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a right wing koch backed orginization just sued to stop the tariffs (Original Post) moonshinegnomie 18 hrs ago OP
Good heavens--the Koch family ('think the bros are no longer) is doing something "good?" hlthe2b 18 hrs ago #1
These are strange times indeed. ananda 18 hrs ago #2
not only them but Leonard Leo too moonshinegnomie 18 hrs ago #4
I doubt it, they must think the tariffs will hurt their businesses. MLAA 18 hrs ago #12
Of course they do. And they're right. They're not total morons like Trump. Wiz Imp 16 hrs ago #40
Maga relative CountAllVotes 4 hrs ago #53
Absolutely NOT FoxNewsSucks 17 hrs ago #25
I NEVER said it was INTENTIONAL. But, it can have good results in the long term as a side effect. hlthe2b 10 hrs ago #46
Not really, just trying to protect their own interests. Meadowoak 17 hrs ago #26
Eh Katcat 17 hrs ago #31
Don't trust Cherokee100 17 hrs ago #32
You are new to DU. Having been here since 2001, I can assure you few here would... hlthe2b 10 hrs ago #47
The Koch family now knows he is a violent mad man. They thought they control turd with their money. rich7862 16 hrs ago #42
Suing Trump to save Trump from Trump. bucolic_frolic 18 hrs ago #3
imo Mump doesn't want "saving".. they answer to Putin. Cha 18 hrs ago #18
I won't be surprised if this lawsuit figures prominently in Trumpos future. nt BootinUp 18 hrs ago #5
I knew big business wasn't going to let maga scorch-earth the world lindysalsagal 18 hrs ago #6
Correct. Pandemics are bad for business, too. (nt) Pinback 17 hrs ago #28
The Kochs also help fund the Heritage Foundation. Buns_of_Fire 18 hrs ago #7
Who knew...DUH... FalloutShelter 18 hrs ago #8
Koch financed Heritage from the beginning Ferryboat 18 hrs ago #13
THIS THIS THIS johnnyfins 18 hrs ago #15
I think you've got them perfectly. paleotn 17 hrs ago #21
It was Joseph Coors who co-founded the Heritage Foundation and started the seed money. valleyrogue 17 hrs ago #23
Good ol' Joseph Coor Senior ???? DENVERPOPS 17 hrs ago #33
Coors wasn't sold east of the Mississippi so naturally, people wanted what they couldn't have Deuxcents 16 hrs ago #35
At the time DENVERPOPS 16 hrs ago #38
Yep, the old crackpot who died in 2003. valleyrogue 16 hrs ago #41
I seem to recall DENVERPOPS 4 hrs ago #50
I believe it was his brother. valleyrogue 3 hrs ago #54
Yea, he was a "Coor's" third generation DENVERPOPS 3 hrs ago #55
Fire BAD! dchill 17 hrs ago #34
If they are getting involved Keepthesoulalive 18 hrs ago #9
Kick dalton99a 18 hrs ago #10
K&R spanone 18 hrs ago #11
Koch is angling for a tariff exception. And he'll get it. Hassler 18 hrs ago #14
Charles Koch is 89 years old with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. valleyrogue 15 hrs ago #44
😂 loved your first line 😀 NT Tickle 10 hrs ago #48
Interesting. Don't they want to kiss the ring? 58Sunliner 18 hrs ago #16
The monster burst out of the lab and is now running amok. paleotn 17 hrs ago #24
Gee, ya think they might have been an extremely terrible idea? Initech 18 hrs ago #17
Bahaha!;! 😆 FirstLight 18 hrs ago #19
The Ids of March are a bit late, valleyrogue 15 hrs ago #45
K&R orangecrush 17 hrs ago #20
Whoa xuplate 17 hrs ago #22
More Dr. Frankenstein imitations. paleotn 17 hrs ago #27
Even a broken clock is right twice a day russiamommy 17 hrs ago #29
What a hoot dweller 17 hrs ago #30
I think the koch Figarosmom 16 hrs ago #36
a squirrel knows more about the law than his lawyers moonshinegnomie 16 hrs ago #39
Just cant make this stuff up. Jit423 16 hrs ago #37
If this group has standing to sue, I believe they will win, at least in the lower courts Wiz Imp 16 hrs ago #43
Exactly ScratchCat 4 hrs ago #52
Fafo assholes. NNadir 5 hrs ago #49
Dr. Frankenstein, clean-up in aisle three! Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #51

moonshinegnomie

(3,256 posts)
4. not only them but Leonard Leo too
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:09 PM
18 hrs ago

hes teh person most responsible for trying to stack teh judiciary with right wing partisans

Wiz Imp

(4,596 posts)
40. Of course they do. And they're right. They're not total morons like Trump.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 11:31 PM
16 hrs ago

They know what happened with Smoot-Hawley in 1930

CountAllVotes

(21,601 posts)
53. Maga relative
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 11:47 AM
4 hrs ago

She is a baby machine pushing 40.

