Trump is in really deep shit so our corrupt "liberal media" is now pushing the Joe Biden was out of it lie.

[Botany]

The Republicans own the media. End of story. Remember we just had to attack Iraq
because Saddam had WMDs? Distraction is what the P.T.B. need to do as Trump
is grifting in Saudi Arabia. Hence the Biden was out of it and really needed a wheel-
chair merde.

President Biden to me was the best President of my lifetime and accomplished a lot
and hardly was a doddering old man who was out of it. This just another version of
the price of eggs memes (120 + million chickens died so the price of eggs went up),
or Hunter Biden’s laptop smear job (Russian/GOP project), or Hillary’s email server,
or what about India and China producing CO2 too so we shouldn’t work on the climate,
or the Jan. 6th domestic terrorists who attacked our National Capitol to overturn an
election were just patriots and tourists, or the C-19 global pandemic was really Dr. Anthony
Fauci’s fault for the 14 million dead world wide (real #s) not Trump’s responsibility, or
the late night shift in Ohio’s 2004 vote showed that people were worried about gay
marriage, or the danger from some 17 year old t-girl playing high school softball, or …

This Biden was out of touch shit is a planned distraction from Trump’s corruption,
fascism, and lawlessness. CNN was pushing this crap for the 30 seconds I watched
this AM.

Botany =


Botany =

[SocialDemocrat61]

1. Exactly

Too bad some of the corporate media sycophantic apologists don’t seem to understand that. If this was May 1940, CNN would be discussing if Churchill was an alcoholic.

[Botany]

4. Or Fox News .... President Zelenskyy had to keep Biden from falling.

[Brainfodder]

2. Of course everything bad these 4 years is the previous President's fault but not the previous previous?

Let's have a public vote on the matter?

[rampartd]

22. they will "win" that one as well

"it is not the votes that count, it is the counter of the votes."stalin

[kentuck]

3. This is what Repubs will run on for the next election cycle...

...and maybe even in 2028?

"Democrats covered up the condition of Joe Biden", they are saying.

But whatever was "covered up" on Joe Biden is small potatoes compared to what is being covered up for Donald Trump at this very moment.

[mwmisses4289]

5. So start calling the media out on their lies.

Surely most media outlets have some sort of equivalent to letters to the editor page. Start calling them out on it.

[live love laugh]

64. Hahaha hahahaha

[2naSalit]

6. Facilitators of this bullshit...

AKA, those openly promoting this shit, David Axelrod on NPR this morning and Jake Tapper who just released a book describing the details of what he believes - ? to be Biden's decline. Fuck those guys, there's a reason people don't listen to them.

I think Biden is just fine, still has his head in the game and is miles ahead of anyone in the current admin.

[True Blue American]

9. Tappers book was not fact checked.

[2naSalit]

10. Yes!

Thanks for mentioning that.

[SocialDemocrat61]

23. Just curious

What is the source of that?
Of course, we know that Tapper doesn't like fact checking, especially in debates.

[True Blue American]

70. A Biden Spokesman.

Nothing in the book was fact checked and they disagreed with the book
.
Biden was getting frail but there is nothing wrong with his mind.

I am older than Biden, legs getting weak but after an hour on the phone with Medicare Advantage tryning to solve an insurance problem was told my brain was just fine.

I am a lousy typist because I do not take time to check. My brain has moved on to the next subject.

[Tickle]

7. these are the books coming out about Biden

Upcoming and Recent Books on Joe Biden

1. Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again
Authors: Jake Tapper (CNN) and Alex Thompson (Axios)

This book alleges that Biden's aides concealed his physical and cognitive decline during his presidency. Based on over 200 interviews, it details incidents like Biden not recognizing George Clooney at a 2024 fundraiser and internal discussions about using a wheelchair due to his mobility issues. The authors argue that Biden's decision to seek re-election, despite health concerns, was detrimental to the Democratic Party.

