We really shouldn't pay any homage to Bob Dylan here anymore

[wolfie001]

After seeing another hagiographic homage to Bob Dylan again in the Musicians forum, I have to respond. Second time around. I think he pulled the lever for tRUMP in Nov. 2024. Working with Dennis Quaid, a rabid tRUMP supporter. I guess Ice and censorships and anti-LGBTQ and women dying in parking lots (the list is a mile long) is quite OK with the crowd he sidles up with. Others here say he's apolitical. "He's above the fray." Oh really? Rayguns was total shit. I'm a retired Union Boomer and I saw the whole thing go down. I say BS.

[wolfie001]

1. *Just a quick note:

"The Fence" old bobby is singing about with his garbage-disposal sounding voice are the ICE Fences. N'est-ce pas ?

[Captain Zero]

2. First I knew. I'm done with Dylan then.

He still sounds like he is singing into a bucket anyway.

I'm done as well with Eric Clapton and Van Morrison due to their anti-vax positions.

That's a lot of MP3s, I'll never listen to again.
Screw all 3 of them.

[wolfie001]

3. Thank You!

I caught a lot of flack on my first post when I questioned why he didn't say anything about the Orange Imbecile. The sh7t excuses quickly followed. "He's old." Blah blah blah. He wasn't that old in 2015. I think he just wanted to pay less in taxes like all the rich f6cks do. Cheers!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

82. Yup, the answer my friend is blowin in the wind... I'm done too!!

[wolfie001]

112. Well said!!!

[Fiendish Thingy]

4. Doesn't bother me a bit

And doesn’t lower my respect for Dylan at all.

You really had to twist your logic like a pretzel on tilt-a-whirl to connect the dots to justify your contempt for the greatest lyricist of the last hundred years, and you relied in an AI overview (which are often factually wrong, as a post earlier today proved) to do it.

Give me a second to set up my cork board and get out my thread and push pins…

Trump>Quaid>Reagan>Autry&gt Cole Porter, the gay man who wrote “Don’t Fence Me In”)>Dylan= Dylan sucks

Did I get it right?

As Dylan sang in “Summer Days”:

“You’re sucking the blood out of the genius of generosity”

[wolfie001]

6. Keep denying what's in front of your own eyes

Raygun was shit and no Dem should be paying any respect to him. He "only" destroyed Unions and the Middle Class. Maybe you have wealthy parents and don't have any worries. Great for you.

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. Recording a song written by a gay man for a Reagan biopic isn't an endorsement of Reagan's evils

Your disgust is just hatred looking for a target.

Know what riles me up?

It isn’t Dylan, a musician, doing a sing for a failed biopic.

I get steamed over 16 Dem senators voting yes to deregulate cryptocurrency, one of whom, Gallego, accepted a $10 million donation from a crypto Super PAC.

I sent some of my hard earned money Gallego; in 2030, I will send money to his primary opponent.

P.S. I was a union organizer and shop steward making less than minimum wage during the Reagan era, so don’t lecture me about Reagan’s effect on workers and unions.

[wolfie001]

16. He doesn't really deserve any more accolades from us Dems

He's done less than zero supporting freedom and women's and LGBTQ Rights. How ironic from someone who's made millions from that phony image.

[vanlassie]

96. OK. I've read enough to try to discern

just what exactly is your gripe. Now I’m finished.

[wolfie001]

102. Yes, if you came to the conclusion that he just doesn't give a f6ck

[DemocratSinceBirth]

183. Google Sundown On The Union by Bob Dylan.

Give it a listen. Thank you.

[tetedur]

208. "Union Sundown" and "Workingman's Blues #2"

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Another politician pumping out his piss - "Pay in Blood"

Come Senators Congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall.
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled.
There's a battle outside and it's ragin'.
For the times they are a-changin'

"Murder Most Foul"
"Political World"
. . . .
ah shit, I used to care but things have changed.

[Wiz Imp]

206. FYI, Dan Lauria was in the movie playing Tip O'Neill

And he had called for Trump's impeachment. The movie was a paying acting gig for him, not an endorsement of Reagan or Trump.

Link to tweet

[synni]

66. He's not the greatest lyricist in the last 100 years

He's a nasal-whining bore whose songs are only worshipped by people who are stuck in the past.

[Fiendish Thingy]

67. If you say so

I’ll leave you to enjoy Radiohead, or Arcade Fire, or Sabrina Carpenter…

[fujiyamasan]

87. Hey, hey there's no need to group arcade fire and Radiohead

With the likes of Sabrina carpenter. Lol

[Fiendish Thingy]

122. I just picked the first three..

Highly overrated artists I could think of.

[JanMichael]

138. Sprawl 2 is an amazing song so phht.

[wolfie001]

162. RH is overrated?

Maybe you got mad when Radiohead snubbed Kanye at the Grammy's

[Fiendish Thingy]

181. I'm not mad at Radiohead

Just bored with their “music”.

[rubbersole]

142. "Please don't embarrass me motherfucker..." SC

[wolfie001]

161. 'Creep" is iconic

BD has never done anything so mind-alteringly cool as that.

[Fiendish Thingy]

179. Creep was plagiarized from the Hollies "the Air That I Breathe"

Radiohead was sued and had to share the royalties.

…and they didn’t respond to your “all hands on deck” alarm either.

[TnDem]

83. Bob Dylan

@synni

He's a nasal-whining bore whose songs are only worshipped by people who are stuck in the past.