She has no idea who McKinley was. She spells his name "McKinnley".

Who will pay the bills with six little kids? The high school educated father?

Worry not little dear, Jesus will save your sorry ass!

These people live and die the MAGA world. Being most are unable to read/write properly, plagiarism is their best friend.

These are the ones running up the big bills, it sure is not me.

Is my $23 in food stamps there today?

& recommend.



FoxNewsSucks

(11,052 posts)
25. Absolutely NOT
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:13 PM
17 hrs ago

It only means it affects them, and their lawsuit probably is only to get their own business's exempted.

They're still evil fucks, and always will be

hlthe2b

(108,947 posts)
46. I NEVER said it was INTENTIONAL. But, it can have good results in the long term as a side effect.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 05:05 AM
10 hrs ago

Meadowoak

(6,447 posts)
26. Not really, just trying to protect their own interests.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:17 PM
17 hrs ago

They must have done the math, and found out that their wealth comes from the bottom, up. And when people at the bottom aren't/can't buying, it effects those at the top.

hlthe2b

(108,947 posts)
47. You are new to DU. Having been here since 2001, I can assure you few here would...
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 05:06 AM
10 hrs ago

A byproduct or an act-- quite accidental--may produce some good.

rich7862

(383 posts)
42. The Koch family now knows he is a violent mad man. They thought they control turd with their money.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 11:38 PM
16 hrs ago

the turd has stolen so much money from every avenue and department of our government, Trump does not need the oligarchies money any more.

lindysalsagal

(22,566 posts)
6. I knew big business wasn't going to let maga scorch-earth the world
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:18 PM
18 hrs ago

He's getting stopped at every turn. Now we need the federal scientists reinstated before rfk causes another pandemic.

Buns_of_Fire

(18,277 posts)
7. The Kochs also help fund the Heritage Foundation.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:18 PM
18 hrs ago

Playing both ends against the middle, or "let's you and him fight?"

Ferryboat

(1,135 posts)
13. Koch financed Heritage from the beginning
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:47 PM
18 hrs ago

If they are suing, it shows they have lost control of their own creation.

Wet dream came true with unintended consequences.

valleyrogue

(1,946 posts)
23. It was Joseph Coors who co-founded the Heritage Foundation and started the seed money.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:12 PM
17 hrs ago

Paul Weyrich and Edwin Feulner were the other founders. When it comes to the filthy rich, they are all pretty much interchangeable.

DENVERPOPS

(11,601 posts)
33. Good ol' Joseph Coor Senior ????
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:49 PM
17 hrs ago

Grandpa Coors and all his buddies, dressed in White Robes and Hoods, would assemble on the last Sunday? of every month on the top of Table Top Mountain, right beside the Adolph Coors beer plant....They would erect a giant 20' tall, wooden cross on the mountain, late in the afternoon, and light it on fire at dusk.......You could see it from all over Denver........."Just a warning"..........
Coors had a policy of restricting employees to white only until the mid? 70's. Including not only Blacks, but Mexicans too....

Most Coloradans in the 70's couldn't understand why the rest of the nation loved coors beer............to us, it just tasted like piss.
Until a year or two ago, they still falsely advertised on every can "Brewed With Pure Rocky Mountain Spring Water" which was the best joke of all !!!!!!!!!!!!! They didn't have a spring. Their source of water was Clear Creek, one of the most polluted streams in Colorado. All the run off from the snow/rain in the mountains trickled down through the old mine tailings every where around Idaho Springs. Better than that, there were a noteable number of small towns who discharged their waste water into the Creek above Coor's take out point for their beer.....

Deuxcents

(21,588 posts)
35. Coors wasn't sold east of the Mississippi so naturally, people wanted what they couldn't have
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:58 PM
16 hrs ago

I remember when guys I worked with came back from vacation out west and brought back a case or two of it..a big deal. When I finally got out there I thought Olympia beer was a lot better but it wasn’t sold in the south, either. Smart marketing strategy on Coors’ part to pent up demand for their beer

DENVERPOPS

(11,601 posts)
38. At the time
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 11:03 PM
16 hrs ago

Coors wouldn't sell anywhere but in Colorado......A few years later, they decided to open their first distributorship and a close friend of mine bought it, and opened it in Bozeman Montana.

