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Native

(7,162 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 03:05 PM 17 hrs ago

The Abominable Sadism of "Alligator Auschwitz"

Slated to open this week, Florida’s new detention center will have more than a little in common with a Nazi concentration camp.

Floridians know what it’s like to wait weeks or months for government aid after a natural disaster. But amazingly, Governor Ron DeSantis has worked with federal officials to create a harsh outdoor tent-based detention camp in the Everglades that state officials are proudly calling “Alligator Alcatraz.” They will probably finish this concentration camp for 3,000 detained migrants, complete with showers, this week. It’s expected to cost about $450 million a year, and will be funded using FEMA funds.

The people who wind up there will be mainly chosen by ethnicity, and almost certainly be convicted of no crime. The lawmakers’ goal is not merely confinement but suffering. At least the poor souls who wound up at Alcatraz, California’s infamous island prison, got due process. They were deterred from escaping by freezing cold waters and the rumor of sharks; these prisoners will be in mosquito-infested swampland surrounded by alligators and pythons. (Trump wanted to reopen Alcatraz, which was transformed from a prison to a museum about 40 years ago; now he is getting his own version.)

But Republicans are bragging about their cruel ingenuity, and using it as a fundraising tool. The Florida Republican Party is selling “Alligator Alcatraz” swag (I’m not linking; trust me). The camp, without air-conditioning, is expected to open this week, as temperatures top 100 degrees.

Not surprisingly, Trump is expected to attend the opening of his “Alligator Alcatraz” on Tuesday. Luckily, a wide coalition of Florida environmentalists, Indian tribal leaders, immigrant activists and clergy are expected to be out in force, despite the swampy heat. We can’t be numbed into complacency by the constant onslaught of indecency. We’re entering a new realm of cruelty porn.
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CrispyQ

(39,897 posts)
1. Isn't 3000 the daily quota Stephen Miller has set for ICE? So this center will hold one day's worth of detained people?
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 03:09 PM
17 hrs ago

Isn't there a bottom to this GD fucking rabbit hole?

Deuxcents

(22,867 posts)
3. I've asked that a hundred times now. Things just keep getting more and more inhumane and diabolical
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 03:18 PM
17 hrs ago

Now, I keep asking..will we survive this madness and get back on track and how long will that take?

Native

(7,162 posts)
4. Yes, that's the current daily quota. And they'll be able to restock & export migrants daily at this concentration camp.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 03:20 PM
17 hrs ago

As DeathSantis said, "We've got a massive runway right behind us where any of the federal assets, if they want to fly these people back to their own country, they can do it, it's a one stop shop,"

young_at_heart

(3,946 posts)
5. He is proud!
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 03:34 PM
16 hrs ago

I can feel the pride in his voice as he says this. I find myself once again comparing the GOP with the Nazis.

Native

(7,162 posts)
6. He even boasted that there will be "the ability for food!" Not food, just the "ability" for food. WTAF?
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 03:42 PM
16 hrs ago
"Illegals will come in, they will be processed, there are places for them to be housed. You'll have the ability for food, there will also be the ability for them to consult legal rights if they have that," DeSantis said.

"It's being done right, it's being done by the book," he added.


haele

(14,339 posts)
7. They can "consult legal rights?". And he was a JAG-off officer.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:08 PM
15 hrs ago

How does one consult a right? How does one have the ability for food?
Have the Lizard people installed DeSantis as their representative? Or has he (or a staff handler) been totally replaced with some sort of illegal space alien, along with the rest of those hateful thugs in the GOP?
He doesn't seem to be able to speak Swamp Mumble, let alone American English.

I've heard Android Translate from non-English speaking refugees's phones with better grammer when trying to communicate.

soldierant

(8,676 posts)
12. I believe that is Miller's quota.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 06:48 PM
13 hrs ago

I also believe that are not achieving it - not even close. But I could be wrong.

Godot51

(511 posts)
8. Will FEMA...
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:53 PM
14 hrs ago

... be able to respond if and, more likely, when this manmade disaster is hit by a hurricane or other natural disaster?

JT45242

(3,445 posts)
9. But no FEMA money for real emergency...
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:58 PM
14 hrs ago

Sweet jebus...how evil and short sighted do you have to be.

Wonder which donors get this biggest cuts of that cash cow?
What is De Satan kickback amount?
How much kickback to mango Mussolini?

ancianita

(40,792 posts)
10. When this is how the felon treats people of his own home state, while the rest of the country without the Everglades
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 06:01 PM
14 hrs ago

is faring only relatively better, pitiably so in blue states.

https://acaciajustice.org/what-we-do/legal-orientation-program-lop/



Jimvanhise

(448 posts)
11. SADISM IS THE WORD
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 06:09 PM
14 hrs ago

I used to live in Florida. The summer is not just hot but humid and punishing doesn't begin to describe what living in a tent based prison will be like. The everglades were never turned into living places for humans for a reason. It is not just populated by alligators but by pythons in such large numbers that there is a bounty on their slaughter and there are people whose only job is to go out every day and kill pythons but the population of them is still out of control. Prison is right.

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