If Bob Dylan is stuck in the past, then why is your avatar of someone born the exact same year as Dylan, (1941)? Wouldn't that be the past too?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

89. I heard Bernie voted for trump too.

Pass it on.

[wolfie001]

103. This must be snark

[wolfie001]

160. lol

[DemocratSinceBirth]

184. Who are the greatest lyricists of the past one hundred years?

[DoBW]

81. My favorite live version of Hurricane. it's a work of art

Live on PBS, 1975

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[highplainsdem]

133. Brilliant performance. Thanks for posting it!

[DoBW]

186. The whole gig ....

live -- just him, 3 others, long song, a ton of lyrics ... it's ripe for failure, but they nail it

[DemocratSinceBirth]

180. He loved President Obama, talked him up at some of his concerts, and received the Medal of Freedom from him.

I can't believe he's MAGA.

[Fiendish Thingy]

182. He's not MAGA

That’s just a lie that has emerged from this thread.

[BannonsLiver]

190. He's not

It’s just some goofy idea that the OP cooked up in the manufactured outrage machine.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

197. Send this over to the OP

https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/bob-dylan-universal-love/

[markodochartaigh]

5. To me

"apolitical" when authoritarians are trying to seize power is the same as "I don't care enough to stand up for democracy".

Especially when someone has Dylan's power and privilege, made mostly from working class dollars, I might add.

"Above the fray" in the fight for democracy just means that you are perfectly willing to let others do the fighting for you.

[wolfie001]

8. Thank you!!!

I'd love to see the flea-bag apologists drummed out of here. "Old bobby" could've done SOMETHING!!!

[Fiendish Thingy]

15. It's not up to celebrities to save democracy - that's our job. Nt

[wolfie001]

17. As an American, I beg to differ

All hands-on deck.

[Fiendish Thingy]

22. You seem to think some hands are more important than others

You seem to want to tell everyone what they should do.

P.S. I’m a dual citizen- Californian by birth, Canadian by choice.

[wolfie001]

23. Saying something pro Freedom into his microphone.....

......isn't really as taxing as singing his now horribly garbled song list Right? I mean, if he gave a shit.

[TnDem]

39. re: artists

I don't listen to any artist expecting a political message. That's not why I listen to music. I listen to enjoy the music, not get the news or opinion page.

It's really not very wise of them to say much anyway, because they are going to automatically alienate 50% of their audience when they come down one way or another on a topic.

[themaguffin]

195. It can't be held against him for not speaking out. He stopped protest music nearly 60 years ago. Also...

his speaking out would make no difference at this stage. Who is he influencing? He's 80+.

The real question is - where is the protest music and comments from current artists?

[AllaN01Bear]

7. dont get me started on raygun and what he did to ca and sag aftra. took us years to recover from his bs.

[wolfie001]

11. The asshole worked hand-in -hand with Senator McCarthy for christo-psycho sakes!!!

Like, WTF! Give me a break! The list of Hollywood talent whose lives were ruined! That should've been enough. That nasty f6ck was just getting started.

[ImNotGod]

9. I remember finding out a few decades ago that he was suffering from I got mine to hell with you syndrome. nt

[wolfie001]

12. Yes! My personal, "He's a greedy asshole" detector is bleeping quite loudly

[JI7]

10. Isn't he really old ? Maybe he is too tired to do anything

Isn't this place always telling is people to get out of the way but now want this guy to lead protests ?

[wolfie001]

13. He wasn't that old when the fat orange imbecile rode the elevator down in the tRUMP Tower (2015)

He's performed how many times since? Too many in my opinion. He should just go away. His political inactivity is actually harmful.

[DBoon]

18. Joan Baez and Neil Young are really old too

That isn't stopping them from taking a public stand

[wolfie001]

148. Those 2 are great folk singers I respect!

[hlthe2b]

19. I have no Dylan worship beyond respecting his musical past; but we are upset because he allowed song in a Reagan movie?

Is that right? And because Quaid (whom I wrote off long ago) is producing or acting in it or something? And that then "proves" Dylan is a Trumper? And anti-Union?

Look, I have probably had as much time to detest Reagan as most here, but heaven knows (as an aside) we'd be better off having a Reagan TODAY AS OUR OPPONENT than Trump. Even with his Alzheimer's, he was not as overtly and intentionally destructive and dangerous to democracy (and all of us) as the vengeful, demented Trump.

So, maybe I missed something, but I've never been one to extrapolate that broadly.

That said, if it is because Dylan is politically (seemingly) silent on Trump, I'll just say that the likes of Springsteen and Neil Young will always be the examples I respect on that score. Those in that prior activist category who remain silent (unless health has robbed them of the ability to stand up at least verbally) are cowards.

[wolfie001]

21. I guess his not lifting a finger in opposition to rayguns and tRUMP is "No biggie"

I mean, the 2 absolute worse motherfuckers to ever live in the WH. Yes, you missed the whole impact. I guess we can just put our head in the sand and do a little more sane-washing. It so therapeutic. What I'm trying to say is, "F6ck Bob Dylan!"

[hlthe2b]

24. You did not read my full post, obviously because I addressed what appears to be his lack of response to Trump, BUT

you can damned well cool your heels on this because I am left taking YOUR account that he has not done so. If true and Dylan is able to speak out as Neil Young has done, for instance, then he is a coward for not doing so, as I already stated. Reagan is long dead. The issue is Trump. I don't give a GD about some moronic documentary or movie Quaid is making which will bomb like every other project he's attempted in recent years.

