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Coventina

(28,271 posts)
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:19 PM Tuesday

Prosecutors to Seek Death Penalty for Mangione, Bondi Says

Attorney General Pam Bondi announced on Tuesday that she would seek the death penalty of Luigi Mangione, who was charged with murdering the UnitedHealthcare executive Brian Thompson in front of a hotel in midtown Manhattan last December.

Ms. Bondi said her decision came after “careful consideration” and was in line with President Trump’s executive order directing the Justice Department to renew use of the death penalty requests after President Biden declared a moratorium on capital punishment for most federal offenders in 2021.

“Luigi Mangione’s murder of Brian Thompson — an innocent man and father of two young children — was a premeditated, coldblooded assassination that shocked America,” Ms. Bondi said in a statement.

Nicholas Biase, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan, which has been prosecuting Mr. Mangione’s federal case, declined to comment on Tuesday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/01/us/politics/luigi-mangione-death-penalty.html

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"innocent"?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"shocked"?!?!?! Nope, just shocked it hadn't happened sooner.

Yeah, go ahead and give Luigi the DP. You'll make a martyr.
Good luck with that!!!

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Prosecutors to Seek Death Penalty for Mangione, Bondi Says (Original Post) Coventina Tuesday OP
The death penalty is appropriate for first-degree murder Bonx Tuesday #1
I am always and forever against the DP. Coventina Tuesday #3
I'm not sure those who have been wrongly convicted Disaffected Tuesday #5
abolish the death penalty WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #7
The death penalty is revenge, not punishment. flvegan Tuesday #16
The death penalty isn't appropriate for anything, ever. Ocelot II Tuesday #19
Post removed Post removed Tuesday #20
Not me. I always thought killing Thompson was absolutely wrong Ocelot II Tuesday #21
No it's not edhopper Tuesday #24
How about murdering school children? Kingofalldems Tuesday #25
agreed... some things justify it. WarGamer Tuesday #30
The state should NOT have the power to take life. lastlib Tuesday #40
I submit it is inappropriate in all cases. nt Gore1FL Tuesday #45
That should make Brian Thompson feel good. Turbineguy Tuesday #2
He was murdered. He's feeling nothing. Bonx Tuesday #6
He caused deaths and ruined people's lives. Blue Full Moon Tuesday #9
Just like the CEO of just about ANY Corporation right? WarGamer Tuesday #33
They profile as serial killers Blue Full Moon Tuesday #35
Even if ForgedCrank Tuesday #38
Hmm, looks like any first degree murder is potentially subject to the death penalty under federal law unblock Tuesday #4
I thought this was being prosecuted at the state level? Buckeyeblue Tuesday #8
Luigi is facing 11 state charges in NY, including 1st-degree murder and murder as a crime of terrorism. sop Tuesday #10
New York does not have the death penalty. Emile Tuesday #11
It does for certain federal crimes. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #14
The state doesn't. H2O Man Tuesday #39
But, what if it turns out Thompson was "woke"? doubleplusgood Tuesday #12
Making America Bloodthirsty Again Ping Tung Tuesday #13
That's an epitaph for the United States. yardwork Tuesday #15
Basically means you have a right to self defense...but just don't lose your shit. harumph Tuesday #27
no "again" about it -- always has been WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #32
I know a guy who shot and killed his wife Emile Tuesday #17
The jury has to unanimously agree to the imposition of the death penalty. Jim__ Tuesday #18
If the Jury pool walks the streets you might be surprised. WarGamer Tuesday #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems Tuesday #34
So, why help Putin, Pam? Kid Berwyn Tuesday #22
Only because he killed a CEO alarimer Tuesday #23
Yes mvd Tuesday #37
Exactly. If Thompson had been an executive of some obscure company, Ocelot II Tuesday #41
Of course Trump wants this, the kid scares him and those just like him. Passages Tuesday #26
Increasing the chance for jury nullification Arazi Tuesday #28
Luigi and OJ WarGamer Tuesday #29
By all ForgedCrank Tuesday #36
There are a lot of terrible people in prison who have been convicted Ocelot II Tuesday #42
What's your point? ForgedCrank Tuesday #43
My point is that Luigi shouldn't get the death penalty because nobody should. Ocelot II Tuesday #44

Coventina

(28,271 posts)
3. I am always and forever against the DP.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:30 PM
Tuesday

Which is in line with the majority of the world's countries including:

Portugal
Denmark
Luxembourg
Norway
France
Netherlands
Australia
New Zealand
Germany
Ireland
Switzerland
Italy
Spain
Belgium
Poland
UK
Ukraine
Mexico
and literally dozens more that I haven't listed......

flvegan

(64,868 posts)
16. The death penalty is revenge, not punishment.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:59 PM
Tuesday

Punishment is what we should be after. Not revenge.

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #19)

Ocelot II

(123,950 posts)
21. Not me. I always thought killing Thompson was absolutely wrong
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:09 PM
Tuesday

and I said so; and I think killing his killer would also be wrong. State-sanctioned murder is no more excusable than criminal murder.

edhopper

(35,687 posts)
24. No it's not
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:12 PM
Tuesday

Unless you are okay with innocent people being put to death.
Which has happened and will continue to happen.

