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Initech

(105,687 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:31 PM Jun 30

ICE is in my town and they almost tried to kidnap my mom's friend.

Who is a legal US citizen who has a passport and Real ID. But there was some asshole in the parking lot of a nearby store who wwas wearing tacitcal and was basically stalking her on her way to her car.

Fuck Trump and fuck everyone who voted for this shit.

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ICE is in my town and they almost tried to kidnap my mom's friend. (Original Post) Initech Jun 30 OP
Any ICE activity should be reported as a possible kidnapping to the police sakabatou Jun 30 #1
Agreed. However I live in a very MAGA area with a MAGA sheriff. Initech Jun 30 #2
"Do you want to be complicit in a kidnapping, or will you actually pursuit the criminals?" sakabatou Jun 30 #7
I counter that with: Initech Jun 30 #9
Yeah I get it sakabatou Jun 30 #10
Love Rage! ybbor Jul 1 #32
Serious question TommyT139 Jun 30 #3
I don't know, just heard this story, don't know a lot of the details yet. Initech Jun 30 #5
That's a stretch. Gimpyknee Jun 30 #12
No it's not. Shipwack Jun 30 #13
Right Rebl2 Jun 30 #21
There are some young non white people in my family. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #4
Yeah she got away but this is scary AF. Initech Jun 30 #6
Yes. It is terrifying. Irish_Dem Jun 30 #8
I dont get how "Stand your ground" quakerboy Jul 1 #41
The good guys with guns have turned out to be psychopath criminals. Irish_Dem Jul 1 #42
that's part of the fascist playbook Skittles Jun 30 #11
ICE???? bdamomma Jun 30 #14
It was never about deporting criminals or gangs. It's about ethnic cleansing. Initech Jun 30 #18
That bdamomma Jun 30 #25
Don't forget Steve Bannon! Initech Jun 30 #26
That was my immediate thought when all this shit started. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 1 #33
It seems bdamomma Jul 1 #34
Ask them for name and badge#. If they don't give it to you after two requests, call 911 and tell them that there's a man W T F Jun 30 #15
I read bdamomma Jul 1 #30
Some locals where I live printed up cards with rights & tips Attilatheblond Jul 1 #35
RealID and Citizenship have almost nothing to do with each other. dickthegrouch Jun 30 #16
And... Fuck everyone who sabotaged the election. Oopsie Daisy Jun 30 #17
And now Marge Shit For Brains is proposing a new census and redistricting. Initech Jun 30 #24
Amen. Joinfortmill Jun 30 #19
I am Rebl2 Jun 30 #20
I heard from a friend - not sure if it is true or not Dan Jun 30 #22
My grandkids are coming to visit and im scared to death since they are flying. Figarosmom Jun 30 #23
My nephew & his family just flew back from Mexico last week. dflprincess Jun 30 #27
Thanks that helps Figarosmom Jun 30 #28
I know what you mean Bayard Jul 1 #29
They bdamomma Jul 1 #31
They don't give a F about passport and real ID IronLionZion Jul 1 #36
Some suggestions if you see an ICE raid LetMyPeopleVote Jul 1 #37
Good to know! Initech Jul 1 #40
PLAN YOUR HOLIDAY VISITS RIGHT NOW!!!! wolfie001 Jul 1 #38
Do tell her to carry her documents -- here in the L.A. area, an American woman was taken despite her adultish kids LauraInLA Jul 1 #39

sakabatou

(45,100 posts)
7. "Do you want to be complicit in a kidnapping, or will you actually pursuit the criminals?"
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:59 PM
Jun 30

Initech

(105,687 posts)
9. I counter that with:
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:09 PM
Jun 30

"Some of those who work forces

Are the same that burn crosses"

Yes, fuck ICE, but the real bad guys are the ones in the GOP who made this shit a reality. And that's everyone from top to bottom.

sakabatou

(45,100 posts)
10. Yeah I get it
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:18 PM
Jun 30

I might go full scorched earth, and write to the biggest newspapers telling them how [insert city] police are complicit in possible kidnappings by doing nothing to stop or investigate them.

That might shake things.

ybbor

(1,657 posts)
32. Love Rage!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:10 AM
Jul 1

And think it is hilarious that some of these MAGA aholes do, but obviously haven’t listened to their lyrics.

TommyT139

(1,650 posts)
3. Serious question
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:48 PM
Jun 30

Was it just a single guy? All the abductions I've read and seen video of have been multiple people, probably due to anticipation of bystanders assisting the victim.

Initech

(105,687 posts)
5. I don't know, just heard this story, don't know a lot of the details yet.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:54 PM
Jun 30

But it sounds to me like it's not ICE but an ICE impersonator.

Shipwack

(2,780 posts)
13. No it's not.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:27 PM
Jun 30

If it were only a single person, then it’s likely an impersonator. The ICE-bags travel in groups.

Irish_Dem

(72,509 posts)
4. There are some young non white people in my family.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:50 PM
Jun 30

If ICE comes after these kids I am afraid what I might do.

What happened with your Mom's friend at the end?
Did she get away, or have to fight ICE?

quakerboy

(14,454 posts)
41. I dont get how "Stand your ground"
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 04:14 PM
Jul 1

hasn't come into play yet. Where are all the "good guys with guns" during the current rash of anonymous masked assailant kidnapping folks?

bdamomma

(68,863 posts)
14. ICE????
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:31 PM
Jun 30

don't you mean those 1,600 insurrectionists who the felon pardoned???? That's why they remain masked. They must be getting $$$$$$$ for how many people they can detain and most of them are NOT criminals.

bdamomma

(68,863 posts)
25. That
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 09:48 PM
Jun 30

bastard Stephen Miller should be brought up everyday, he's the architect. Vile evil POS. He has mental health issues, don't they all???? They like to take revenge on others for their own self lackings of decency. His own family doesn't have anything to do with him.

