Tate-Pilled Boys Are a Problem for Schools

[Coventina]

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Jamie’s treatment of Briony reflects an unfortunate reality: Female teachers in Britain have sounded the alarm about incel culture — in 2022, The Guardian reported that 70 percent said they have faced misogyny in schools, evidence that many red-pilled boys feel the need to reassert the power dynamic of male supremacy even to adult women. In 2024, Cosmopolitan U.K. reported on “school in the era of Andrew Tate.”

Stephanie Wescott, a lecturer at the school of education, culture and society at Australia’s Monash University, was a primary-school teacher before she went into academia, and she told me she experienced “sexism, sexual harassment and misogyny just as a daily experience in the classroom,” from teenage boys. She started reading news reports of teachers experiencing “a wave of misogyny” after Tate became popular in Britain and she wanted to see if Australian teachers were dealing with the same problems.

They were. Wescott published her research in 2023, and she said that teachers pointed to the Covid-19 lockdown of 2020-21 as the period of radicalization for a “vocal minority” of their male students; these boys were stuck at home and melting their brains on the internet.

In a qualitative study of 30 teachers from across Australia, Wescott quotes Amanda, who teaches at a public school in Melbourne and describes the dramatic change in one boy during that period. When she met him in Year 7 — the equivalent to seventh grade in the United States, so when he was probably 12 or 13 — he was creative and polite and in a dance troupe. Two years later, Amanda said, he was “writing these disturbingly misogynistic messages, literally saying, ‘No, Andrew Tate is being vilified. He’s in the right.’ I’m like, ‘Who is that boy? Because that’s not the boy that I’ve seen for the last couple of years.’”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/29/opinion/adolescence-misogyny-schools.html

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Young white men are the students who give me the most problems.

[GenThePerservering]

1. My experience has been

in dealing with them that boys that age are some of the stupidest, most gullible creatures on earth. I'm not surprised some of them are following the Chinless Wonder and King of the Incels.

[ScoutHikerDad]

2. What I Saw Happening as a Male High School Teacher in a Red State

I was starting to see some disturbing changes in my high school age student boys, mostly 11th and 12th graders after the pandemic in the four subsequent years before I retired last May because I just couldn't do it anymore. From wanting to "research" stupid conspiracy theories for my required Honors-level research paper and presenation component (denied, obviously-not in MY classroom!) to more and more talk about Rogan, Tate et al in class discussion. This was in the highest honors and AP English classes, mind you. I listened to young women, gay and trans students growing increasingly disturbed by the attitudes of the young men around them, not to mention the growing hostility towards and outright assaults on their rights perpetrated by our ruby red state government. One of the many final straws for me was when my school district banned The Handmaid's Tale with a few pages of Orwellian bureaucratic legalese, by far the favorite book I
taught in AP English for seven years, and which numerous students wrote about successfully on their AP exams. Our boys are in crisis, and I had/ have no idea how to change their hearts and minds.

Incidentally, I was the department head in a massive suburban high school for my last seven years, and I heard some horror stories from my (mostly female) teachers about how some boys felt empowered to disrespect them. And why not, their favorite president openly bragged about sexually assaulting women.

[Coventina]

4. kicking so that more people read your excellent post!!

Welcome to DU!!

[ScoutHikerDad]

6. Thank You!

[maxsolomon]

12. The Manosphere knows how to change their hearts and minds.

As does Conservative media.

[RJ-MacReady]

3. This has become a crisis

The warning signs have been there for a long time but everything actually accelerated after the pandemic. Young white males feel alienated and neglected. It hasn't helped that the far left on social media has been chastising and dismissing young white males for years. The hatesphere is very welcoming to them. We lose this group it's over.

[flvegan]

5. So, what are the consequences for the actions of these "Tate-pilled" boys?

"...she experienced 'sexism, sexual harassment and misogyny just as a daily experience in the classroom,' from teenage boys"

This statement above, by a teacher, drew what consequences for those teenage boys? Or any DUers in this situation? Couple good responses here from folks close to the matter.

Incels idolizing the chinless, Ken-doll smooth nether-regioned Andrew Tate for "male supremacy" should be a study somewhere. But that's another thread for another day.

[MineralMan]

7. Adolescent (and adult) males now seem to feel entitled to all sorts of things.

Sex is just one of them. I remember being that age in the late 1950s and early 1960s. I remember never feeling entitled to any favors from the girls and young women of that time period. In fact, we were all pretty much celibate, but not by choice. The thing was, though, that we didn't expect to have sex with our female peers. Some of us did, after dating the same person for a long time, but if you weren't having sex as a teenager, you were just part of the majority.

Those attitudes have changed, it seems. I'm not exactly sure why, although I'm betting that the universal access to porn on the internet plays a role in those expectations. That was another thing we didn't have in the 50's and 60s. It existed, but we didn't have access to it at all, other than the occasional Playboy magazine, which was pretty mild stuff.

Things have gotten weird for adolescents, it seems to me. Too complicated, by half.

[obamanut2012]

9. It's changed because of teh whole Pick-up artist/negging thing a while back

And now all the red pill/balck pill Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, etc. podcasts.

[MineralMan]

10. So bizarre and destructive!

Nobody at all benefits in any way from that crap.

[obamanut2012]

8. A friend retired a couple years earlier than she was planning because of this

She was a sixth/seventh grade teacher, and she said the disrespect and misogyny directed at her, and female students, was appalling and vile. People keep blaming the pandemic, but she did it did start before that, but the rise of Jordan Peterson and the Tate brothers, and their platforming on Rogan, Youtube, etc. made it much worse.

Her stories are hair raising.

And nope, the Administration did not help at all. Very much, Oh, boys that age are just like this.

[uponit7771]

11. PEOPLE***PLEASE*** look at what your kids are looking at. YouTube floods their recs with red pill bigotry