Bonx

(2,304 posts)
6. He was murdered. He's feeling nothing.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:39 PM
Tuesday

Although he probably did feel agony when shot in the back on the street, gasping for life as it left his body, knowing he was leaving this world and his wife and kids behind.

WarGamer

(16,733 posts)
33. Just like the CEO of just about ANY Corporation right?
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:58 PM
Tuesday

Name a major corporation that hasn't been responsible for death by your definition.

ForgedCrank

(2,592 posts)
38. Even if
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 02:27 PM
Tuesday

one subscribes to that way of thinking, assassinating humans based on our own individual deductions is a sub-human and unjust, not to mention evil.

unblock

(54,905 posts)
4. Hmm, looks like any first degree murder is potentially subject to the death penalty under federal law
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:33 PM
Tuesday

near as I can figure. That said, there's usually an aggravating factor which really isn't present in this case. It made news because the victim was a ceo of a big company, but really, that's it.

Basically, they're just pandering to their core constituency, that famously oppressed and marginalized group: sociopathic billionaires and CEOs.

sop

(13,400 posts)
10. Luigi is facing 11 state charges in NY, including 1st-degree murder and murder as a crime of terrorism.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:50 PM
Tuesday

If convicted of all the state criminal charges in New York he would face a mandatory sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole. Mangione is also facing federal charges for using a firearm to commit murder and interstate stalking resulting in death. These federal charges make him eligible for the death penalty. Good luck finding a jury, Pam.

Ping Tung

(1,971 posts)
13. Making America Bloodthirsty Again
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:54 PM
Tuesday
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

Friedrich Nietzsche

yardwork

(66,041 posts)
15. That's an epitaph for the United States.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:57 PM
Tuesday

We meddled in so many places and always felt so superior. Well, the horrors we enabled across the globe are here now.

harumph

(2,620 posts)
27. Basically means you have a right to self defense...but just don't lose your shit.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:49 PM
Tuesday

But where is the line between legitimate defensive action and actions always prohibited?
Much ink has been spilled over that. War is never symmetrical.

Emile

(33,758 posts)
17. I know a guy who shot and killed his wife
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 12:59 PM
Tuesday

for having an affair. He was out of prison 20 years later.

Jim__

(14,648 posts)
18. The jury has to unanimously agree to the imposition of the death penalty.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:02 PM
Tuesday

That should be hard to get in NYC.

Response to WarGamer (Reply #31)

Kid Berwyn

(19,730 posts)
22. So, why help Putin, Pam?
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:10 PM
Tuesday

Putin premeditatedly tosses people from high-rise balconies, pops polonium into their pants, and placed a patently moronic pinheaded traitor in the Oval Office.

alarimer

(17,071 posts)
23. Only because he killed a CEO
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:10 PM
Tuesday

It should not even be a federal case.

But this grandstanding bullshit is only because the victim was rich and important. And white. This sort of political bullshit is yet another reason to abolish the death penalty.

mvd

(65,609 posts)
37. Yes
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 02:26 PM
Tuesday

I have a lot of reasons I am against and you brought up one of them. The fact that it happened to a corporate CEO added even more for Trump and co.

Ocelot II

(123,950 posts)
41. Exactly. If Thompson had been an executive of some obscure company,
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 03:01 PM
Tuesday

or just some ordinary guy, and he'd been shot by some random criminal, said criminal would be prosecuted in the state court system and given a very long sentence, if not life. The shooter would not be prosecuted in the federal system or face the death penalty if the state didn't have it.

Passages

(2,418 posts)
26. Of course Trump wants this, the kid scares him and those just like him.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:19 PM
Tuesday

Luigi makes a lot of greedy bastards who are intentionally screwing people nervous.

WarGamer

(16,733 posts)
29. Luigi and OJ
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 01:54 PM
Tuesday

Anyone supporting Luigi is worse than those who supported OJ.

The difference is... Luigi was caught on camera.

I'm hoping the maggot fries.

ForgedCrank

(2,592 posts)
36. By all
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 02:22 PM
Tuesday

appearances, he is a cold-blooded, murderous assassin. The death penalty is an appropriate response to such acts.
There is no civilized excuse for condoning such behavior either.

Ocelot II

(123,950 posts)
42. There are a lot of terrible people in prison who have been convicted
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 03:09 PM
Tuesday

of murder, even multiple murders, and they didn't get the death penalty. Jeffrey Dahmer didn't get the death penalty (though he was murdered in prison). The murderer of George Floyd didn't get the death penalty. The right-wing terrorist Anders Breivik murdered 80 people in cold blood and even he didn't get the death penalty (because Norway is a civilized country). State-sanctioned murder is still murder, and objecting to the death penalty in any case is not condoning the original crime.

Ocelot II

(123,950 posts)
44. My point is that Luigi shouldn't get the death penalty because nobody should.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 03:31 PM
Tuesday

I do not condone in any respect what he did.

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