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babylonsister

(172,211 posts)
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:27 AM Jul 1

Young Men Who Elected Trump Just Realized They Scr*wed Up

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Young Men Who Elected Trump Just Realized They Scr*wed Up
BUYER’S REMORSE
“They are turning against him,” Harvard director of polling tells The Daily Beast.
Leigh Kimmins
Reporter
The Daily Beast Podcast
Updated Jul. 1 2025 8:08AM EDT /
Published Jul. 1 2025 6:00AM EDT


The young men who helped get Donald Trump back into the White House are now realizing they made a massive mistake, according to a Harvard polling expert.

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During the 2024 election, Trump won narrow margins in key battleground states after making an outreach to disaffected young men, using right-wing influencers and anti-woke rhetoric to secure their votes. “I believe younger people were responsible for putting Donald Trump in office to start with, specifically younger men,” Della Volpe said.

However, he also suggested that these voters feel they have seen no return on the campaign promises made by Trump regarding the economy and other domestic concerns.

“Younger people are quickly asking important questions like, ‘I thought this was going to improve my economic standing. What about me?’”
said Della Volpe, who advised Joe Biden during his 2020 election campaign and worked with a PAC that tried to rally support for Kamala Harris in 2024.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/young-men-who-elected-trump-just-realized-they-scrwed-up/

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Young Men Who Elected Trump Just Realized They Scr*wed Up (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 1 OP
Men can be so gullible and prejudiced. They keep screwing up Walleye Jul 1 #1
Women are the ones who have to do the mop up. Irish_Dem Jul 1 #2
I know it's wrong to judge people that way, but I agree Walleye Jul 1 #4
It is historical fact. Irish_Dem Jul 1 #7
Men should get a surcharge on taxes for all the prison time they cost us Walleye Jul 1 #8
All the death, destruction, injury, starvation, lowered standard of living, pain, misery. Irish_Dem Jul 1 #10
Cost of patriarchy Starbeach Jul 1 #25
amen!!!! samnsara Jul 1 #12
You are right. Norbert Jul 1 #24
Good one. Irish_Dem Jul 1 #70
Mop-up needed writerJT Jul 1 #62
Yes Trump Tramp women now doing damage too. Irish_Dem Jul 1 #71
Nah, it's both doing the screwing up & mopping up. But men have more MYTHS about themselves. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 1 #36
Women are criticized for being "emotional "because of the soft emotions. Pity, empathy, etc.. Walleye Jul 1 #38
Right. Real men, not "Real Men" TM, realize that the soft emotions ultimately are strong. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 1 #43
As a man, I agree. I'm often embarrassed by others of my gender. CaptainTruth Jul 1 #45
Thank you! We need more men like you that's for sure Walleye Jul 1 #55
that's bdamomma Jul 1 #47
I think you are way off base there. whopis01 Jul 1 #54
It's overwhelmingly white men without college educations VMA131Marine Jul 2 #76
That's a good point. The loudest and the rudest of them. Walleye Jul 2 #77
They thought that he'd improve their economic standing? Vogon_Glory Jul 1 #3
They can fall for the dumbest schemes if they think they're going to get an advantage somehow Walleye Jul 1 #5
Their very important question, "What about me?" travelingthrulife Jul 1 #14
But that question has grabbed their attention and are babylonsister Jul 1 #17
In the coming months the young gullible may have to choose Vogon_Glory Jul 1 #21
I don't know what a young person possibly thought would benefit them Renew Deal Jul 1 #6
They are macho men, and they hate "woke". That determines their vote? Walleye Jul 1 #9
I don't think that's universal Renew Deal Jul 1 #11
Joe Rogan sucking his cock mattered Johonny Jul 1 #13
I don't know one 30something that believes SS Prairie_Seagull Jul 1 #15
That has been the talking point sinice "I" was 30, and I am 68 now. Ferrets are Cool Jul 1 #23
Yes I heard that nonsense about Social Security being bankrupt in my 30's DBoon Jul 1 #28
And very easy to do. Just tell them "we're going to eliminate the cap. Period." mobeau69 Jul 1 #33
Yes, I started hearing that during the Raygun administration Trailrider1951 Jul 1 #63
You might mention the concept of "self fulfilling whathehell Jul 1 #42
Submitted for your approval usonian Jul 1 #16
Exactly bdamomma Jul 1 #49
Personality and identity politics. Get people to vote against their own best interests. usonian Jul 1 #59
I regret the Republican vote I cast when I was a young twenty-three. Aristus Jul 1 #18
I was twenty Ithree when I voted for Nixon in '68.. Permanut Jul 1 #65
"Ha ha. Young male suckers and losers. ha ha." - Krasnov (R-Felon/Rapist) BoRaGard Jul 1 #19
Oh you gullible little men... llmart Jul 1 #20
Dumb shits think they know it all. oasis Jul 1 #22
Then they're really slow on the uptake. Hint: When they tell you and show you who and what they are, believe them! SheltieLover Jul 1 #26
There are so many things wrong with that Farmer-Rick Jul 1 #27
FAFO... Wounded Bear Jul 1 #29
We've probably been there for a decade. rubbersole Jul 1 #39
This is my go to article bdamomma Jul 1 #50
Excellent. Thanks. 👋 rubbersole Jul 1 #52
If they had done ANY research at all Mtnmama Jul 1 #30
But they think reading social media screeds *is* "research," so... Beartracks Jul 2 #78
Hispanic men, muslim men and black men are just realizing they royally screwed up. sop Jul 1 #31
Good but I still think he somehow stole it Joinfortmill Jul 1 #32
"I have all the votes I need." Said before Election Day. 3catwoman3 Jul 1 #60
Yup. Joinfortmill Jul 1 #61
He knew all bdamomma Jul 1 #67
Yeah but the price of eggs IronLionZion Jul 1 #34
Fat lot of good that does now. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 1 #35
Too fucking late, you clueless assholes. You screwed up, and so screwed niyad Jul 1 #37
They thought "Whatever, what have we got to lose?" ToxMarz Jul 1 #40
Ignorance is not an excuse!! Beacool Jul 1 #41
Anyone who did the least amount of research instead of being so gullible, Fil1957 Jul 1 #44
The young men who voted for Trump because he'd screw over liberals, blacks, immigrants, women, LGBTQ people, Martin68 Jul 1 #46
I disagree they are a little bit different than their older MAGA Jspur Jul 1 #68
I've met more than one young MAGA man who made it clear anger and hate were their prime motivators. I don't Martin68 Jul 1 #74
Wait 'til they get a nice letter from the draft board. Ping Tung Jul 1 #48
No home to call you own, bud? dlilafae Jul 1 #51
Yep. Gonna hate it more when meemaw and pawpaw JCMach1 Jul 1 #53
To hell with these young men who helped get trump elected. republianmushroom Jul 1 #56
Well, for the young men that voted for Donald Trump Dan Jul 1 #57
Soon mommy's basement will be in foreclosure Blue Owl Jul 1 #58
An observation OneGrassRoot Jul 1 #64
Start Picking Vegetables Deep State Witch Jul 1 #66
All of the vindictive little 'my body not yours' little f-ers... Hope22 Jul 1 #69
Here's a song just for these young men who voted for Dono Twump... spudspud Jul 1 #72
No, they haven't. OldBaldy1701E Jul 1 #73
Zohran Mamdani showed how to win men and showed how to win in neighborhoods that Trump won biocube Jul 2 #75