Show me proof that Dylan (who is NO God to me, mind you) has been pro-Trump, and I WILL appreciate that clarification. But, you have not done so thusfar, but merely smeared him by inference and that is a tactic the other side welcomes--not me.

[wolfie001]

109. I saw an interview Quaid gave discussing tRUMP and......

....would love to punch him right in his face. 👊 Same with "Skid" Rock.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

76. "F6ck Bob Dylan!"

F6ck 6.

[nocoincidences]

88. 6 is also a Cyrillic letter

/just sayin'

[A-Schwarzenegger]

90. I took it as a sub for u.

Not u, but ... 6 know what i mean.

P.S. Love your sig line, btw.

[wolfie001]

110. I have been throwing out the expletives frequently here lately

With the US being such a shitshow. Whoops, there's another

[regnaD kciN]

31. Ironically, Neil Young was a huge Bonzo fan at the time...

…although he re-pivoted back to the left in the years that followed.

[Wiz Imp]

49. Correct. Neil Young, for some inexplicable reason was a supporter of Reagan himself

Yet Neil Young has made some of the best music of the past 35+ years explicitly calling out the Fascist Republicans.

[wolfie001]

113. He probably had Union relatives that got hammered

[newdeal2]

20. He might be a Trumper or he might not be

My guess is he is not. It may be annoying that he isn’t as vocal but to be honest, I don’t care that much. He is not super relevant today and the more important question is: where are the young musicians and bands and protest songs? The youth doesn’t care that much about Bob.

[wolfie001]

25. "As vocal"? Really?

He ain't said sh7t. Not a f6cking word. He's comfortable with tRUMP's tax policy that only benefits the wealthy. That may be much more accurate.

[Docreed2003]

26. If there's one thing about Bob Dylan that I can assure you, or anyone else for that matter

He's not whatever you or anyone else thinks he is and you don't know his personal politics any better than I do.
Also, where's the hate for everyone else on that soundtrack? Gene Simmons? The Commodores?

Nah, let's shit on Ole Bob. .

[wolfie001]

114. I only saw Babs and "old bob"

I try to tear down JK Rowling too because she's a nasty "BEE"

[muriel_volestrangler]

191. So the thing that got you so hopping mad was a thread that just mentioned Dylan's name

when quoting the title and content of an AP story about Streisand's new album. That's "paying homage" to you? Are you saying that anyone who wants to talk about Streisand's music should censor any mention of Dylan? What would you like his name replaced with, "Comrade Ogilvy"?

Could you provide your complete list of musicians, writers, and any other public people who don't meet your purity test, so that your eyes can be spared the pain of reading their names again on DU?

Or maybe you'd be better off writing yourself a browser extension that does this, so that it's not just on DU you'll never see Dylan's name mentioned again, but in all your web experience.

[orangecrush]

27. Just stop

[wolfie001]

117. If he ever says something to support freedom and/or Democracy and/or women's rights

and/or gay rights and/or on and on and on and on.....at least support something? Do something?

[RobinA]

199. Why Is He Obligated

to do anything? He was active in promoting democracy et al. for decades. Maybe it's his time to sit back in old age. The more relevant question is, where are the modern day Bob Dylans? Dylan is supposed to carry the torch FOREVER?

[LuckyCharms]

28. My guess would be that he does not speak out because he recognizes that

for a person in his position, the only winning move is to not play.

What do you want from him that hasn't already been said through his lyrics?

If you're that concerned, write some songs, get them published, elevate your stardom, and shout what you want to say to the rooftops.

I'm not sure why you are telling others what they should be saying, except that this is the second time I've seen you post about your boner against Bob Dylan.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

86. OP's rant-a-thon sounds a lot more personal than political.

[wolfie001]

149. Not really. I love "Shelter From the Storm"!

The dude was at his peak at the time. I wanted to wear the cool as F hat thingy and grow a straggly beard too. Love that live version on YouTube. I'd just like to see some resemblance of concern for the shitty state of America RIGHT NOW!!!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

200. Naw, I dont think you really give a hoot about Dylan either way.

I think you're just kinda bored and s-trolling around, with great success, btw. A pointless exercise to bug us poor old decrepit Dylan fans when, to start with, it's a wonder we can even feed ourselves. Congrats, wolfie. You're having fun. Carry on, friend.

[Aviation Pro]

29. Guess he blew with the wind

That seems to be the answer.

[mcar]

59. There is not one iota of evidence

about Dylan’s voting records, just something the OP “thinks” because…whatever.

This is a shameless OP.

[wolfie001]

150. LOL! You're so CORRECT!!!

Feelings have to be hurt sometimes to change a dynamic that really isn't appropriate. Labelling him a free-spirited rebel is not appropriate. More like a talented, guitar playing CPA.

[flvegan]

30. "I think he pulled the lever for tRUMP in Nov. 2024"

Upon what is this based?

I'm not really a Dylan fan, but genuinely curious.

[hlthe2b]

33. Exactly. Smearing by inference... Now who else does that?

[wolfie001]

154. Sitting on the sidelines and never saying anything about tRUMP since he rode down the escalator in 2015

Is enough evidence for me. The silent rich Germans in 1936.

