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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTeen Vogue: Chuck Schumer Is Pushing Young People Away From the Democratic Party With His Toothless Leadership
In many ways, Im not alone. Since 2019, Ive watched young people across the country make a similar choice turning away from a Democratic Party that once promised a hopey, changey vision but now feels distant, performative, and unwilling to fight for a future we deserve. Just like I reached my breaking point, many other young voters are reaching theirs, disillusioned by a party that claims to represent us, but increasingly fails to reflect our values or earn our trust on key issues.
While theyll tell you that they have the support of young people, Democratic leaders like my former boss are increasingly alienating young voters and progressives alike due to ideological rigidity, inadequate policy responses, and a failure to address the evolving socio-political landscape.
Growing up queer and nonbinary in a small, conservative Connecticut town, I only saw one side of politics American flags on pickup trucks, Republican campaign signs on every lawn, and a deep sense that I didnt belong. For most of my childhood, Democrats were more of an idea than a presence, but that changed during my senior year of high school when marriage equality was legalized. For the first time, I saw a political party advocating for people like me, and I felt a glimmer of trust that maybe, Democrats were on our side. And who was marching at the helm of the Pride Parade that year? Senator Chuck Schumer. To be clear, I believe that Schumer has supported the LGBTQ+ community meaningfully, advocating for marriage equality and supporting landmark Supreme Court cases. But over the years, that support has grown increasingly performative rainbow in appearance but hollow in substance fading into silence when real action is needed most.
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/chuck-schumer-young-people-democratic-party

Lovie777
(17,655 posts)NOT.
Jilly_in_VA
(11,726 posts)this generation will be more liberal/radical than their parents, I suspect. Certainly if my grandkids are any indication they will!
yardwork
(66,041 posts)Especially many of the young men.
Jilly_in_VA
(11,726 posts)They will be. A lot of the young men weren't earlier in the 60s either (some of you aren't old enough to remember that far back, but those of you who are will remember YAF and "Barry's Boys" . Wait until these guys find out there aren't any jobs for them. Think they'll like it? And the young women most certainly are, especially young women of color. They can see which way the pendulum is swinging.
EdmondDantes_
(369 posts)But the manosphere is much more present in the lives of young men than anything in the past due to the internet. I'm into fitness and I had to work really hard to train the social media algorithm to not show me Andrew Tate garbage. And that was without following any of them and following lots of inclusive fitness people. These guys aren't taking the lack of jobs or women willing to date them as a sign they need to change. So far they seem to be reinforcing that it's the fault of immigrants and women.
Tree Lady
(12,324 posts)They are liberal socially, conservative economically, whatever that means.
Two were voting age, one is in 11th grade. The 18yr old voted for Harris in Texas and the 27 yr old didn't vote but at least he was in CA so not a big deal.
My granddaughter is the only liberal but she is close to her union dad, voted Harris in CA, she is 25.
pstokely
(10,782 posts)or lower engaged?
Tree Lady
(12,324 posts)by what her dad says, no news. Grandsons the younger one in high school just listens to parents, older one who voted pays attention online, where I don't know.
JI7
(91,657 posts)Lovie777
(17,655 posts)bullying most of the countries, the draft may be put in place to cover all the hot spots re battles.
Celerity
(48,988 posts)bluestarone
(19,350 posts)They better wake up and smell the coffee. Get us the House and Senate, THEN we can stop these TRAITORS!!
KPN
(16,526 posts)This didnt just start with Schumer or the 2024 election loss.
Started long ago. Meanwhile, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. And here we are today.
I get your point and have adhered albeit sometimes reluctantly to that voting principle myself over the years. But I really do have to ask myself today and others who is it that needs to wake up?
yardwork
(66,041 posts)I'm frustrated by Schumer and Jeffries, but not for the reasons in the column at the link.
The purity tests (you must cal it genocide or you're a murderer!!!) don't do us any good at all.
GoreWon2000
(1,358 posts)being lower than tRump and Musk's poll numbers numbers show that this "Teen Vogue" article is spot on. . People don't favor cowards. The grassroots better understands what's at stake here.
yardwork
(66,041 posts)But when I read the column itself it turns out it was all about not speaking out enough against Israel and not doing enough for trans rights.
There's a LOT more than that to be done. We must speak out in support of everybody's rights. We can't stay in a tiny pure bubble. It's got to be much, much more bold than that.
JI7
(91,657 posts)especially the men who are opposed to transgender rights. And the anti Israel crowd is also very much opposed to transgender rights unlike a Chuck Schumer who does support it.
yardwork
(66,041 posts)They were one of Schumer's speechwriters, and literally all they seem to care about is Palestine and trans rights. Where's the rest of our priorities?