2. Fight: Inside the Wildest Battle for the White House
Authors: Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes

This book provides an inside look at the 2024 presidential election, focusing on Biden's re-election campaign, his eventual withdrawal, and Kamala Harris's nomination. It highlights internal conflicts within the Democratic Party and the challenges faced during the campaign.

3. Uncharted: How Trump Beat Biden, Harris, and the Odds in the Wildest Campaign in History
Author: Chris Whipple

Whipple's book examines the 2024 election, emphasizing Biden's cognitive challenges and the administration's internal struggles. It includes accounts of Biden's debate performance and the subsequent decision to withdraw from the race.

4. 2024: How Trump Retook the White House and the Democrats Lost America
Authors: Josh Dawsey, Tyler Pager, and Isaac Arnsdorf

This forthcoming book offers a comprehensive account of the 2024 election, analyzing the strategies of both the Trump and Biden campaigns. It is based on over 300 interviews conducted over 18 months.
Wikipedia

[True Blue American]

8. Thank you for that.

I came home from the Y, Joe and Mika were going on about her Father, who has been dead for years.

TURNED TO CNN, they were breathlessly reporting for the umpteenth time that Biden did not recognize George Clooney, a guy from Ky. Who made iin Movies.

Who the hell cares?

BTW, Jake Tappers book was never fact checked, according to those speaking out for Biden. Tapper is the worst snake in the grass, Democrat, turned Republican..

[Botany]

11. Joe saved this. The Copper River and Bristol Bay in Alaska.

Good enough for me.

[Bluepinky]

47. Thank you Joe! One of our greatest Presidents.

[Botany]

50. Joe helped protect this too. The Boundary Waters/Quetico wilderness areas.

[Bluepinky]

54. Lovely!!

[SocialDemocrat61]

24. Of course, that's the top story on FAUX

BTW Here are some pics of Clooney.


Not sure if I would recognize him either.

[greatauntoftriplets]

34. I had trouble recognizing Clooney in the top photo.

Joe Biden looks a lot better for his age.

[yorkster]

52. In the top photo he is made up for his role

as Edward R. Murrow in Good Night and Good Luck which is currently playing on Broadway, iirc.

I have been avoiding CNN specifically after having heard Tapper pushing his book and various reporters mention the Clooney business ...Tapper is especially loathsome.
Hope the book bombs.

[greatauntoftriplets]

53. Thanks for that.

He doesn't look much like Murrow there either. I have no intention of reading the book.

[LisaM]

25. George Clooney has aged a lot. He looks different.

As I mentioned in another thread, I also didn't recognize George Clooney in a Nespresso ad he made with Eva Longoria. From a couple of angles he didn't look like George Clooney at all and I had no idea who he was. I thought they had replaced him as their spokesperson.

I agree that Jake Tapper is doing this as a CYA. There is no other explanation. Clearly there were no governing issues with Biden.

[GoCubsGo]

32. Stephanie Miller was a the fund-raiser in question.

She pointed out that Biden had just come in from being overseas, and had been 12 time zones away just prior to the event. That could throw anyone for a loop, no matter what shape they're in. She also said he was quite sharp. This is all BS. They pulled the same garbage with Hillary. Remember that 9-11 memorial service where she got sick, and for weeks, the fucking media claimed she was dying? Same shit, different day.

And, as Stephanie also pointed out, we all saw him riding his bicycle regularly. We didn't see anyone rolling him up in a wheelchair to get on his bike.

[LisaM]

40. I think he has some neuropathy in his feet.

So does my mom. So does my friend's 20-year old son who is being treated for leukemia.

Last I heard, mild neuropathy in your feet has no relationship to brain function.

[redstatebluegirl]

42. I have neuropathy in my feet.

I walk gingerly but my brain works just fine. I have often thought that was President Biden's problem.

I am younger than he is and I could not ride a bike on a good day.

They are fishing for things to cover up the orange orangutans shortcomings.