[hlthe2b]

171. Well, I agree that your making assumptions based on an absence of evidence is very much like the

approach taken by the NAZIs to "prove" someone's disloyalty (and Trump's as well).

That is not what we do in a democracy or even in a civil society. You want to smear this man who has been respected by millions for decades? Then go find someone who has actually asked him the question. No one should be "guilty" unless proven otherwise sans any evidence whatsoever. And that includes an ABSENCE of evidence.

This is NOT what we do. It is despicable imo.

[gab13by13]

32. It's a hard rain a gonna fall.

I haven’t been convinced to hate Dylan.

I also was a local union rep and officer for 26 years.

[Blues Heron]

34. Are we still allowed to say "chillin' like Dylan" or is that verboten too?

[wolfie001]

163. You should only use the expression after you finish filing your taxes correctly

[Texasgal]

36. I don't care

This is silly.

[wolfie001]

164. I do

You actually live in a hellhole where women are dying from pregnancy complications because docs are afraid of being prosecuted and ruined. Rich Germans in 1936 took the same approach. Look the other way. "It's not my problem."

[Mike Nelson]

37. It's always been Dylan's style...

... to go undercover with his political observations. He's more "Ballad of a Thin Man" than "Hurricane" - maybe the "bad guys" are veiled, and Rubin Carter gets explicit (Carter being a good guy)? Personally, I think covering Cole Porter's "Don't Fence Me In" for a Ronald Reagan bio film is masterful!

[Mike Nelson]

40. Hurricane

&list=RDd-aaMYo8WAg&start_radio=1

[H2O Man]

42. Bob wrote

the first eight words of "Hurricane." Then he had a writers' block. Jacques Levy, the poet at Colgate, finished it. Bob added the music.

[Mike Nelson]

45. Ah...

... Levy was far more explicit than Dylan, then!

[H2O Man]

50. Bob was close

with Rubin at that time. His writing block was from being too close emotionally. Jacques knew what type of lyrics Dylan was looking for. There is a live version of the song with Levy's original lyrics that lawyers insisted needed to be changed, which were for the LP version. The lawyers were correct, and were aware the Patterson powers-that-be would encourage a couple people to sue.

Patty Valentine did sue, because the song made her "sad." Poor thing! Put away the bottle and tell the truth, and you might cheer up. She was the daughter of a close friend of the lead investigator on the case, and told whatever lie Vince fed to her. By the time the Caruso file was finally accessed, we knew she had lied about everything she said on the stand. More, one of the first officers on the scene told me that she was a pathological liar. Really just a pathetic liar.

The lawyers were concerned Bradley would sue. Levy did make a small mistake in one lyric mentioning him. It's worth noting that after telling the truth in '74, he would no longer lie for the police and prosecutor. He paid for that. He was firm in saying that he never saw Rubin or John Artis. And that the lead detective had called the gunmen "Muslim assassins" early on. Rubin was not Muslim, and certainly not in the Nation of Islam.

Over the years, Bello swore to a total of 14 different versions of what happened that night.

It's interesting that Malcolm was murdered by two men, wearing suits, one with a shotgun, the other with a pistol. The crime Rubin and John were convicted by two men wearing suits, one with a shotgun, the other a pistol. The man who confessed on his deathbed to being the one Rubin was accused of being was in the NOI. I could go one and on!

[Mike Nelson]

57. Thank you...

... for the additional commentary. It all fits. I did know that Patty Valentine sued. I didn't know the exact outcome, but heard she did not wind up victorious. Probably, Dylan without Levy would be less explicit, as was his style, in "naming names." Columbia Records & Tapes would be very grateful. It's a good idea to disguise your targets, in lyrics.

[H2O Man]

61. It was cast

into the trash bin as soon as it was actually heard in court. Patty assumed there would be an out-of-court settlement.

[Wiz Imp]

53. I seriously doubt that

Yes Jacques Levy was a co-writer of the song and may have written the majority of the lyrics. But there are lyrics in that song that are pure Dylan. I think it is ridiculous to think he had no part in the lyrics other than the first 8 words. From what I've read, it was a true collaboration and both writers contributed to the lyrics of the song.

[H2O Man]

60. Here's a clue:

One of us knew Rubin, and worked with his defense. One of us still has massive files on everything connected to Rubin's case. One of us can tell how much was raised at the benefit concerts.

Then there is you.

[Wiz Imp]

64. Interesting that Jacques Levy himself has seemed to contradict your claim

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/lyrically-speaking-decoding-bob-dylans-hurricane/

As Levy would later tell Clinton Heylin: “Bob wasn’t sure that he could write a song [about Carter]… He was just filled with all these feelings about Hurricane. He couldn’t make the first step. I think the first step was putting the song in a total storytelling mode. I don’t remember whose idea it was to do that. But really, the beginning of the song is like stage directions, like what you would read in a script: ‘Pistol shots ring out in a barroom night…. Here comes the story of the Hurricane.’ Boom! Titles. You know, Bob loves movies, and he can write these movies that take place in eight to ten minutes, yet seem as full or fuller than regular movies.”

[H2O Man]

65. Er, not at all.

One of us knew Jacques.

Then there is you.

[Wiz Imp]

94. 🙂‍↔️😏🙄

Whatever

[H2O Man]

106. It's okay.

There are people I know who got a guitar and learned some early Dylan before their fathers let them grow their hair long. And people have always wondered what Dylan or Lennon were saying, and relating to their songs in ways the artist may or may not have had in mind. Some think they can recognize their works, even when they were not the authors.

