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WhiskeyGrinder

(25,277 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:26 PM Jun 30

Bryan Kohberger to plead guilty to killing 4 University of Idaho students, multiple media report

https://apnews.com/article/kohberger-idaho-students-killed-91eeb98eebd3d9b007e4a5cae0f81030

BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Bryan Kohberger has agreed to plead guilty to murdering four University of Idaho students as part of a deal with prosecutors to avoid the death penalty, multiple media outlets reported Monday.

The news was delivered to families of the victims in a letter from prosecutors, according to ABC News. A change of plea hearing was set for Wednesday. Kohberger’s trial had been set to begin in August.

Kohberger, 30, is accused in the stabbing deaths of Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Madison Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves at a rental home near campus in Moscow, Idaho, in November 2022. Autopsies showed the four were all likely asleep when they were attacked, some had defensive wounds and each was stabbed multiple times.

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In Idaho, judges may reject plea agreements, though such moves are rare. If a judge rejects a plea agreement, the defendant is allowed to withdraw the guilty plea.
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Bryan Kohberger to plead guilty to killing 4 University of Idaho students, multiple media report (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Jun 30 OP
Questions: Why has it taken so long for this ahole to be tried? - and UTUSN Jun 30 #1
The trial was going to start and he faced the death penalty. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #2
Yes. The prosecution has a strong case. As I mention below, a tinge of embarrassment may be motivating him. John1956PA Jun 30 #4
Facing certain and imminent death has a way of focusing the mind. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #6
Right. H2O Man Jun 30 #15
Many will disagree with me, but I think he was motivated in part to avoid embarrassment for his parents. John1956PA Jun 30 #3
I don't know enough about this guy to opine if he has shame/embarrassment capability. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #8
Something about wanting to impress a female professor UTUSN Jun 30 #9
He sounds psychotic. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #10
Impressing about his brilliance in perfect crap UTUSN Jun 30 #13
Yes some of the serial killers are the same way. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #14
There's no public evidence about his motive Prairie Gates Jun 30 #22
Crime scene investigation often involves making a psychological profile of the killer. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #25
Yes, that's all very nice Prairie Gates Jun 30 #26
I didn't make up what I saw in credible reporting somewhere UTUSN Jun 30 #27
Here's the professor now free to talk, wondering whether she triggered him UTUSN Jul 2 #29
She's also speculating Prairie Gates Jul 2 #30
No, her personal, first hand and professional insight is far more weighty than mine and yours. UTUSN Jul 2 #31
She hasn't done any research on this particular person Prairie Gates Jul 2 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author UTUSN Jul 3 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author UTUSN Jul 3 #35
Not waiting for your "research" - buh bye UTUSN Jul 3 #36
Third time's a charm Prairie Gates Jul 3 #37
Does something for ya UTUSN Jul 3 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jun 30 #16
I thought all victims were women. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #17
It was Rebl2 Jun 30 #23
Multiple victims, multiple agencies investigating, change of venue. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 30 #5
Multiple victims/agencies/venue - thanks UTUSN Jun 30 #28
"strong self-preservation instinct" - if only those four kids could have had the plea UTUSN Jul 2 #32
The evidence doesn't go public? dem4decades Jun 30 #7
Some murderers may like the details to go public. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #11
This guy especially, he really thought he was so smart. dem4decades Jun 30 #19
Yes I hope some of it will be released. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #24
Most of the evidence is already known through filings Prairie Gates Jun 30 #12
Heard long ago, his phone tracked is what made this case CAKE. Brainfodder Jun 30 #18
You'd think a guy like that would be interested in the death penalty too. He be a real expert then. dem4decades Jun 30 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jun 30 #21

UTUSN

(74,759 posts)
1. Questions: Why has it taken so long for this ahole to be tried? - and
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:41 PM
Jun 30

why make a deal with him? - and why does he want to live in prison forever, waiting for the times to change and make oopsies aOK?




John1956PA

(4,271 posts)
4. Yes. The prosecution has a strong case. As I mention below, a tinge of embarrassment may be motivating him.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:48 PM
Jun 30

John1956PA

(4,271 posts)
3. Many will disagree with me, but I think he was motivated in part to avoid embarrassment for his parents.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:46 PM
Jun 30

At trial, the horrible (to put it mildly) details of the murders would be publicized. I realize he has next-to-no conscience, but I think he would be too ashamed to have his actions scrutinized all over the web.