[GoCubsGo]

55. Also keep in mind that he broke his ankle right after he was elected.

Got tripped up by Major, IIRC. Ankle injuries often haunt even the most young, spry people for years. I had a BAD sprain back in my 20s. I still get twinges in that ankle nearly 40 years later. I have little doubt that Biden STILL has issues with that ankle. that affect his abiilty to walk.

[True Blue American]

41. George is now playing

Edward R Morrow. Had to die his hair black.. His father, Nick was on local WLW for years. He is now 90, still handsome. Better than Nick.
But Biden met so many people, George was probably just another guy.
I know one thing, I have not watched Tapper for ages. He is a snake.

NBC just said it would cost billions and take years to retrofit.
Yest Tapper is bad mouthing Biden, Joe and Mika going on about her father who has been dead foryears years!

[LisaM]

59. This was in a Nespresso ad. He looked different.

Grizzled, kind of grumpy.

[Bluepinky]

46. Jake Tapper has to bow to his corporate masters.

To keep his cushy job at CNN, he needed to join the “Biden was BAD” bandwagon. Make up an old crisis to hide the evolving real current crisis, plus make some easy cash while doing it. Tapper is too weak to do the honorable thing like Jim Acosta did, which was to quit rather than lie.

[Johonny]

12. They told us we had a deep bench and Joe was too old

And out of touch.

They got Trump. Now somehow it is Joe's fault. Hey media, you created and shoved that narrative down our throat. Trump is on you. You, not Joe, fucked up. Suck it.

[tulipsandroses]

13. With all that, he managed to set us up to revive the economy post Covid

Now chump is tanking it. Telling kids they must suck it up and expect less toys at Christmas while he accepts a 400 million dollar plane after using tax payer money to go to sporting events. He doesn’t know if he has to obey the constitution. Stunning words from a president.
I’ll take that “doddering” old man over this corrupt cruel old man.

[TBF]

14. Joe Biden directly did things for normal people -

like cancel their student loans. Republicans loathe doing things for others and will set out to destroy his reputation for this alone.

[Botany]

17. 4th of July, 2024 President Biden removed the dishonorable discharge charges on thousands of men

…. and women who served our Country’s military but were gay. This allows them to get the
benefits of being a veteran. As an old straight white guy this was the right thing to do and
long overdue. It was leadership just like as Veep he came out for gay marriage.

He saved this too. Bear’s Ears Monument in Utah.

[Iris]

15. Right? I wish Biden had not appeared on The View

[Mr.Bee]

16. PBS. folks...

Support PBS and Newshouir!
Why do you think republicans want it killed?
There is no Public in 'Republicans'...
It's all a lie.

[IronLionZion]

18. Reagan and Trump are doddering old fools completely out of it

Biden got our country from the Trump COVID recession to a strong diversified economy. High employment, better wages, more unions, high stock market, very important economic reforms, etc. Idiots were complaining "nobody wants to work anymore".

GOP much prefers "they're stealing our jobs" dystopian recession mentality. They love having an enemy to complain about. For Trump it's immigrants, the federal workforce, American institutions, and anyone who disagrees with him.

[JohnSJ]

29. and of course when Trump confused E. Jean Carroll for his ex-wife maples, it was just a brief byline.

[Lonestarblue]

19. This is all based on a new book on Biden by Jake Tapper (CNN) and Alex Thompson (Axios).

The book is “Original Sin,” and it supposedly tells how President Biden’s advisers “stomped out discussion of his age-related limitations, including internal concerns of aides, external worries of Democratic allies and scrutiny by journalists.”

According to the NYT review, the book is based almost entirely on anonymous sources. I interpret that to mean people who were not in Biden’s inner circle who I think would be more loyal to him. Had Tapper and Thompson written a book about the successes of the Biden presidency, few would buy it because Republicans don’t want to know about the successes and Democrats already know about them. So they wrote a book with controversial stories from sources who refused to be named and thus may be totally unreliable or Trump supporters trying to damage the Biden legacy.