Obviously, Bob wanted to have a song that told "the story of the Hurricane." And with Levy, they came up with a great song. Scarlet Rivera's violin is amazing. "Desire" was Bob's biggest selling LP at least at the time.

[wolfie001]

99. Maybe you can get Charlie Kirk to autograph some memorabilia from the "masterful rayguns doc"

[Hekate]

38. Good gravy

Just let it go

[H2O Man]

43. There would seem to be

numerous other much more important things to focus on. I suppose there may actually be less important things, too -- I just can't come up with examples.

[sheshe2]

93. IKR!?

I think the answer...

The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

[wolfie001]

104. When he's covered in dirt, I'll forgive him

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Didn't lift a finger or say a word while women ARE STILL dying in nazi-repuke-run states in hospital parking lots. Is that OK by you?

[Samael13]

41. I think thats a leap

There's nothing I can really find about his politics today just about his past politics in the 60s. So I'm not sure it's fair to paint him as a trump supporter when he hasn't said anything public about supporting him

[TheProle]

44. Bob Dylan owes you nothing

[wolfie001]

100. And he can go fuck off. Oh, and JK Rowling too

Hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings. She's another wealthy nasty a-hole.

[TheProle]

132. Nah, to have hurt my feelings

I’d have to have been emotionally invested in your post.

The goalpost move to include Rowling is amusing. If this fails to gain traction, perhaps you can include Hitler and Satan to try and bolster your silly premise.

You come on back and let us know when you’ve accomplished a mere fraction of what Dylan has as a social critic, a steward of the folk tradition, a poet and a seminal figure in American, and specifically progressive American, culture.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

135. Thank you.

[wolfie001]

145. Don't care if it "gains traction" here

If someone reads it and does a bit of research, they can find out for themselves how hateful and bigoted she is. She's such a "poor, put-upon" billionairess. Very pukeworthy.

[BannonsLiver]

46. I love things that are unintentionally hilarious.

10/10

[Mike 03]

48. Thanks for the reality check.

I didn't want to call that post "ridiculous" and risk breaking a rule.

[Fiendish Thingy]

71. Speaking of unintentionally hilarious...

This thread reminds me of this song:

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They’re everywhere I tell ya!

Ya kin tell they’re Trumpers ‘cuz they don’t say nuthin’ about him!

[BannonsLiver]

143. I just keep imagining the OP having this conversation with somebody.

“Yeah, the world is on fire. Trump is destroying our democracy. Our social safety nets are being decimated. Things are very grim, But have you heard about some of the shit Bob Dylan has pulled lately? He contributed a cover song for a low budget biopic on Ronald Reagan that nobody saw. It’s unconscionable!”

[wolfie001]

158. I just visit DU and vent

I spare my family. They know where I stand. We have no f6cking idea where BD stands. Oh, have you heard? He's a free-spirit and rebels against conformity. And can balance the books on a musical empire. Of course, he has no time to be concerned with the state of America. That is currently burning to the ground.

[BannonsLiver]

205. Bless your heart.

[fujiyamasan]

92. I gotta admit this thread has me chuckling

[BannonsLiver]

137. It's even better when the lead is nuttier than squirrel shit.

[wolfie001]

151. I'm just happy you read it and maybe see some of the disconnect associated with his public persona

Kind of like KK presenting as a legal scholar.

[BannonsLiver]

209. Oh I see plenty of disconnect alright.

[Mike 03]

47. It's very hard to believe the man who wrote "Caribbean Wind" and "Brownsville Girl"

would vote for this, but of course none of us can know unless he were to tell us. And look at the other musicians he has apparently had friendships with--from Jerry Garcia and Tom Petty to Sam Shepperd, Joan Baez and Bruce Springsteen (on "We are The World" and ""Sun City" Artists Against Apartheid project).

So I'm doubting Bob Dylan voted for Trump.

[wolfie001]

152. Would be nice if he presented a shred of insight

Definitely living an enigmatic existence.

[Itchinjim]

51. Wolfie who?

[BluesRunTheGame]

54. Judas!

[wolfie001]

153. Well now you know!

I go after that foul old bag JK Rowling too. Just a heads up

[BluesRunTheGame]

52. I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table and say...

…Townes Van Zandt is the greatest living songwriter.

Wait a minute…

We haven’t heard Townes Van Zandt’s take on the current political situation.

Uhm…Townes is dead? Did Dylan kill him?

Damn.

Somebody get a loyalty oath from Steve Earl.

This shit is getting out of hand.

[Fiendish Thingy]

70. And what about Ersel Hickey?

He hasn’t spoken out against Trump either, so he must be one of ‘em

[BluesRunTheGame]

74. It's gonna be a pretty long list.

And while we’re at it, I don’t believe we’ve heard a loyalty pledge from Wolfie in the last hour or so.

[Fiendish Thingy]

75. What!?!?

This is an “All hands on deck” situation!!!

[BluesRunTheGame]

77. It's possible that he's Ted Nugent's bass player...

…and has a secret crush on Kimberly Guilfoyle. How we gonna know if he doesn’t deny it?

[Fiendish Thingy]

78. It must be true, because I read it on the internet...

…you just typed it, making a thought into reality, just like that.