President Ford would spend a lot of time in Vail, and would take home a bunch of cases of Coors on his way back to DC.

valleyrogue

(1,946 posts)
41. Yep, the old crackpot who died in 2003.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 11:37 PM
16 hrs ago

It was real trendy to drink Coors back in the seventies. I didn't drink beer because it made me sick.

Coors, both him and the beer, should have stayed in Colorado.

DENVERPOPS

(11,601 posts)
50. I seem to recall
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 11:39 AM
4 hrs ago

one of his sons got kidnapped and murdered.........I will have to see if I can find something about it

DENVERPOPS

(11,601 posts)
55. Yea, he was a "Coor's" third generation
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 12:44 PM
3 hrs ago

a grandson.....It's all described in Wiki...............

Keepthesoulalive

(1,134 posts)
9. If they are getting involved
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:24 PM
18 hrs ago

They fear financial loss, no altruism involved. This is very bad but they can stop the hemorrhaging.

Hassler

(4,188 posts)
14. Koch is angling for a tariff exception. And he'll get it.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:49 PM
18 hrs ago

We are in the grift part of Kraznov's predictable pattern: Create an emergency, Grift for money, Declare the emergency solved, Bask in his brilliant victory, Repeat.

valleyrogue

(1,946 posts)
44. Charles Koch is 89 years old with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 12:14 AM
15 hrs ago

If he is fairly cogent, he might be worried about what is left of his fortune when he finally kicks the bucket. His "legacy" of libertarian insanity (I know, redundant) may not outlive him.

paleotn

(20,200 posts)
24. The monster burst out of the lab and is now running amok.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:13 PM
17 hrs ago

Like German industrialists thought they could control Hitler he'd kiss THIER ring. Didn't happen that way. Same here. History is rhyming again.

FirstLight

(14,829 posts)
19. Bahaha!;! 😆
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 09:56 PM
18 hrs ago

It's starting..!!

I just saw another thread where somebody asked how long it'll be before the bastard is removed by his own fucking party lol. You know I've got very few stocks so if I lose money it's usually only about 200 bucks maybe 300 in a bad day.. you think about how many stocks these fuckers own LMAO

Entire companies are going to bite the dust if he doesn't resend these tariffs. I doubt and that all of the rich people are making money on these deals. I'm sure there's plenty of people that are going to lose their shirts and they're coming for him ...😆😆😆

valleyrogue

(1,946 posts)
45. The Ids of March are a bit late,
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 12:19 AM
15 hrs ago

but the knives are being sharpened as we write these posts.

paleotn

(20,200 posts)
27. More Dr. Frankenstein imitations.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:20 PM
17 hrs ago

Who knew the monster they help create would get loose and start trashing the place?! Turns out, the monster has his own agenda and it's a little different from theirs. Donny's making them kiss his ring. Wasn't supposed to work that way and they're pissed about it. Otherwise, they'd just have a chat and get an "exemption." No need for a lawsuit unless Donny isn't playing like he was supposed play.

russiamommy

(275 posts)
29. Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:33 PM
17 hrs ago

I’ve been working with IEEPA for nearly 40 years. They are right on the law. Hopefully more companies will jump on the bandwagon here.

dweller

(26,227 posts)
30. What a hoot
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 10:36 PM
17 hrs ago

If the 1% are the ones who will break out the torches and pitchforks … riot in the streets and cause the insurrection act to happen … then get themselves shipped to El Salvador prisons

🫤



✌🏻

Jit423

(1,127 posts)
37. Just cant make this stuff up.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 11:03 PM
16 hrs ago

A circular fuck-fest is taking place within the Love-Trump-MAGA community.

Wiz Imp

(4,596 posts)
43. If this group has standing to sue, I believe they will win, at least in the lower courts
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 11:42 PM
16 hrs ago

From the article:

Under art. 1, § 8 of the Constitution, Congress has sole authority to control tariffs, which it has done by passing detailed tariff statutes. The President cannot bypass those statutes by invoking “emergency” authority in another statute that does not mention tariffs.


This is 100% accurate and lower courts should rule as such. However, I will not even try to predict how the Supreme Court would rule on this issue.

ScratchCat

(2,640 posts)
52. Exactly
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 11:42 AM
4 hrs ago

This really shouldn't even be happening because Congress should have already shut him down.

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