We've got older folks who are out of touch, and when they hire younger folks they get the narrow- minded purity police. No wonder we lost!
W_HAMILTON
(8,837 posts)Spoiler alert: they are the types where nothing is good enough for them.
They admire """fighting""" and constantly losing over achievable gains -- one might call it, I don't know, progress...?
Not as many likes and subscribes from accomplishing what you can, but there are lots waiting for those that demand all or nothing and then blame others -- frequently Democrats -- when they get nothing.
DinahMoeHum
(22,806 posts). . .the Nothing But The Best For The Oppressed syndrome.
GoreWon2000
(1,358 posts)between how McConnell was able to successfully block President Obama's agenda with the same power deficit that Schumer is now dealing with compared to Schumer caving to tRump/Musk radical attack on our government and constitution.
pinkstarburst
(1,677 posts)Trump and his evil minions are horrible. They are leading us in a terrible, evil direction, but they are doing it from a strong man position.
Schumer and Jeffries are projecting weakness. Cowardice. Inability and unwillingness to lead. It's not a purity test so much as the country is sick with worry and desperation and is looking for hope and leadership and strength and these two come up with what? Let's vote with Trump's guys, wear pink, and hold up some paddles.
We need to get rid of them as soon as possible and put some fighters in charge of the House and the Senate. We are going to start hemorrhaging voters from the left off to independent parties, to Bernie type figures who WILL stand up and fight and get loud. The true democratic voices who want to resist are not going to stand behind a Gavin Newsom type and if he is the nominee, they are not going to vote for him. We need to get Schumer and Jeffries out of there before they do further damage. I would love to see Elizabeth Warren in charge of the senate. We've got lots of good choices for the House.
LearnedHand
(4,590 posts)Thank you for articulating that so well.
JI7
(91,657 posts)so maybe it should be her.
Bernie has been in office for decades. What changes has he made ? His own state has a Republican governor.
Maybe Pete Buttigieg who is young and actually did better than expected.
pinkstarburst
(1,677 posts)Warren had 75 pledged delegates.
Klobuchar had 7.
Warren got 2,832,060 votes.
Klobuchar got 540,064.
JI7
(91,657 posts)How do they feel about people running for city council ?
LearnedHand
(4,590 posts)And something the party could learn from:
JI7
(91,657 posts)yardwork
(66,041 posts)That paragraph got tossed in at the last minute, I suspect.
KPN
(16,526 posts)did not do enough on that.
JI7
(91,657 posts)LymphocyteLover
(7,669 posts)most people are hardly aware of Schumer. Most people just aren't paying attention to politics, especially average young people.
This paragraph states it all so clearly.
If our party has no core values (or won't defend or even acknowledge those values) then what's the point?
Republicans have core values. They are twisted and mostly come down to hate for people who aren't white, male, and Christian, but boy howdy they never deviate from their complete devotion to those values. They never compromise on any of it.
Our party's values are not ugly, not hateful, but it seems a whole lot of our elected officials really don't like talking about or defending them. Instead, they shift away from them, tacitly suggesting that, for example, women's rights aren't all THAT important.
They are agreeing with the bully who pulls down their pants, steals their lunch money, and then beats them up after school, because they think, somehow, he will eventually befriend them.
Prairie_Seagull
(4,053 posts)The point needs to be made that in fact SS will be there for them and that the democrats are going to ensure that it is. Then take the bow. Show youth which party has their best interests at heart.
How many other young people are thinking exactly the same thing.
An understandably monumental but simple thing.
IMO
JI7
(91,657 posts)Prairie_Seagull
(4,053 posts)It does include their friends. Both are teachers so not an insignificant group.
JI7
(91,657 posts)All the evidence is there going back decades to show this.
KPN
(16,526 posts)it to me frequently. They clearly are are aware and think about SS and the likelihood it eont exist for them.
SharonClark
(10,453 posts)yardwork
(66,041 posts)Bettie
(18,100 posts)for my DH (4 years older than me) and me.
My kids are planning for us to have to live with them in our later years, since they have zero belief that there will be a social safety net at all after Musk is done with the country.
lees1975
(6,372 posts)I finally got a long response from Senator Durbin, to my letter requesting that he not vote for cloture, and force the Republicans to either do something about the possibility of government shutting down, or let it shut down. It was the same self-justification response we got from Schumer, don't rock the boat, this bad thing is better than that bad thing, and so on.
The Democrats do not have the majority in either house, so the government shutting down, based on a bill not one single Democrat had helped to write, would have all been Congress and Trump's fault. Bold action, Mr. Durbin. You were also opposed to those who wanted to break the filibuster to pack the court when we had the majority and could have done it. We would not be in this mess now if that had been done.