[orangecrush]

31. Tapper is a whore .

[GoCubsGo]

33. That's an insult to whores.

[orangecrush]

51. True

[Pisces]

44. Loyalty means lying and cover up? I thought that's what Republicans required.

[Clouds Passing]

20. They smearing Joe because he spoke last week. And I believe it's their way to try to silence him.

[marti]

21. Biden

so true- "Our media" should be doing opposition stories on the great job he did in NEGOTIATING hard DEALS that saved us after the pandemic!

Biden was the real deal maker!

[Botany]

27. Joe made me proud

[Tommy Carcetti]

39. I love that picture.

I took a picture from literally that exact same spot several years before.

[Kid Berwyn]

26. The Aspens

Connected at the roots per Steno Judy, same roots doing a number on any colorful trees, if ya get my drift.

[live love laugh]

63. I don't get it but I'm kinda dense ....

[Kid Berwyn]

73. Scooter Libby begged NYT Judith Miller to keep her connections secret.

Scooter Libby, Judy Miller and those turning aspens

What did Libby mean in his cryptic letter to Miller? She provides some clues.

By TIM GRIEVE
SALON, JANUARY 31, 2007

Excerpt…

The Aspen Strategy Group was and is a veritable who's who of the Washington foreign policy-media establishment. Its co-chairmen are Brent Scowcroft, the national security advisor for George H.W. Bush, and Joe Nye, who served in the State Department under Jimmy Carter and in the Defense Department under Bill Clinton. In August 2003, its members included Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Rep. Jane Harman, former Defense Secretary Bill Perry, former CIA Director James Woolsey, Times reporter David Sanger, a slew of think tank and foundation types -- and Miller herself.

So are members of the Aspen Strategy Group the "aspens" of which Libby wrote? They meet "out west," where Libby had seen Miller on vacation. And like arboreal aspens, the members of the group are closely "connected," not only at the "roots" -- early members of the group included Walter Mondale, Paul Nitze, Les Aspin, Zbigniew Brzezinski and and Robert McNamara -- but also at the branches. A profile of the group posted on its Web site says it's "credited" with launching many careers, including that of Condoleezza Rice; Scowcroft invited her to start attending meetings in the 1980s because, he said, "I thought I should get to know her better and introduce her to some of these groups who would move her along."

Continues…

https://www.salon.com/2007/01/31/aspens/

She was willing to protect her associates and their underground connections, who include that day’s mere billionaires. Aspens are white trees, connected unseen by their roots...

[JohnSJ]

28. CNN has been a garbage network since they distortion about Gore in 2000, and it has only gotten worse.

The free advertising CNN did for the Swift Boat bullshit aginst Kerry, the constant sexist slurs they used against Hillary, and the blatant disrespect they showed to President Biden was disgraceful.

They have lost any credibility long ago, and the network that Ted Turner founded is a joke.

There are plenty of avenues to obtain objective news, and CNN is not one of them.

[orangecrush]

30. Joe Biden is not the fucking president.

[Seinan Sensei]

35. I'm sure Trump CANNOT ride a bike (like Biden did)

And I am sure that Biden CAN walk down a ramp.
(Like Trump could not)

Film at eleven

[Self Esteem]

36. Unfortunately, Democrats and Biden himself have done him no favors.

High-profiled Democrats like Nancy Pelosi failed to push back significantly about the claims.

Biden and his team also failed. They refused to acknowledge the age issue and that Americans were concerned about his mental fitness. Instead of running a robust campaign, they shielded Biden from the media, which meant he held fewer press conferences and interviews than any president in modern history.

These stories have legs because they're believable. And Biden and Democrats did zero to dispell the narrative.

Biden's number one objective in 2024 was to make sure Trump was beaten and he kinda failed there. I blame the hubris of his campaign for refusing to see the issues that would become so apparent after his debate. Biden trailed in pretty much every national poll, and nearly every swing state poll going back to September, 2023. And there was never any attempt to address the sagging numbers - at least not until it was too late and he was already in desperation mode after the debate.