Walleye

(41,385 posts)
1. Men can be so gullible and prejudiced. They keep screwing up
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:30 AM
Jul 1

And we women keep having to live with it. And their answer is “oops, sorry”

Irish_Dem

(72,202 posts)
7. It is historical fact.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:56 AM
Jul 1

Men do the killing, fighting, torturing, destroying.

Women keep the home fires burning, take care of the children.
Keep body and soul together.
Hold the family and town together.
Take care of those injured and damaged by the men.

Women do it all with sheer will, determination, sacrifice.
Never get so much as a thank you.

Walleye

(41,385 posts)
8. Men should get a surcharge on taxes for all the prison time they cost us
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:59 AM
Jul 1

Not a serious suggestion, of course, but I’ve often thought that

Irish_Dem

(72,202 posts)
10. All the death, destruction, injury, starvation, lowered standard of living, pain, misery.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:02 AM
Jul 1

If women did all the damage men have done, we would be behind barbed wire for life.

Norbert

(7,156 posts)
24. You are right.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:03 AM
Jul 1

I think it is part of the male brain that doesn't want driving directions is the same part that votes.

writerJT

(322 posts)
62. Mop-up needed
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:54 PM
Jul 1

Murkowski just told reporters that the bill That She Just Voted FOR isn't any good and that she wants the House to make changes and send it back to the Senate -- "My hope is that the House is gonna look at this and recognize that we're not there yet"

maura quint (@mauraquint.bsky.social) 2025-07-01T16:34:36.029Z

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,013 posts)
36. Nah, it's both doing the screwing up & mopping up. But men have more MYTHS about themselves.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:30 AM
Jul 1

They believe they screw up less.
They believe they are less emotional.
They believe they are smarter.
They believe they are more courageous.

Those are all myths.