Oopsie Daisy
(5,566 posts)
Ping Tung
(1,971 posts)LymphocyteLover
(7,669 posts)as a massive rightwing social media presence and constant rightwing BS propaganda.
On the bright side people like AOC are drawing in younger people.
True Blue American
(18,471 posts)While Palestenians are dying by the thousands, their lands being taken away.
Before you get angry at me my late Husband was one of the GIs that helped liberate the Concentration Camps and he would agree with me. Under Netanyahu the victims have become the killers.
OldBaldy1701E
(7,545 posts)If you remove the part that says 'I wrote essays', you get where I have been my entire life. I am one of those people who are always 'too progressive, too liberal, too socialist-minded, too this and too that...
But, we have tried everything else and look where we are. Maybe start listening to the more... progressive... voices for a change? And, stop worrying about how much it will cost? (Which, unfortunately, will never happen.)


KPN
(16,526 posts)LearnedHand
(4,590 posts)Me too, and the neoliberal policies the Dems have espoused since Clinton (and maybe earlier) have made it very hard to believe the party actually supports FDR-like big changes that lift up everyone.
Orrex
(64,941 posts)dchill
(41,804 posts)Peering over them is the only option.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,961 posts)While there are great progressive democrats in Congress like Elizabeth Warren, AOC, Jasmine Crockett, etc, theyve been undermined by moderates like Joe Manchin, Kristen Scinema, Abigail Spanberger and others.
Celerity
(48,988 posts)The "Suicide Squad" is taking the party agenda hostage to get tax cuts for the rich
https://theweek.com/politics/1004024/the-democratic-suicide-squad-that-wants-to-destroy-bidens-presidency
President Biden's domestic policy legacy looks likely to be determined largely by two bills that are before Congress. The pandemic rescue package passed back in March was significant, but most of that has already expired or will do so soon. Meanwhile, a $566 billion bipartisan infrastructure bill has passed the Senate and is before the House, and more importantly, a $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill is working its way through the Senate. If passed, these two bills would give Biden the most significant record of domestic accomplishment since Lyndon Johnson. Yet a small handful of conservative Democrats ( who have been dubbed the "Suicide Squad" ) appear bound and determined to blow up Biden's presidency. They threaten that if the House does not immediately pass the bipartisan bill, they will vote against the reconciliation bill with the clear intention of radically scaling it back, if not tanking it altogether. It's a wildly irresponsible betrayal of their own party and president.
Remember, the reason Biden, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, and the rest of the party leadership have settled on a "two-track" strategy of getting both the infrastructure bill and reconciliation through the Senate before passing either through the House is the party's tiny margin of control just three seats in the House and none in the Senate and distrust between the party's left and right wings. In particular, progressives understandably fear that if conservative Democrats get what they want in the bipartisan infrastructure bill, they will refuse to pass the best parts of the reconciliation proposal (which includes sizable health-care reforms, welfare state expansions, climate policy, and other goodies). Hence it is best to iron out all the compromises between the various factions in one big pot of legislation, and then pass it all at the same time, so as to minimize the risk of defections. Led by Rep. Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey, the Suicide Squad presented an argument for their position in a short op-ed at The Washington Post, which bears close examination. They say the reason the infrastructure bill must pass immediately is because America simply can't wait a single moment longer to start repairs, and that it's illegitimate to hold the bill hostage:
Across this country, far too many communities are struggling with crumbling roads and structurally unsound bridges, outrageous congestion, lead-coated pipes and no broadband access. You don't hold up a major priority of the country, and millions of jobs, as some form of leverage. The infrastructure bill is not a political football. [The Washington Post]
The point about time is completely preposterous. State and local governments are already in decent shape in terms of funding for urgent infrastructure repairs and upgrades, thanks to the American Rescue Plan in March which allocated $350 billion to them in part for this purpose. Even if there was a dire need to spend, infrastructure notoriously takes forever to get going you've got to pick projects, draw up plans, do environmental impact studies, and on and on. As Jeff Stein and Michael Laris write at the Post, just $20 billion of the $566 billion in the plan is estimated to be allocated before the end of the 2022 fiscal year, and fully three-quarters after the 2024 election. There is absolutely no reason why this can't wait a couple more months, and even making this argument is evidence of bad faith motives. The squalling about holding infrastructure "hostage," meanwhile, is truly Trumpian hypocrisy. The Suicide Squad are explicitly doing exactly that in the opposite direction. They are taking reconciliation hostage as a form of leverage. They are using Biden's most ambitious proposals which are far more important than the bipartisan bill as a political football.
