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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGillibrand's disgusting comments about Zohran Mamdani on Brian Lehrer's show
This clip features excerpts of Kristen Gillibrand's radio interview with Brian Lehrer. What is truly remarkable about it is the way she, a non-Jewish person, presumes to lecture Brian Lehrer (who is Jewish, and is a highly respected radio host here in NY). As Lehrer pushes back on her outrageous claims, the interview goes from Gillibrand stating (falsely) that Mamdani supports "global jihad" and violence against Jews, to falsely claiming Mamdani said "globalize the intifada (no, he never said it, he was asked specifically to denounce the phrase, and he declined to do so), to eventually Gillibrand admitting she had no evidence on which t o base these claims, yet continued to imply that Mamdani was somehow anti-Semitic. This is just vile!

Prairie Gates
(5,706 posts)Why rehash it yet again this Monday morning?
For your reference: https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20437514
markpkessinger
(8,809 posts). . . but I think I still have the right to post about it.
Prairie Gates
(5,706 posts)Let's all have another 200 post mosh pit, by all means.
Autumn
(48,165 posts)Prairie Gates
(5,706 posts)Autumn
(48,165 posts)Shellback Squid
(9,529 posts)lighten up Francis..
Trueblue1968
(18,641 posts)Shellback Squid
(9,529 posts)PatSeg
(50,622 posts)Plus this one has a video. I have no problem with it.
liberalhistorian
(20,889 posts)you're certainly free to just not read it! There should be no limit to the calling out of hateful ignorant racism and xenophobia, including when spewed by Democrats.
Autumn
(48,165 posts)Thanks for posting.
delisen
(7,109 posts)This appears to be a podcast wherein clips from the Brian Lehrer interview with the senator are being discussed and commented upon.
This seems to be a form of propaganda. Will you please identify the actual podcast and the persons discussing the clips from the Lehrer interview?
markpkessinger
(8,809 posts).I thought the person commenting on the exchange between Lehrer and Gillibrand made some excellent points. Not everything we discuss here has to be from a major, well-known source. And as for it being "propaganda," are you suggesting that Gillibrand didn't say these things on Lehrer's show?
delisen
(7,109 posts)Some responders here seem to be mistaking-attributing to Brian Lehrer words and comments actually being spoken by the third party or the actual source.
markpkessinger
(8,809 posts). . . sorry if that confused you.
markpkessinger
(8,809 posts)My apologies. I did not make the distinction between the person commenting on the interview, and the speakers in the interview itself. (I had posted this elsewhere, where I did make that distinction.)
But it's clear enough when you listen to the video when it's Brian Lehrer speaking -- his voice is pretty distinctive -- and when it is the commenter. And Lehrer certainly provides some pushback to her statements. So there was nothing at all misleading about my OP, and I'm not responsible for any misinterpretation by those who watch the video.
delisen
(7,109 posts)I still think that a video about a Democrat by Vausch should be identified.
delisen
(7,109 posts)Later in his video he bashes New York City Democrats as being worse than Republicans, and even manages to bring in Hilary Clinton for criticism.
He has doctored parts of his excepts from the the Brian Lehrer show to speed up some of Gillibrands statements while leaving Lehrers at regular speed which has the effect of making Gillibrand sound very nervous and on edge.
The Brian Lehrer tape is available so I dont know why you selected this characters show to post.
Vausch is a product of Beverly Hills, and probably makes his money by being edgy, so I dont know whether his stances on child porn, lowering the edge of consent are designed to just get him clicks, fame, and money or whether he is wedded to these views.
I still do not see where you distinguished in your op between Vausc and Brian Lehrer
H2O Man
(77,373 posts)that you made this post. The topic is part of an on-going conversation. It's not somehow dead in the water. If a previous OP/thread had over 200 responses, that would suggest there is interest in the topic.
Thank you for posting this!
