're going to do is raise prices on regular people.
andym
(5,926 posts)so few new jobs will result. Look at Figure.AI They already have robots working on auto assembly lines for BMW.
Johnny2X2X
(22,621 posts)No reason for robots to be shaped like humans. There are millions of robots working in factories right now around the world and virtually none are shaped like people. I realize these is happening with BMW and the Figure 2 robots are even more advanced, but I think these events are more to show the technology off than to make a useful robot in a factory setting. These are human shaped for effect, for the image of it, not for usefullness.
I always get a chuckle out of human looking robots, as if human shaped is ideal for assembly for most repetitive tasks. The human form has too much wasted movement. The average autoparts plant right now looks totally different than our image of one from the 1970s or 80s. People no longer work side by side for the most part. There's a lot of distance between workers because of all the automation.
Automation, with dumb robots will still be doing most of the work. AI will come in at running those robots and making decisions to optimize the factory.
andym
(5,926 posts)they can be used on assembly lines already configured for humans. As time goes by, they will be obsolete as you imply.
Johnny2X2X
(22,621 posts)That would be a total waste of AI. Maybe the machines that service the robots doing the assembly could use AI to diagnose and repair them, but there is no need for artificial intelligence to be involved at all in basic tasks like assembly line work.
andym
(5,926 posts)AI could slow assembly down, sped it up, add in backup lines as needed, and have robots perform repairs or remove problems. efficiency gains could be substantial. Now, humans play these key roles, and these is specialized training need for such folks.
Moreover AI vision could help detect problems before they occur and mitigate them.
Bernardo de La Paz
(53,901 posts)Robot welding is well established, but that is very precisely positioned perfectly measured from CAD design data files.
True robotic production will enable much greater flexibility of workflow and diagnosis of hiccups than dedicated super-specialized machinery.
JI7
(91,656 posts)S/V Loner
(9,294 posts)blame Democrats.
travelingthrulife
(1,948 posts)Johonny
(23,172 posts)Within party to where they are now with independents and Democrats.
If his solid wall of 90+ GOP base cracks, then you will see massive opposition. He is an unlikable asshole. He has plenty of in party enemies. But they will stay silent so long as the base lobes him.
wiggs
(8,169 posts)be a reasonable assumption that they've declared war domestically and have aims to declare practical and/or literal war on anyone and any country not allied with the new world order. This could be the beginning of a once-and-for-all effort to re-align everything and it's not getting discussed enough out in the open.
We gave the executive branch and military to what is likely a disordered sociopath...who has quickly done what alleged malignant narcissists would, of course, do...and has pursued the axiom of 'absolute power corrupts absolutely' although it can be said that he started off with a high degree of corruption and accelerated upwards from there.
Yes, things will get bad and I'm not sure it's unintentional. Are we at a crossroads or did we already pass the crossroads some time ago? Can non-cult goprs stop it? Are elections something we can count on to change directions?