Russell Berman at The Atlantic actually pointed this out to Gottheimer in a recent interview: "Aren't you doing the same thing? Aren't you holding a hostage yourself in return by holding up the budget resolution and saying you're not going to vote for that until the infrastructure bill passes?" Gottheimer could muster nothing but inept dissembling in response. "No, not at all, because they've announced for months that they're not going to bring infrastructure to the floor. For months, many of my colleagues have said they won't vote for the infrastructure package if they don't get what they want in the reconciliation package," Gottheimer replied. "I've literally said to my colleagues, 'Let's vote on the infrastructure bill, and then, like, 15 minutes later we can start debate on the budget resolution and vote on it the next day.'" So the progressives are despicable hostage-takers because they won't vote on infrastructure before they get what they want, but Gottheimer is not because he'll vote on reconciliation after he gets what he wants. Makes perfect sense: If they just ransom the hostage, he will no longer have a hostage.
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azureblue
(2,376 posts)Reagan started the rot of the GOP. Before Bush came along, US politics was a matter of comity, and cooperation, for the sake of the America people.
Trump changed that into a battle of win at any cost. Chuck comes from the former, and he isn't changing his ways, so Trump and the rotten GOP just roll right over him. And the Dems look spineless, at best.
AOC and her crew are way more confrontational and willing to call out lies and BS face to face. This is what young voters want. They see they have no future, because GOP policies made it that way. They see the Dem old guard stifling AOC and the younger voices in Congress, and they do not like it at all.They are struggling to pay rent, and buying a house is little more than a dream. They know they are being underpaid. They know why health care is a mess. And all they see from Chuck's crew is stern words. Chuck needs to adapt NOW, or step out of the way.
republianmushroom
(19,279 posts)Nails it.
calimary
(85,683 posts)One with a big-sounding title and little else. But something that gets him OUT OF THE WAY.
PRIMARY HIS ASS! BIG TIME! HE'S TOAST.
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JI7
(91,657 posts)ss Biden DID actually do many things and tried to do more which REPUBLICANS blocked.
You say they have good paying jobs in the financial industry. Based in their actions they are happy with how things are and like play the angry betrayed progressive.
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Comrade Citizen
(297 posts)I don't see anyone under 30 volunteering at the local Community Action Agency founded by LBJ's Great Society, or participating in local mutual aid groups; and we reach out to the community with events and messaging.
The youth have to start buying from employee owned businesses and co-ops or at least unionized employers. Make the extra effort to visit a unionized Starbucks or shop Brookshire Bros grocery with 7000 employee owners. Simple concrete actions to actually make a difference locally.
GenThePerservering
(2,728 posts)and many youth here are very active and engaged on a local level. They feel like they'll have no influence in Washington, but they can see the effects on their work locally, and that's not only where it starts, but something they can grasp.
I think adults forget how big and somewhat overwhelming the world can be to youth - they break it down into sureities - I have not forgotten, however.
stillcool
(33,487 posts)you would think someone in that position would have a better idea of what Democrats are up against. Shame that they've come away with so little. Wonder how they feel about their state government, or if they even care
JI7
(91,657 posts)That's why I always ask people about local and state reps and elections and usually get no response.
betsuni
(27,694 posts)What promises did they imagine he made? Thinking... no, wait, FEELING... a president can do everything if they have just the right character, up to this one personality, nothing to do with Congress or actual politics.
People don't know what politics is.
stillcool
(33,487 posts)but to read something written by someone who supposedly worked for a Senator is sad. The truth, some facts, would be so refreshing. I feel like I'm losing brain cells by reading some of this crap.
yardwork
(66,041 posts)She lost. Obama won a second term. Why is this kid using a derogatory term for our 2012 victory?
stillcool
(33,487 posts)It definitely rankled, but didn't know why. Thanks
BlueTsunami2018
(4,266 posts)Because surely, those are the things thatll bring people out in droves.
JI7
(91,657 posts)Theyve always seemed like strange bedfellows to me.
Violet_Crumble
(36,198 posts)Yr floating round this thread telling everyone how young people think, and what they support (always regressive things). You aren't a young person, so how about you provide some evidence to back up your claims?
Also, what is 'anti-israel'? Does it mean any criticism of Israel makes someone anti-israel? It's just that I've never seen you make any criticism of Israel, so I want to make sure what you mean by that term.
Meowmee
(8,214 posts)A dictator who murdered over 1 million. Here we go again, same bs that helped him get into power.
betsuni
(27,694 posts)Ironic that these types accuse Democrats of talking down to people when they're the ones scolding, purity testing, threatening and using that annoying Progressive vs Centrist/Establishment jargon-insult language.
Nixie
(17,580 posts)WorkingClassMan
(13 posts)From independents to staunch Democrats, Schumer has not won over anybody with his schmoozing to Trump.