[OC375]

55. Purity Control

I'm sure I'd fail a purity test for all the selfish, misguided things I've done in my life. If Dylan is some sort of standard for defining an enemy, we must surely have alot of them by now.

[Mysterian]

56. Bob Dylan is an asshole with no principles

Fleeced the hippie crowd to make a living, that's all he did.

[TnDem]

85. Sure

They all "fleeced the hippie crowd"...Jefferson Airplane sued each other, others cried over royalties, blah, blah.

Money runs the world, including old hippies.

[Mysterian]

95. Not all of us

Not nearly all of us.

[wolfie001]

121. The whole story behind "The Band's" royalty contracts

Some really got hosed. Others made off like bandits.

[wolfie001]

98. THANK YOU!!!

Toady worshipers idolizing him. Failed "hipsters" steeped in some "I'm such a rebel" fantasy as they drive to work everyday and punch a clock. That is, if they have a steady job Don't worry though, "old bob" sure has a steady income stream with those "golden" garbage disposal vocals

[mcar]

58. You think he voted for FOTUS?

You have no clue who he voted for or if he voted, but you trash an American legend because of something “you think?”

Sometimes I do not understand this place.

[Wiz Imp]

62. There is Zero evidence Bob Dylan has ever supported Donald Trump

On the other hand, he did sort of implicitly endorse Barack Obama in 2008.

"Poverty is demoralizing,'' he said. "You can't expect people to have the virtue of purity when they are poor. But we've got this guy out there now who is redefining the nature of politics from the ground up — Barack Obama. He's redefining what a politician is, so we'll have to see how things play out. Am I hopeful? Yes, I'm hopeful that things might change. Some things are going to have to."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5014367&page=1

It appears his last "political" public statement was about George Floyd's murder and came in a 2020 interview with the NY Times:

​“It sickened me no end to see George tortured to death like that,” Dylan told the newspaper.

“It was beyond ugly. Let’s hope that justice comes swift for the Floyd family and for the nation.”

https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/music/news/bob-dylan-interview-new-album-rough-and-rowdy-ways-george-floyd-a9563356.html

[Fiendish Thingy]

68. Don't let truth and reality get in the way of a vigorous recreational outrage session. Nt

[TinyBlueDot]

63. I wish we didn't learn about their politics

I wish those that did not share their political views while they are becoming famous would keep their views to themselves, like Elvis.

[wolfie001]

156. Dude was drugging himself and working with Nixon's anti-drug campaign

Hilarious open-field fumble whilst sprinting for the goal line.

[egduj]

69. He's dead to me!

But I really thought he already was.

[themaguffin]

194. Yeah, I don't care about this silly original post and will continue to listen to Dylan's music.

[highplainsdem]

72. It's silly to assume Dylan voted for Trump. Also silly to cite a hallucinating chatbot like Google's AI

Overview. Silly to ever consider it as a source.

This may come as a shock to you, but it's possible to be friends with someone without sharing their political beliefs. Joe Biden showed us that, again and again.

I appreciate the good things Dylan's done, the good music he's given us. I don't like all his music and definitely don't worship him. But I think it's ridiculous to condemn him if he isn't saying exactly what you want him to say.

[SheltieLover]

73. Agreed

[wolfie001]

107. What you fail to grasp is the totality of the situation in the US right now

Nothing is the same. The change has been the elimination of many freedoms we used to take for granted. All is not the same. He could've said or done something and not acted like everything's just swell.

[Fiendish Thingy]

124. What about the surviving Beatles? And Yoko?

Why aren’t you condemning them too- they haven’t spoken out either.

[wolfie001]

146. 2 Brits and a Japanese person? Why can't we focus on "old bob the rebel-free spirit"?

Oh, and John Lennon was killed by a white male who probably votes for tRUMP, or would if he had the opportunity.

[Fiendish Thingy]

178. They all live in the US

And at least Yoko (that “Japanese person”) for sure is a citizen.

[highplainsdem]

131. What I "fail to grasp"? You've been here nearly as long as I have, but have posted only 1/10 as much.

Most of what I've posted has been in LBN and GD, much of it OPs about news. But you assume I don't know what's going on in the US, just as you assume Dylan voted for Trump.

I see you didn't even respond to Wiz Imp's reply to you, reply 62, with quotes from Dylan praising Obama, and saying he was sickened by what was done to George Floyd. Of course those were real quotes that don't fit with your self-righteous rant against him.

[chia]

79. An OP that's an AI summary? No thanks.

I'm gonna have to add some words to my ignore list.

[Keepthesoulalive]

80. I have no dog in this fight

I don’t allow my babies to fight. He wrote one of the most influential songs during the civil rights movement. Sam Cooke supposedly said that’s a song i should have written, it sparked the song A Change Is Gonna Come. Some of the lyrics were changed so he would not offend the white audience but we are now fortunate to be able to hear it as it was originally written.

[elleng]

84. OH fer ch's sake!

Today hasn't been bad ENOUGH???

[Renew Deal]

91. Really?

Life is easier when you don't insert politics into everthing.

[Tarzanrock]

97. This song seems highly appropriate.

&list=RDNI-8V-qp5bw&start_radio=1

[scipan]

101. You've. Got. To. Be. Kidding. nt

[Jack Valentino]

105. NOT EVERYONE can be Bruce Springsteen..... !

But I'm not about to dump Dylan's legacy music on such scant evidence as this...