SocialDemocrat61
(5,185 posts)LOL
Shellback Squid
(9,529 posts)
SocialDemocrat61
(5,185 posts)Shellback Squid
(9,529 posts)read up on the event to educate yourself
SocialDemocrat61
(5,185 posts)Here are a few articles from different sources that discuss the events back then. Its very obvious that this was not the act of just one person but an highly coordinated effort by the democratic caucus.
https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/al-franken-urged-to-resign-kamala-harris/
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/senators-al-franken-resignation
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/363759-al-frankens-swift-fall-a-timeline/
delisen
(7,109 posts)Abuse he considered her a friend.Gillibrand had been at the time a tireless worker for women in the military who were exploited and abused a, both sexually and otherwise.
I was amazed at the time that many democrats were not aware of her work. Although I wrote to Frankenstein urging him to not resign, i could fully understand Gillibrands reaction.
In his book Frankensteinand focus their spoke of his disappointment in Gillibrand because he considered her a friend. However he clearly pointed to Schumer as the partys powerful leader who demanded his resignation.
For whatever reason many democrats have given Schumer a pass but focus all their anger on Gillibrand.
SocialDemocrat61
(5,185 posts)when a woman can be blamed instead?
DFW
(58,505 posts)This calling Al Franken "Frankenstein" is a result of some computer fill-in program getting busy on its own, and not your personal opinion of Al.
Yes, Al blames Schumer, and would hate to serve again in a Senate where Schumer was the Democratic leader. But he also blames each and every Democratic Senator at the time who never apologized to him. Franni hates them all, and Al pays much attention to how she feels. If you think Al bears any kind of a grudge, just talk to Franni for ten minutes on the subject. Al is downright indifferent by comparison, and I promise you, he is anything but indifferent. He has not "moved on and put it behind him," no matter what assumptions are made by those who don't know him, and I have read a few.
One of the main reasons Al never tried to get his Senate seat back is because he would have had to look at and work with colleagues who said about him what they did. These are fellow Democratic Senators with whom he shared--and still shares--great political affinity. That so many of them have not apologized is something I find highly depressing, and a black stain on those who were there at the time, and think there was nothing wrong with what they did and said. One of them pulled a stunt so evil and dirty (subsequent to his resignation), it is an immense credit to Al that he did not try to sully the name of that senator after being on the receiving end of such cynicism. At this point, he doesn't talk about that jab any more. Some of his friends are not so willing to hold back.
You are very generous to blame the posters computer, especially since it happened twice and wasnt corrected, even after your comment. But I suppose not everyone takes the time to reread their own comments and check for these kind of errors before hitting Post.
jaymac
(31 posts)She. made her fame by challenging the military chain of command to adjudicate rape and harassment charges, but she excoriated Franken for a comic spoof and we lost a formidable voice in the senate. she's been wrong before and she'll be wrong again..............don't let her get away with it again
BonnieJW
(2,977 posts)She shows up and bitches to give the illusion of doing her job. She's done nothing since taking office in 2009.
SocialDemocrat61
(5,185 posts)and veterans doesnt count?
Getting the military to change policy and procedures for sexual harassment to protect women doesnt count?
What do you consider an accomplishment?
atreides1
(16,786 posts)But with the current administration all of that is going to go away. Do you believe that with Hegseth in charge that those policies will remain in effect?
And now she's either a bigot or another paid hack for AIPAC!!!
SocialDemocrat61
(5,185 posts)And the re authorization of funding for the 9/11 responders is coming up too.
Prairie Gates
(5,706 posts)Kinda true though I gotta say!
liberalhistorian
(20,889 posts)xenophobia should always be called out, even when spewed by Democrats.
SocialDemocrat61
(5,185 posts)and groping women.
Emile
(35,997 posts)leftstreet
(36,867 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,294 posts)asking for her apology? Where is the media asking her to condemn the words and implications of her responses?
