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angrychair

(10,447 posts)
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:49 PM Monday

Fake News

Feel like we are getting bamboozled. Keep seeing on CNN that "extreme fear" is driving the market but every day it close up hundreds of points. It literally closed up 417 points today.

Keep hearing that "companies are concerned about tariffs" but they keep kissing TSF's ass and making tons of money.

All I see is rich people getting richer and everyone else getting the shaft.

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gab13by13

(27,397 posts)
1. Kabuki Theater
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 06:57 PM
Monday

Based on the Horse and Sparrow economic theory.

When they got the CR through the market knew it was getting 4.7 trillion in tax cuts along with deregulation.

It will take a while to prove that supply side economics is a ruse.

Bernardo de La Paz

(53,901 posts)
2. The Dow is NOT the market. Please get that fundamental fact straight. It is only 30 stocks! It is antiquated, outmoded.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 07:16 PM
Monday

It is only 30 stocks because in 1896 they only had pencil and paper to calculate it. The S&P 500 is a much better indicator.

For some reason we keep on having to say this.

Don't be a sheeple just because it is "one of the most commonly followed equity indices". Leaving the 19th century and joining the 21st century would be a good idea.

The DJIA is one of the oldest and most commonly followed equity indices. It is price-weighted, unlike other common indexes such as the Nasdaq Composite or S&P 500, which use market capitalization.[4][5] The DJIA also contains fewer stocks, which could exhibit higher risk; however, it could be less volatile when the market is rapidly rising or falling due to its components being well-established large-cap companies.[6]

The value of the index can also be calculated as the sum of the stock prices of the companies included in the index, divided by a factor, which is approximately 0.163 as of November 2024. The factor is changed whenever a constituent company undergoes a stock split so that the value of the index is unaffected by the stock split.

First calculated on May 26, 1896,[2] the index is the second-oldest among U.S. market indices, after the Dow Jones Transportation Average. It was created by Charles Dow, co-founder of both The Wall Street Journal and Dow Jones & Company, and named after him and his business associate, statistician Edward Jones.

Bernardo de La Paz

(53,901 posts)
3. The masses & a lot of big investors are thinking this is a bump in an otherwise normal environment
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 07:26 PM
Monday

They are all looking at the standard indicators and running their screeners and dutifully researching the tips they hear or read about in the media.

tRump-Mucus have committed themselves to colossal disruptions in government services, government expenditures, and government hiring at the same time they are upending business with big tariff taxes and overturning the labour market with ICE. Very little of this has crept into the hard data ... so far, nor has the market priced any of it in.

2025 is not a normal year. Way more abnormal than 2020, 2008, or 2001 even.

Boomerproud

(8,697 posts)
4. You are watching and drawing the correct conclusion imwo.
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 08:22 PM
Monday

Total disconnect from what I see. Deliberate?

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