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ToxMarz

(2,390 posts)
Wed May 14, 2025, 12:58 PM 21 hrs ago

Why no one addresses Musks control over all aspects of our Government while using dissociative drugs is beyond me

In the Sean "Diddy" Combs sex trafficking testimony today, Casandra Ventura testified about the "Freak Off" parties and her use of Ketamine for the parties.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/05/14/arts/sean-combs-diddy-trial-cassie

"The prosecution showed a 2016 text message from Combs to Ventura about freak-offs. He suggested they have a “proper” freak-off without the drug ketamine involved. He wrote that a “successful” freak-off was “when we remember.”


"Ventura testifies that ketamine was her preferred drug during freak-offs because “it was very dissociative.”




Musk interview with Don Lemon

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/tech/elon-musk-ketamine-use-don-lemon-interview

“There are times when I have sort of a … negative chemical state in my brain, like depression I guess, or depression that’s not linked to any negative news, and ketamine is helpful for getting one out of the negative frame of mind,” Musk told Lemon.


Musk has previously posted on X about his prescription use of ketamine,


Musk denied that he overuses the medication, saying, “if you use too much ketamine, you can’t really get work done.


He added that he doesn’t believe his ketamine use will impact his companies or their government contracts.



I think an independent expert should determine if it approrite or not, not the drug users (addicts?) opinion.
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Midnight Writer

(23,922 posts)
2. Ketamine users develop a tolerance that makes it necessary to use more and more to get the same effect.
Wed May 14, 2025, 01:23 PM
21 hrs ago

Elon may think he is taking a "maintenance-level" dosage, but he must take higher and higher doses to maintain that level.

The higher the dose, the more pronounced the debility it causes, such as dissociative states of consciousness.

This is a dangerous, hallucinatory party drug that is injected into Elon on a daily basis. Even if it helps an underlying condition, such as depression, the side effects still exist and can truly make one feel out of touch with reality, especially at high doses.

If Elon tells his doctor to up the dose, his doctor will up the dose. That's the way things work in Elon-World.

speak easy

(11,452 posts)
3. Ketamine is FDA approved for treatment resistant depression.
Wed May 14, 2025, 01:25 PM
21 hrs ago

It can be abused - I have no idea whether Musk is taking it as a recreational drug, or to treat the severe bouts of depression he has talked about.

Musk is bipolar; he has admitted as much. Of FAR more concern are his bouts of manic psychosis, including memory gaps, which both his ex-wife and also his biographer have described.

ToxMarz

(2,390 posts)
4. That's all fine, good for him and his "therapy"
Wed May 14, 2025, 01:35 PM
20 hrs ago

But should he be in charge of sweeping changes to our entire Goverment without any oversight or vetting as to whether he is competent or it's appropriate?

Aside from that, he can do any and every drug known to man, I couldn't care less.

In this case, he has made it everyones business.

speak easy

(11,452 posts)
5. "should he be in charge of sweeping changes to our entire Government?'"
Wed May 14, 2025, 02:09 PM
20 hrs ago

No. Obviously. For a whole host of reasons.

But my point remains - manic psychosis is infinitely more concerning than ketamine abuse.

ToxMarz

(2,390 posts)
7. Probably true
Wed May 14, 2025, 02:22 PM
20 hrs ago

But I think it would be far easier to get support behind examining and curtailing his activities based on questionable drug use than mental illness. It's more relatable to the average person and/or legislator. Many may even have direct experience. Mental illness can be a bigger nut to crack IMO.

speak easy

(11,452 posts)
8. "Musk biographer describes his wild mood swings and 'demon mode'"
Wed May 14, 2025, 02:51 PM
19 hrs ago
Isaacson noted that Musk has not been officially diagnosed but sometimes “talks about bipolar” to describe his symptoms. He also had been on a wide range of prescription medications, Isaacson said.

“He hasn’t been officially diagnosed, he says, but he talks about bipolar. He takes a lot of prescription medicines at times. He can be variable in his moods, and sometimes has a Jekyll and Hyde quality, where he will go into a dark, depressed mood and say some things, sometimes things that his father said to him, and then a few hours later, you ask him about it. And it’s like he almost has no memory.”

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4198666-musk-biographer-describes-his-wild-mood-swings-and-demon-mode/#:~:text=Isaacson%20noted%20that%20Musk%20has,but%20he%20talks%20about%20bipolar.

If you own a business, it is up to you to put guardrails around potential psychotic episodes; if you are an employee, it is the responsibility of your employee.

What is absolutely ‘contraindicated’ is to have such a person with no guardrails at all, in a position of almost unfettered power.

Initech

(104,785 posts)
6. Why is he even there at all? Nobody elected or appointed him to anything.
Wed May 14, 2025, 02:18 PM
20 hrs ago

And Trump just made up an organization out of thin air whose goal is to dismantle the government. It's all insane.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,621 posts)
9. Most of the cabinet is so bad that you can't tell if they're on dissociative drugs at any one time or not
Wed May 14, 2025, 02:54 PM
19 hrs ago

Was Musk on drugs when he said empathy is the major weakness of Western society? Or is that really how he thinks with no pharmaceutical help?

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