If he IS making some mistakes now, he's damn old now, too,
and people sometimes begin to do some strange things at that age,
(and some do that a lot younger)---

but it doesn't undo a musical legacy which has given me joy and strength
to fight the good fight.

[Skittles]

115. these lyrics remind me of every MAGAt I know

Yes, I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
You'd know what a drag it is
To see you

[wolfie001]

165. Bruce is a fearless hero rebel

Props to him!

[gab13by13]

108. Here's another Dylan song that predicted today, listen to the lyrics

?t=14

[MarineCombatEngineer]

120. One of my favorite Dylan songs, along with this one:

[MarineCombatEngineer]

111. So here's my take,

I don't give 2 fucks what a musician's politics are, if I like the music, I'm going to listen to it and comment on it here and anywhere else despite what some anonymous person on an internet chat board says.
I like Dylan, I'm from his generation, I also like some of Ted Nugent's music despite him being a complete asshole, a musician can be a dickhead but still put out good music, I also like Eric Clapton and several other RW rock musicians and that's the way it is.
If you don't like it, well, tough, get over it, there are much, much bigger problems in this country and the world than what a musician's political bent is.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

116. So I guess that we should now smear the late Tom Petty because he used Confederate flags

at some of his concerts even though he was a HUGE supporter of Pres. Obama?
At least according to your logic, that would be the thing to do right?
This fucking place sometimes.

[wolfie001]

119. If he were still alive right now, I think he would've retired that flag

I hope you're not driving around with one hanging from the back of your truck?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

123. Maybe, maybe not

but the fact remains that he often used that flag as a back drop for his concerts. like this one:

[wolfie001]

125. That's from 1985 or so

Last edited Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:13 AM - Edit history (1)

That would be 40 years ago. How do you think Petty would've reacted to tRUMP? Would he have played at Mar-a-Lardo like Skid Rock?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

126. I don't know and neither do you, after all, he is dead, so he can't say whether or not he would.

This has to be one of the most moronic threads here in a while and just to clarify, I'm certainly not calling you a moron, I'm calling this thread moronic and uncalled for, there is no proof that the great Bob Dylan is a supporter of RW politics and I will continue to post and comment on any musician here and elsewhere despite what you may think of them.

[wolfie001]

147. Corrected my spelling. lol

I will always go after BD because he just slides by and doesn't give a shit. Many rich Germans in 1936 did the exact same thing. Didn't want to rock the boat. Didn't want to offend a mass-murderer. I guess you're just not too concerned about all of the suffering tRUMP is causing. I'm gonna act and you read my post. That makes me happy. You've at least thought about it. Just like the 4th wall in a Mel Brooks movie. "Break the Fake"

[Tommy Carcetti]

174. He already did, long before his death.

https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/tom-petty-on-past-confederate-flag-use-it-was-downright-stupid-177619/

[gab13by13]

118. There is a tell who hates Dylan

Go to Wiki and Google the part about Dylan being awarded the Nobel Prize in literature and see the list of red necks who were outraged that a Hippie was given such a prestigious award.

I grew up in the 60's, played in a band even. In the 60's people were pretty much either long hairs or whiskey people. I hung with both but long hairs were my preference. I think the whiskey people were early stage Magats.

[wolfie001]

166. Maybe when he read and saw the hate, he shied away instead of speaking out against it

A great man would have stood his ground and argued back citing facts and evidence. Not disappearing.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

134. So what if he's a rich dude,

he got there on his talent, he earned it the hard way, not like Been A Dick Donald who was born with a silver dick in his mouth thanks to daddy.

[LastDemocratInSC]

128. And he switched from nylon strings to steel strings...

on an electric guitar in 19 sixty something, what an infidel.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

129. LOL!!

I see what you did there.
Satire at it's best.

[Kali]

185. !

[NBachers]

130. You do you. I'll do me.

[wolfie001]

167. lol

Glad you read the post. Many great insights.

[Ilikepurple]

136. You found way to distract a certain demographic from criticizing others as nonsensical or kooks

At least for a moment. Archie! They’re coming for Dylan. Circle the wagons Edith and bring none of that dingbat music you listen to. Ah, those were the days.

[wolfie001]

168. God, that show was so great!

Sammy Davis Jr. was on an episode.

[GenThePerservering]

139. I've always thought Dylan was over hyped

but he has a right to contribute to any projects he likes.

[comradebillyboy]

140. Purity Testing Bob Dylan? Give me a break!

[wolfie001]

170. Just wondering why he hasn't thrown anyone a "life-preserver".......

.......during this long-drawn out sinking of the great ship USS America. Taking freedom, justice and some sense of fairness with it.

[delisen]

141. Dylan never claimed to be a revolutionary.

He wrote songs that resonated with people hungry for revolutionary change for a more just and peaceful world.

He wrote about what he felt and thought, It resonated. That was his contribution.

[wolfie001]

144. I grew up during his era. That IS NOT how he was presented in the media

He was given "the persona" of a true, well-intentioned open free spirit who rebelled against the establishment. That was a PHONY AS F6CK CON JOB! He was a musician who organized his music and knew how to handle the music business. He had beaucoup talent in the early part of his career. Zero "rebel" in real life. He basically was a talented CPA who could play guitar well and had a voice until about 1988. Some "rebel"

[gab13by13]

157. I grew up in the 60's, played in a band even.

Were you a long hair or a whiskey people?