[live love laugh]

61. Lies.

[Self Esteem]

69. Intelligent argument.

[live love laugh]

71. No argument. Fact.

[Self Esteem]

75. Your definition of fact is eerily similar to Trump's.

Maybe put a bit more effort into your argument and point out where I lied...or is that too hard for you?

[NCDem47]

37. While some post-admin books are expected after one leaves the WH...

There's a prevailing and sustained drum beat from multiple journalists that Biden and his handlers were the creeps for hiding his mental and physical challenges. That's teh headline for all of tem. Trump wants annihilate Biden's legacy and he's directed all his flying monkees to spread out and make it so. Classic "Look over there, not here" move.

[live love laugh]

62. Republicans want to annihilate all Democrats history from JFK to Clinton to Biden,

and the media only helps.

But why wouldn’t they “help” the majority ownership?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

68. Yet they don't see the cognitive decline of Trump?

News is supposed to be current events ie stuff that's new.

Biden is no longer president. Only those defending Trump care what Joe's short comings may have been.

[angrychair]

38. Funny you should mention that

I was going to post something today along those lines. So I don't have cable anymore, just internet, so I don't get to hear or see TV news much anymore. I get gear it on satillite radio for about 20 minutes a day when I'm driving and another glimpse of the actual TV news from several sources for the first 20 minutes I'm at the gym on the elliptical, Planet Fitness has a bunch of TVs setup. So while everyone else was talking about Mango Mussolini's corrupt ass trip to the ME, Faux was talking about the news media covering up Biden being incompetent during his administration. That Faux isn't an overt propaganda arm of the Republican party should not be in doubt to anyone.

[Pisces]

43. I guess, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, David Plouff, and many others that spoke out are also liars???

Enough. The book is coming out, there are plenty of sources, as well as our own lying eyes and ears. He was diminishing. Was he out of it the whole time, NO. Could he have gone another 4 yrs No.

I understand we are mad that this keeps getting brought up, but it is called reflection. If you can’t reflect you can’t grow and change.

You are acting like the parent that says “ Not my little Johnny” to the teacher giving you a true assessment of your little monster.

[live love laugh]

66. When did Pelosi or Obama speak out? That's a lie.

[Pisces]

67. They urged him to drop out of race after the debate

[live love laugh]

72. No they didn't.

[Pisces]

74. Here's an article. She still has not spoken to him since urging him to drop out.

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) says she still hasn't spoken to President Biden since urging him to drop out of the 2024 race, and some of his allies "haven't forgiven" her for pressuring him about the decision.

Why it matters: Pelosi was among the top Democrats who called for Biden to end his presidential campaign, despite Biden's insistence at the time that he stay in the race.

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/15/pelosi-biden-drop-out-election-2024

[live love laugh]

76. "An article" .... There were MANY many articles you can cherry pick if you want.

Generally from Google;


AI Overview


Nancy Pelosi has stated that she did not ask President Joe Biden to step aside during his 2024 re-election campaign.

Conflicting Reports:
While Pelosi has denied directly asking Biden to drop out, multiple sources suggest she played a significant role in his decision to withdraw from the race.
Reports indicate that Pelosi, along with other prominent Democrats, expressed concerns about Biden's electability and conveyed these concerns to him, potentially influencing his decision.
Pelosi's Position:

Pelosi has consistently maintained that she did not directly pressure Biden to withdraw or lead a pressure campaign to that effect.

She has acknowledged that she had private conversations with Biden regarding his campaign, but has not publicly disclosed the specifics of those conversations.


Biden's Decision:
Ultimately, it was Joe Biden's decision to end his re-election campaign, which he announced in late July 2024.

[live love laugh]

77. Where is "an article" claiming Obama asked Biden to step down?

[Pisces]

79. All of his advisor and anyone with eyes should have asked him not to run again. I'm not here to convince

you of anything. Joe was a great President and unfortunately everyone around him lied to him about the situation.

