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allegorical oracle

(5,232 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:12 AM Yesterday

DOJ issues directive to strip naturalized citizens of citizenship

The Trump administration has codified its efforts to strip some Americans of their US citizenship in a recently published justice department memo that directs attorneys to prioritize denaturalization for naturalized citizens who commit certain crimes.

The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.

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According to the memo, those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases. And the government has a lighter burden of proof in civil cases than they do in criminal ones.

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On 13 June, a judge ordered the revocation of the citizenship of Elliott Duke. Duke is a US military veteran originally from the UK who was convicted for distributing child sexual abuse material and had not disclosed the crime during the naturalization process.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/30/trump-birthright-citizenship-naturalized-citizens

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DOJ issues directive to strip naturalized citizens of citizenship (Original Post) allegorical oracle Yesterday OP
This means Elon and Melania should have their naturalization stripped. travelingthrulife Yesterday #1
Eloon was my first thought RandomNumbers Yesterday #10
Exactly Rebl2 Yesterday #13
Wouldn't this include Melania? OLDMDDEM Yesterday #2
Will not fly..... Lovie777 Yesterday #4
You mean that super model with the IQ of Einstein? Of course not. allegorical oracle Yesterday #5
You can't have a lawyer? underpants Yesterday #3
Not only that, but you can be punished a second time for a crime you allegorical oracle Yesterday #7
Good points. Geesh. underpants Yesterday #12
Because the question isn't have you committed a crime you haven't had a trial for EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #15
I don't think it means Disaffected Yesterday #9
I didn't know they could do that. underpants Yesterday #11
Then why did you say it? Disaffected Yesterday #14
So no lawyer if you're poor. berniesandersmittens 23 hrs ago #17
So it seems. Disaffected 22 hrs ago #18
DOJ memo: dalton99a Yesterday #6
DOJ is itself committing crimes listed under #1 and #2. Number 10 is a generic allegorical oracle Yesterday #8
FWIW Questions on naturalization application dalton99a Yesterday #16

RandomNumbers

(18,718 posts)
10. Eloon was my first thought
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:42 AM
Yesterday

Not sure of the details with Melania.

But it is well documented that Eloon was an illegal immigrant for at least a few months. "illegal" enough, that is, if someone is doing the same thing today and their skin is the wrong color, Trump would boot them as a "criminal" and possibly send them off to a torture prison.

Lovie777

(19,100 posts)
4. Will not fly.....
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:19 AM
Yesterday

DOJ is extremely corrupt which believes that they don’t have to follow any laws nor the Constitution.

underpants

(191,197 posts)
3. You can't have a lawyer?
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:17 AM
Yesterday

How can you not have a lawyer?

I can’t believe the President of UVa was forced out

Unbelievable

allegorical oracle

(5,232 posts)
7. Not only that, but you can be punished a second time for a crime you
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:26 AM
Yesterday

committed in another country but failed to admit during your naturalization here. Why would people think to admit that prior offense if they figured they already paid that penalty years earlier?

EdmondDantes_

(564 posts)
15. Because the question isn't have you committed a crime you haven't had a trial for
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 11:00 AM
Yesterday

Same as when you apply for a job and they ask if you've had a criminal conviction.

Disaffected

(5,710 posts)
9. I don't think it means
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:42 AM
Yesterday

you cannot have a lawyer - it means you are not entitled to have a lawyer appointed for you if you cannot afford one(?)

Disaffected

(5,710 posts)
18. So it seems.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 12:58 PM
22 hrs ago

But it is my understanding in US law, the state will assign a lawyer if need-be only in criminal cases, not civil(?).

dalton99a

(89,073 posts)
6. DOJ memo:
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:24 AM
Yesterday

Prioritizing Denaturalization

The Department of Justice may institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation.” 8 U.S.C. § 1451(a). The benefits of civil denaturalization include the government’s ability to revoke the citizenship of individuals who engaged in the commission of war crimes, extrajudicial killings, or other serious human rights abuses; to remove naturalized criminals, gang members, or, indeed, any individuals convicted of crimes who pose an ongoing threat to the United States; and to prevent convicted terrorists from returning to U.S. soil or traveling internationally on a U.S. passport. At a fundamental level, it also supports the overall integrity of the naturalization program by ensuring that those who unlawfully procured citizenship, including those who obtained it through fraud or concealment of material information, do not maintain the benefits of the unlawful procurement.

The Civil Division shall prioritize and maximally pursue denaturalization proceedings in all cases permitted by law and supported by the evidence. To promote the pursuit of all viable denaturalization cases available under 8 U.S.C. § 1451 and maintain the integrity of the naturalization system while simultaneously ensuring an appropriate allocation of resources, the Civil Division has established the following categories of priorities for denaturalization cases:

1. Cases against individuals who pose a potential danger to national security, including those with a nexus to terrorism, espionage, or the unlawful export from the United States of sensitive goods, technology, or information raising national security concerns;

2. Cases against individuals who engaged in torture, war crimes, or other human rights violations;

3. Cases against individuals who further or furthered the unlawful enterprise of criminal gangs, transnational criminal organizations, and drug cartels;

4. Cases against individuals who committed felonies that were not disclosed during the naturalization process;

5. Cases against individuals who committed human trafficking, sex offenses, or violent crimes;

6. Cases against individuals who engaged in various forms of financial fraud against the United States (including Paycheck Protection Program (“PPP”) loan fraud and Medicaid/Medicare fraud);

7. Cases against individuals who engaged in fraud against private individuals, funds, or corporations;

8. Cases against individuals who acquired naturalization through government corruption, fraud, or material misrepresentations, not otherwise addressed by another priority category;

9. Cases referred by a United States Attorney’s Office or in connection with pending criminal charges, if those charges do not fit within one of the other priorities; and

10. Any other cases referred to the Civil Division that the Division determines to be sufficiently important to pursue.

These categories are intended to guide the Civil Division in prioritizing which cases to pursue; however, these categories do not limit the Civil Division from pursuing any particular case, nor are they listed in a particular order of importance. Further, the Civil Division retains the discretion to pursue cases outside of these categories as it determines appropriate. The assignment of denaturalization cases may be made across sections or units based on experience, subject-matter expertise, and the overall needs of the Civil Division.


https://www.justice.gov/civil/media/1404046/dl
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