Our newest Democratic head of the Oversight committee, Garcia, was a Republican in his younger days, because of Reagan.

Oh dear, what should we do about that?

[wolfie001]

159. I of course would welcome any former republican that turned Democratic

More have gone the other way because of $ and opportunity. I think that's why BD keeps his mouth shut. The $ and opportunity.

[johnnyfins]

155. I know that this thread is about Bob

and his contribution to this Reagan movie. The thing is, it doesn't matter. Quaid is going to absolutely SUCK as Ronald Reagan. And the movie will SUCK because of it. That's my prediction.

[wolfie001]

169. I didn't even realize the movie hasn't come out yet

I wrote off "Queeg" when he spoke positively about tRUMP. He's a POS to me forever.

[BannonsLiver]

188. It's already been released, like a year ago.

I haven’t watched it but I’m sure you’re right that it does suck.

[Wiz Imp]

201. The rating for the movie on rotten tomatoes is 18%

It was nominated for 6 Golden Raspberry awards and won for Worst Supporting Actor for Jon Voight

So yes, the overwhelming consensus is it totally sucked.

[Doodley]

172. For the OP and those who agree, where do you shop? Which supermarket? Which online stores?

What home improvement store? Where do you buy your clothes? What internet browser do you use? What phone, TV and wifi service providers do you have? What postal services do you use? What brand of gas station do you use? What air conditioning do you use? What car do you drive? I'd love to know if there's any hypocracy there.

[MineralMan]

173. He had me at "Masters of War"

When I was 16 years old. Case closed.

[Torchlight]

175. I'll probably just keep separating the art and the artist

otherwise, I'd never listen to Wagner or Clapton either.

[paleotn]

176. No one can be apolitical anymore. Not now.

In the face of open fascism, that’s bullshit. Hate to sound like dubya but there’s no middle ground.

[Tommy Carcetti]

177. Not everyone's going to be an activist.

That's just how it is.

[Happy Hoosier]

187. IMO Bob Dylan has always been over-rated and a bit of an asshole.

Went to see him live a couple years ago because a buddy reall wanted to go and didn't want to go alone. It was a terrible show. He mumbbled through the set.... completely unintelligible. ZERO interaction with the crowd. He came out, sat on a stool. PLayed the set list, left. The crowd enthusiastically greeted him. They didn't get anything in return.... not even a wave. As you might expect, the crowd's enthusiam plummeted. Most lifeless live performance I've ever attended.

Meh.

Not a surprise to me that he has drifted right.

Fuck 'im.

[BannonsLiver]

189. Update: The comments are equally unintentionally hilarious!

“I didn’t know that he had drifted right.”

“I’m done with Dylan then.”

“Bob Dylan is an asshole with no principles.”


😂😂😂😂

[themaguffin]

192. Oh ok everybody someone on the Internet "thinks" something about Dylan, so go burn your records. Oof.

[betsuni]

193. Yeah, if Bob comes around here wanting any homage he can pay for it himself.

[Blue_Adept]

196. This was certainly a way to kill a few minutes during lunch

This all just feels like a personal beef than anything founded in logic.

anyone can post whatever they want, but good gravy your time in this with all the replies would have been better spent calling or emailing your senators and reps about various issues. It'd register more than what you're posting here.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

198. He should e-mail his representatives about his animus towards Bob Dylan.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

203. Why stop with an email?

If he really cared he'd be out protesting! Boycott! Burn Dylan's records and CDs and MP3s! Build an effigy and kick it!

Start a revolution, dammit!

[Tarzanrock]

204. It would probably be more helpful ...

discussing it while reclining on his psychiatrist's couch.

[Tarzanrock]

202. Dylan 'overhyped' -- yeah, sure!

Let's see anybody (any writer, any poet, any author, any rock star, any screenwriter, any lyricist -- anyone) take out a pen and a writing pad and create poetry like this:

Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie (Live at Town Hall, New York, NY - April 1963 - Official Audio)

?list=RDqnWXunQhLXY

Dylan was 20 or 21 years old when he authored this masterpiece. Anybody who knows jackshit about poetry or who ever took a high school or college class on poetry or creative writing immediately recognizes this as a timeless poetic masterpiece -- the equal of any great poet.

[Wiz Imp]

207. I guess we need to boycott Anthony Hopkins as well

After all, he "paid homage" to a horrible evil President by portraying Richard Nixon in a biopic. He also portrayed a brutally evil serial killer in Silence Of the Lambs. And of course, Trump apparently loves Hopkins' portrayal of Hannibal Lecter as he is obsessed with him and always calls him "great". Never mind that Hopkins, like Dylan, keeps his political opinions to himself.

He did say this:

Trump, who is now the official GOP presidential nominee, has repeatedly referred to the character at rallies, usually during parts of his speeches when he demonizes immigrants.

“As if he is real?” Hopkins asked during a conversation that was ostensibly about his upcoming project “Those About To Die.”

“I didn’t know that,” Hopkins continued, reportedly while laughing. “Hannibal, that’s a long time ago that movie. God, that was over 30 years ago. I’m shocked and appalled what you’ve told me about Trump.”

but that's far from a repudiation of Trump. Of course it probably gives a hint at where he stands just like Dylan's support for Obama and his comments on George Floyd's murder give a strong hint where Dylan stands (Hint: it's not pro-Trump)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

211. I liked his work with Johnny Cash.