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senseandsensibility

(22,692 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 02:08 PM 18 hrs ago

This is why we are in the nightmare we're in

The fact that the white house "press corps" did not get up and walk out when Leavitt said this in response to a question about the CBO estimate minutes ago is why I blame them more than any other entity:

"This is one of the most fiscally conservative pieces of legislation that has ever made its way through Capitol Hill."

They are not journalists. They are enablers.

And of course, walking out is more than justified after the countless lies told to them from that podium, but they are even too chicken to keep asking the same question until they are not lied to.

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This is why we are in the nightmare we're in (Original Post) senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago OP
Weak as water - the press serves the G.O.P. Owner Class BoRaGard 18 hrs ago #1
Depends on how they report it mahina 18 hrs ago #2
Same in Congress.. Permanut 18 hrs ago #3
No I agree senseandsensibility 18 hrs ago #4
I wait and wait for just one White House Press Corps reporter to stand up and speak out against the lies spewed daily. Gimpyknee 17 hrs ago #5
That would make a strong national emotional impact if they did all or mostly all walk out. Uncle Joe 17 hrs ago #6
You're welcome, Uncle Joe! senseandsensibility 16 hrs ago #7
My question would have been: If that is true, why does it add $3-4 trillion to the deficit. LoisB 16 hrs ago #8
Their bill is nothing but welfare for the rich. HeartsCanHope 16 hrs ago #9
The press has been reduced to Whitehouse stenographers. Buddyzbuddy 16 hrs ago #10
They had multiple times they could have Hornedfrog2000 16 hrs ago #11
There was time to examine most of the issues proposed by this legislation... BurnDoubt 15 hrs ago #12
I read articles that discussed specific pieces of the legislation maxsolomon 15 hrs ago #17
Mea Culpa BurnDoubt 13 hrs ago #23
Sorry, I'm in a really cynical place right now. maxsolomon 13 hrs ago #24
I get it. Standing-room only here on the sane patch. I'll try to mind my elbows. BurnDoubt 6 hrs ago #25
Gee, I thought it was 30 years of Conservative Propaganda Media maxsolomon 15 hrs ago #13
Is that your Hammer on that Nail-head? BurnDoubt 15 hrs ago #15
You don't think the corporate media is part of that? senseandsensibility 15 hrs ago #18
I'm skeptical of laying it at the feet of "The Media". I think Corporate Media has become largely irrelevant. maxsolomon 14 hrs ago #22
Our Press Corpse rightly mocked Baghdad Bob Hassler 15 hrs ago #14
Oh, KKKaroline, No! BurnDoubt 15 hrs ago #16
It is bdamomma 15 hrs ago #19
Yep, the M$M is 100% in on it the second TFG kicked AP out they all should've left and did a presser with Jeffries uponit7771 14 hrs ago #20
If they don't (and they don't) expose the lies...we have nothing. spanone 14 hrs ago #21

BoRaGard

(5,975 posts)
1. Weak as water - the press serves the G.O.P. Owner Class
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 02:25 PM
18 hrs ago

and shovels snow and ash out to the public

Permanut

(7,227 posts)
3. Same in Congress..
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 02:34 PM
18 hrs ago

Every Dem should have walked out with Representative Green.

I know, off topic but enabling seems common these days.

senseandsensibility

(22,692 posts)
4. No I agree
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 02:38 PM
18 hrs ago

I don't like the way other Dems treated Green, who showed more courage than all of them. Also off topic, but a day or two ago I was watching a politician being interviewed on Capital Hill and a figure walked by in the background, alone, using a cane. It was Rep. Green and he just seemed so isolated. It made me sad.

Gimpyknee

(244 posts)
5. I wait and wait for just one White House Press Corps reporter to stand up and speak out against the lies spewed daily.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 03:29 PM
17 hrs ago

Uncle Joe

(62,133 posts)
6. That would make a strong national emotional impact if they did all or mostly all walk out.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 03:33 PM
17 hrs ago

Thanks for the thread senseandsensibility

senseandsensibility

(22,692 posts)
7. You're welcome, Uncle Joe!
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 03:46 PM
16 hrs ago

I know I sound like a broken record but I refuse to become numb to the damage they are doing.