Initech

(105,687 posts)
26. Don't forget Steve Bannon!
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:18 PM
Jun 30

That shitbag should be rotting in prison for the rest of his sorry life.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,359 posts)
33. That was my immediate thought when all this shit started.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:50 AM
Jul 1

When he let those bastards go I thought then that he was forming is own private gestapo.

bdamomma

(68,863 posts)
34. It seems
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:56 AM
Jul 1

like there of a lot of us who see these thugs for being Insurrectionists that is why they are not giving ID numbers or showing warrants. They are masked up because they are hiding their identity. I only wish we would call them to their face they are Insurrectionists and see their reaction to that!

W T F

(1,182 posts)
15. Ask them for name and badge#. If they don't give it to you after two requests, call 911 and tell them that there's a man
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:33 PM
Jun 30

Impersonating police officer and he has a gun

bdamomma

(68,863 posts)
30. I read
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:54 AM
Jul 1

about that too. People have been doing it too, it seems to work. The information needs to be given to out to everyone. I mean everyone.

Attilatheblond

(6,713 posts)
35. Some locals where I live printed up cards with rights & tips
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:05 AM
Jul 1

They go to places where day workers and potential employers meet up and hand out the cards.

Thinking any responsible local newspapers, few and far between, I know, would start publishing rights of citizens and non citizens along with contact info for departments these gangs of kidnappers need to be reported to.

Also, consider carrying a batter back up charge in your car so you have battery to video a lot at any given time.

dickthegrouch

(4,085 posts)
16. RealID and Citizenship have almost nothing to do with each other.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:35 PM
Jun 30

Residency does have to be affirmed, citizenship, not so much.

Noncitizens lawfully admitted for permanent or temporary residence, noncitizens with conditional permanent resident status, noncitizens with an approved application for asylum, and noncitizens who have entered the United States as refugees are eligible for a full-term REAL ID license or identification card.

https://www.tsa.gov/real-id/real-id-faqs

REAL ID Documentation for Non-U.S. Citizens
Unexpired Employment Authorization Card (EAD) issued by DHS; Forms I-766 or Form 1-688B
Valid, Unexpired Permanent Resident Card I-551 Permanent Resident Card (Green Card) Issued by DHS or INS
Unexpired foreign passport with an unexpired U.S. visa affixed, and an I-94 indicating temporary evidence of permanent residence
Social security number or original copy of SSA ineligibility letter
Two documents that show proof of residency


Rebl2

(16,696 posts)
20. I am
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 08:53 PM
Jun 30

hearing more stories of individuals dressed as possible ice agents who are not ice agents just trying to kidnap women to do god knows what to them.

Dan

(4,833 posts)
22. I heard from a friend - not sure if it is true or not
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 09:01 PM
Jun 30

That POTUS says "He said, the only citizens born in the U.S. is slaves, they were born slaves" and whatever that means.

But, because of our history in this nation - once they start kidnapping Black folks - that is when the shit is going to hit the fan. Because most folks I know will assume that white people in Masks trying to force them into a vehicle are up to no good. As uncle used to say - better judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Figarosmom

(7,012 posts)
23. My grandkids are coming to visit and im scared to death since they are flying.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 09:07 PM
Jun 30

Their Dad is Mexican so they have Mexican last names. And my grandson is married to a Japanese girl. I'm so afraid ICE is going to hassel them at the least and detain them at the most. And I hope they have nothing on their phones that will trigger someone.

dflprincess

(28,931 posts)
27. My nephew & his family just flew back from Mexico last week.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:19 PM
Jun 30

They were down there visiting his wife's dad and other family. His wife is a citizen but she kept her last name; the kids use a hyphenated version of the two last names. Both my sister-in-law and I fretted until they got home.

They had a non-stop flight from Mexico City to Minneapolis. I don't know if it helped coming through customs in Minneapolis rather than close to the border or not, but they had no issues. My nephew said the TSA/Custom people barely paid them any attention.





Figarosmom

(7,012 posts)
28. Thanks that helps
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:28 PM
Jun 30

They will be flying from Seattle to Milwaukee and Charlotte to Milwaukee .

Bayard

(26,042 posts)
29. I know what you mean
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:56 AM
Jul 1

I worry for my niece's husband and their young daughter. Hubby was born here, U.S. citizen, and ex-Army Ranger, but parents from El Salvador. My great niece is the spitting image of her Dad. Beautiful black hair and dark eyes. Hispanic last name. Good Democrats.

Its outrageous that we must have these fears now.

bdamomma

(68,863 posts)
31. They
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:01 AM
Jul 1

want us to fear, but we must resist. Just reading your post, I think Diversity is beautiful. I hate this regime.

IronLionZion

(49,479 posts)
36. They don't give a F about passport and real ID
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jul 1

they are under strict orders to cleanse this country of anyone who doesn't have the right look

These tactical vest guys are really keeping America safe

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,507 posts)
37. Some suggestions if you see an ICE raid
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:29 PM
Jul 1

I think that these suggestions make sense

We need for these people to provide proper identification

wolfie001

(5,732 posts)
38. PLAN YOUR HOLIDAY VISITS RIGHT NOW!!!!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:36 PM
Jul 1

All tRUMPer voters should def be excluded from the celebrating.

LauraInLA

(2,240 posts)
39. Do tell her to carry her documents -- here in the L.A. area, an American woman was taken despite her adultish kids
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 01:22 PM
Jul 1

demanding to see the warrant and trying to get the “agents” to check. It later came out that she was not their target and was just “in the wrong place at the wrong time.”

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