Waiting
SocialDemocrat61
(5,185 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,294 posts)Gillibrand and the other Dems engaging in disgraceful islamophobic remarks and slurs. Some like Bernie and Van Hollen and Murphy have spoken out but I want them to name the names. Im disgusted by the behavior of members of the party I once was proud of.
SocialDemocrat61
(5,185 posts)They have pushed a lot of misinformation about Mamdani without any fact checking. Now they are playing a gotcha game with a lot of democrats. If they support Mamdani, they are antisemitic commies. If they don't they are establishment Islamophobes.
Nanjeanne
(6,294 posts)Interviews. He is engaging and positive yet he doesnt parse his words and he responds to those gotcha questions with very savvy understanding of what they try to elicit. He doesnt word salad but he doesnt fall into their traps either.
vanessa_ca
(301 posts)So thats what $1,000,000 of contributions from a special interest group sounds like.
She sounds genuinely unhinged. Vile.
Nixie
(17,754 posts)
vanessa_ca
(301 posts)Ping Tung
(3,046 posts)She may not be a fool but I do think she is, at best, an opportunist and donation seeker.
AStern
(456 posts)She should be ashamed of herself.
And I'm going to start listening to his show.
David__77
(24,310 posts)Passages
(3,261 posts)It will then begin to make sense.
aocommunalpunch
(4,518 posts)Nothing to see here.
Prairie Gates
(5,706 posts)Can I get all three at the top of GD?
Pris
(146 posts)Schumer made Franken step down.
Gillibrand has been a great senator and she agrees with Mamdani's priorities.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken
It was like a scene out of a movie, Franken added.
I couldnt believe it, Franken said, according to the magazine. I asked him for due process and he said no.
A spokesman for Schumer confirmed the ultimatum but claimed that Schumer never threatened to rally other Democrats against Franken.
SocialDemocrat61
(5,185 posts)😉
Torchlight
(5,138 posts)Hipper. Fresh.
Pris
(146 posts)Damaging female officials who have successfully led legislation to stop sexual harrassment and assault in the military is wrong. Not only that Gillibrand is in SUPPORT of Mamdani's goals for New York City
This post is a hit piece to damage a Democratic Senator.
Pris
(146 posts)markpkessinger
(8,809 posts). . . it doesn't change what she said.
And while you're extremely upset about criticism of Gillibrand, you seem to be find with the fact that she has deliberately tried to slander Mamdani, who has far more support among New York Democratic voters than does her preferred candidate!
Pris
(146 posts)Except for one phrase that is used that is offensive to Jewish people and the Democratic Senator wants clarfication (as does teh Democratic Speaker fo the House).
The video in this OP is altered.
This is a hit piece on a female Democratic Senator.
This entire thread should be removed.
markpkessinger
(8,809 posts)Pris
(146 posts)Gillibrand is a senator who does great work.
Democrat and female.
The mob mentality here is rooted in sexism.
Response to Pris (Reply #59)
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Rhiannon12866
(239,140 posts)
markpkessinger
(8,809 posts). . . a revulsion to a blatant Islamophobe who made false allegations against a politician she happens to dislike.
markpkessinger
(8,809 posts). . . He himself never used the words, "globalize the intifada." He was asked whether he would denounce the phrase. He declined to do so, and has since given his reasons for declining. He made it clear in his clarification that there is no place for anti-Semitism in New York.
As for the criticism of Senator Gillibrand, the mere fact that she is an elected Democrat and a woman does not place her beyond criticism. She is not currently running for office, and the rules of this site do NOT prohibit any and all criticism of elected Democrats. And Cuomo was a Democratic candidate, not a nominee! This was a Democratic primary!
BTW, the final results of the ranked choice reallocations are in. It's Mamdani by 56& to Cuomo's 44%!
angrychair
(10,896 posts)Or taken out of context. I also have not heard her clarify her comments.
Its disheartening and very troubling that so many are so quick to label people as antisemitic because of even the slightest criticism of what Israel is doing.
Throwing that label around so haphazardly causes it to not only lose meaning but also builds up resentment.