HeartsCanHope

(1,093 posts)
9. Their bill is nothing but welfare for the rich.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:36 PM
16 hrs ago

The poor are undeserving of our tax dollars, but the rich are? B.S! And how is putting us deeper in debt "fiscally responsible"?
Leavitt is disgusting. A gold digger that got her rich old man to buy her a job in a corrupt government to tell lies. Shame on her, shame on them all!

Buddyzbuddy

(1,114 posts)
10. The press has been reduced to Whitehouse stenographers.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:40 PM
16 hrs ago

Integrity, critical thought and tenacity are terms that are foreign to the press. They are incapable of criticizing Congress because they are just as guilty of cowardice and ambition. They are Knucklehead and Jerry Mahoney to Leavitt's, Paul Winchell.

BurnDoubt

(725 posts)
12. There was time to examine most of the issues proposed by this legislation...
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:47 PM
15 hrs ago

and give some specifics as to how people will be affected by the individual parts. But, instead we focused on the daily drivel dribble and shared opinions where facts were what was needed.
The Media has given up even trying to appear unbiased.
The first mistake was adopting the Administration branding of this coup-in-the-box as the Big Beautiful Bill. Way to pitch-in on pitching the bill.

maxsolomon

(36,784 posts)
17. I read articles that discussed specific pieces of the legislation
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:34 PM
15 hrs ago

I read multiple articles about the Parliamentarian ruling parts ineligible for a Reconciliation Bill, but, you know, I subscribe to the hated New York Times and I read DU.

Since much of this was voted on overnight over the weekend, I don't know where you think this "time to examine most of the issues" existed.

And you do know most Americans don't read newspapers or watch national television news at all, right? Local news is mayhem, sports and weather.

maxsolomon

(36,784 posts)
24. Sorry, I'm in a really cynical place right now.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:13 PM
13 hrs ago

I know I should be more optimistic...

BurnDoubt

(725 posts)
25. I get it. Standing-room only here on the sane patch. I'll try to mind my elbows.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 02:08 AM
6 hrs ago

I'm unprepared for dealing with this world that has evolved around us, having learned long ago I'm unlikely to change any minds out there and that hatred and violence never delivers an answer Humans can abide.
My initial point was to mean that I'm disappointed that the illuminati on our side of this miasma need to be more present at the forefront. We have exceptionally learned minds in our camp, and if we could have a group that stands ready to factually and unrelentingly refute the drivel squeegied-out every day by the Forces Of Evil. Turn back their shit-nozzle on them and "flood the zone"...
every issue, every day. Personalize it to their frame-of-reference and repeat, repeat, repeat... until they think it's their name... that's what got them there. Maybe that's what might bring them home.
The Media, though is a problem. They have NEVER asked hard questions, and NEVER asked a good follow-up question and insisted on an answer. Don't take MAGA as an answer. (I wanted them to explain what America would look like after the "Greatification&quot .
AND... PUSH BACK ON KKKAROLINE. MAKE HER ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS UNTIL YOU ARE SATISFIED. MAKE GOOD TROUBLE. FORCE THEM TO OWN THEIR DECEIT.

maxsolomon

(36,784 posts)
13. Gee, I thought it was 30 years of Conservative Propaganda Media
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:55 PM
15 hrs ago

brainwashing millions and millions of selfish, uneducated Americans 24/7 so they'd elect horrible people to control all 3 branches of government.



maxsolomon

(36,784 posts)
22. I'm skeptical of laying it at the feet of "The Media". I think Corporate Media has become largely irrelevant.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 06:19 PM
14 hrs ago

They don't reach the mass of American voters any longer. RW Propaganda Media - AM radio, Fox, Sinclair, internet misinformation: that does.

bdamomma

(68,677 posts)
19. It is
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:42 PM
15 hrs ago

called "reserve socialism" they are stealing from us and giving it to that 1%. Fuck the Billionaires/Millionaires and to this regime.

uponit7771

(93,021 posts)
20. Yep, the M$M is 100% in on it the second TFG kicked AP out they all should've left and did a presser with Jeffries
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:43 PM
14 hrs ago
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