Irish_Dem

(72,202 posts)
8. I don't know enough about this guy to opine if he has shame/embarrassment capability.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:59 PM
Jun 30

Or cares enough about his parents to spare them embarrassment.

The one thing that might fit is that he was a law enforcement student as I recall?
Even a graduate student in the field.

He could be embarrassed about how sloppy he was at the crime scene.
Many law enforcement officers get away with their crimes.
They know how to clean up the scene and not contaminate it.

So he failed on that score.
A narcissistic psychopath might be embarrassed about that.

Irish_Dem

(72,202 posts)
10. He sounds psychotic.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:25 PM
Jun 30

Killing four young female nursing students is going to impress a female professor?
Probably not.

Irish_Dem

(72,202 posts)
14. Yes some of the serial killers are the same way.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:36 PM
Jun 30

They see themselves as brilliant and try to impress the public and LE with their crimes.

Irish_Dem

(72,202 posts)
25. Crime scene investigation often involves making a psychological profile of the killer.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 09:08 PM
Jun 30

It is based on sound scientific theory.

You can piece together the psychology of the killer based on crime scene
evidence and facts.

And you can develop some hypotheses based on data.

Speculation is the basis of science.
Almost every single invention you benefit from began with someone speculating.

Prairie Gates

(5,641 posts)
26. Yes, that's all very nice
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 09:12 PM
Jun 30

Like I said, we really don't know anything about what motivated this guy. Perhaps we will find out more if he allocutes. Perhaps not. Speculation is also, of course, satisfying.

UTUSN

(74,759 posts)
29. Here's the professor now free to talk, wondering whether she triggered him
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 07:58 PM
Jul 2
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Prairie Gates

(5,641 posts)
30. She's also speculating
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 08:00 PM
Jul 2

Like I said, there's no evidence of his motive at all.

I think the professor would agree that she is merely wondering. She hasn't done any of the work needed to establish anything under any standard of evidence, legal or academic. Her guess on this point is as good as yours.

UTUSN

(74,759 posts)
31. No, her personal, first hand and professional insight is far more weighty than mine and yours.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 08:21 PM
Jul 2

Prairie Gates

(5,641 posts)
33. She hasn't done any research on this particular person
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:55 PM
Jul 2

She has no idea what his motive is. You do not understand what an academic specialty actually is. She did years of research including well-crafted interviews constituting knowledgeable qualitative research methods when it comes to BTK and others. She has not interviewed Mr. Kohberger at all, nor conducted anything resembling professional research on him. She had him in some classes. That's it. She can speak to her experience but not to his motives. Her guess is as good as yours.

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Irish_Dem

(72,202 posts)
17. I thought all victims were women.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:44 PM
Jun 30

But yes Ethan is a male name.

So there was a male victim.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,277 posts)
5. Multiple victims, multiple agencies investigating, change of venue.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:48 PM
Jun 30
why make a deal with him?
Quick resolution, spares painful testimonies and evidence going public; it's possible the prosecution doesn't feel like it's a slam dunk on some level

and why does he want to live in prison forever, waiting for the times to change and make oopsies aOK?
People generally have a pretty strong self-preservation instinct.

UTUSN

(74,759 posts)
32. "strong self-preservation instinct" - if only those four kids could have had the plea
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 08:33 PM
Jul 2

Plus, the ahole's SMILE is sickening.





dem4decades

(12,957 posts)
19. This guy especially, he really thought he was so smart.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:54 PM
Jun 30

I don't want the grisly details, but I would like to hear the GPS info, and other evidence they had.

Prairie Gates

(5,641 posts)
12. Most of the evidence is already known through filings
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:29 PM
Jun 30

Some issues are sealed, but there's really not a treasure trove of secret evidence. The case against him is already mostly public through the various filings.

He definitely committed these murders. It's unlikely that we will ever know why, or how he chose these victims, which is the only real mystery here.

Brainfodder

(7,516 posts)
18. Heard long ago, his phone tracked is what made this case CAKE.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:47 PM
Jun 30

Him looking JUST LIKE A PSYCHO and the degree he was working on.
DeeDaDee
2.5 years later:
Hey everyone I know it looks bad and all that but yeah I did it please don't kill me?
My guess, ego and wanted to experience it and thought he wouldn't get caught like most idiot killers.


dem4decades

(12,957 posts)
20. You'd think a guy like that would be interested in the death penalty too. He be a real expert then.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:56 PM
Jun 30

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