[live love laugh]

80. You are lying about the "situation". Your whole point just changed because you don't have proof.

[BannonsLiver]

45. I see it quite a bit differently.

Will leave it at that.

[usonian]

48. Books are now written with the finest Artificial Intelligence that Putin can Poison.

Russia's 'Pravda' Disinformation Network is Poisoning Western AI Models.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220315720

https://www.enterprisesecuritytech.com/post/russia-s-pravda-disinformation-network-is-poisoning-western-ai-models
Enterprise Security Tech
March 10, 2025

A well-funded Moscow-based propaganda machine has successfully infiltrated leading artificial intelligence models, flooding Western AI systems with Russian disinformation, a NewsGuard audit has confirmed. The network—dubbed "Pravda," a nod to the Soviet-era newspaper—has been systematically injecting AI chatbots with false narratives by gaming search engines and web crawlers. The implications are severe: AI models are increasingly echoing Kremlin-backed falsehoods, compromising information integrity at an unprecedented scale.

The AI Disinformation Battlefield
NewsGuard’s audit of 10 leading generative AI tools—including OpenAI’s ChatGPT-4o, Google’s Gemini, and Microsoft’s Copilot—found that the models repeated Pravda’s false narratives 33 percent of the time. This marks a disturbing shift in how disinformation is disseminated: rather than targeting human audiences directly, Moscow’s information warfare machine is poisoning the very data streams that AI models rely upon to generate responses.

John Mark Dougan, an American fugitive turned Kremlin propagandist, laid out this strategy bluntly in a Moscow conference earlier this year: “By pushing these Russian narratives from the Russian perspective, we can actually change worldwide AI.” Dougan’s statement underscores a key objective of the Pravda network: weaponizing AI-generated content to reshape global narratives in Russia’s favor.

How Pravda Corrupts AI Models
Unlike traditional disinformation campaigns that aim to persuade human readers, the Pravda network operates as a laundering operation for Kremlin propaganda. It syndicates misleading content across 150 seemingly independent websites, each optimized for AI and search engine algorithms. This includes fabricated claims about Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky misappropriating military aid and false reports of U.S. bioweapons labs in Ukraine.

More at the link.

Garbage in, Garbage Out.
BUT! The finest curated garbage from Putin's Propagandists.

[Emile]

49. Spot on! K & R

[senseandsensibility]

56. To me, it's not just the coverage of Biden NOW when he's been out of

office for months and our nation is in a real crisis, but the way all the corporate media is going along for the ride, it seems. They have completely rewritten history so that now it is accepted wisdom that whatever age issues Biden had were ignored. THEY WEREN'T. There were countless NYT front page headlines and breathless cable news segments about that topic. But you know what is and always will be ignored? Trump's mental state no matter how obvious or well documented.

[Botany]

58. So George Washington's Air Force wasn't an important factor in the Revolutionary War?

Krasnov’s brain is the filling inside of a fig newton.

[Wounded Bear]

57. trump: If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit...

Nobody does it better.

[Blue Owl]

60. FUCK THE M$M

[betsuni]

65. It's as if there's no such thing as stepping down and VP taking over. So stupid.

A lot of people are happy when there's a Democratic administration because they enjoy freaking out all the time about the terrible things that might happen. When Republicans actually do the terrible things things, must ignore or make excuses, it's fine. Have to blame Democrats somehow to start having fun again.

[Karasu]

78. There is unfortunately quite a lot of money to be made in legitimizing fascism.

[iemanja]

81. So no books should be written about Biden?

Because there is nothing unique about Tapper’s argument. There have been countless articles on the subject already, with testimonies of 200 Democrats in Tapper’s case. You’re going to find yourself in a constant state of agitation as the other books, asserting the same thing, come out.

Historians will write books about Biden too. Will you also accuse them of distraction?

I for one will believe the historical record, which I expect will confirm what I’ve seen through my own eyes. If it doesn’t, then I’ll know better. What I won’t do is call them liars because I find the information inconvenient.