I think men are a bit more emotional, because they can get away with it more and suffer fewer consequences because ... patriarchy. I never hear about women screaming and raging in executive suites and meeting rooms, but I do hear about men doing that.

Walleye

(41,385 posts)
38. Women are criticized for being "emotional "because of the soft emotions. Pity, empathy, etc..
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:42 AM
Jul 1

But the strongest emotion of all is anger, and we know who can be captive to that

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,013 posts)
43. Right. Real men, not "Real Men" TM, realize that the soft emotions ultimately are strong.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:02 AM
Jul 1

It takes inner strength to extend empathy, even though it is natural. It takes self-confidence to share. It is weak to be defensive and close off.

VMA131Marine

(5,054 posts)
76. It's overwhelmingly white men without college educations
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jul 2

There was no way in hell I was voting for Trump.

Vogon_Glory

(9,973 posts)
3. They thought that he'd improve their economic standing?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:32 AM
Jul 1

The floor is already cracking and the Abyss is beckoning below them. The only ones who can defy the law of gravity are the connected and/or very wealthy.

Too bad, guys, you’re facing the long drop!

Walleye

(41,385 posts)
5. They can fall for the dumbest schemes if they think they're going to get an advantage somehow
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:54 AM
Jul 1

I think flattery is the Achilles heel of men

travelingthrulife

(2,862 posts)
14. Their very important question, "What about me?"
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:30 AM
Jul 1

This is why fascists can drop them a bone and they fall for it. Zero empathy.

babylonsister

(172,211 posts)
17. But that question has grabbed their attention and are
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:39 AM
Jul 1

hopefully more 'woke' because of it. I figured they'd come out of the woodwork once they realized they're really getting screwed. If self-interest wakes them up, I'm ok with that.

Vogon_Glory

(9,973 posts)
21. In the coming months the young gullible may have to choose
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:56 AM
Jul 1

between a very small bone or no bone at all.

Or getting boned.

Renew Deal

(84,252 posts)
6. I don't know what a young person possibly thought would benefit them
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:55 AM
Jul 1

Unless they want farming jobs. Then maybe.

Renew Deal

(84,252 posts)
11. I don't think that's universal
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:03 AM
Jul 1

I doubt they thought anything would happen with student loans. Maybe jobs. But Trump was never focused on getting people to high paying careers.

Johonny

(24,126 posts)
13. Joe Rogan sucking his cock mattered
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jul 1

I wish Bernie unloaded on the racist fucker. Joe Rogan needs reminding he had a felon on his show and talked Hunter Bidens laptop instead of the crimes, the racism, the tax cuts for the wealthy, the kids in cages . . .

Never forget.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,282 posts)
15. I don't know one 30something that believes SS
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:35 AM
Jul 1

will be there for them when they retire. Granted this is from a small sample size say 20 or so. I ask the question of all my kids pals whenever my kids bring a new person over to meet the rents. My kids are also in this age group and this is a big deal for them. With AI and automation already here or on the horizon they see and know this will be a big issue for them.

Indicate the democrats want to shore up SS and do it loudly for all youth to hear. I believe this will ring a bell of some sort

DBoon

(23,937 posts)
28. Yes I heard that nonsense about Social Security being bankrupt in my 30's
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:14 AM
Jul 1

I'm 69 now, and getting a monthly deposit for SS

mobeau69

(12,065 posts)
33. And very easy to do. Just tell them "we're going to eliminate the cap. Period."
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:26 AM
Jul 1

Warren would work but it needs to be hammered into the thick skulls every fucking day. 24/7/365.

Trailrider1951

(3,528 posts)
63. Yes, I started hearing that during the Raygun administration
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 01:17 PM
Jul 1

You remember Raygun...the anti-FDR, don't you?

whathehell

(30,201 posts)
42. You might mention the concept of "self fulfilling
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:00 AM
Jul 1

prophecies" to them. like, if you keep voting for RW candidates like Trump, it definitely will not be there for you.

bdamomma

(68,786 posts)
49. Exactly
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:47 AM
Jul 1

that poster says it all. Carlin said they were coming to get it all, and it seems accurate. Too bad no one caught on.

usonian

(18,975 posts)
59. Personality and identity politics. Get people to vote against their own best interests.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:44 PM
Jul 1

Since Lee Atwater's "Southern Strategy" ... if you can't convince them of unbridled capitalism, hook 'em with racism ...

Hate and discrimination are blind, and they are not inherent. They're taught. And taught well.

Appeal to the "old brain" limbic system "fight or flight" and shut down the rational brain.

Fascist playbook.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220447922

Aristus

(70,388 posts)
18. I regret the Republican vote I cast when I was a young twenty-three.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:40 AM
Jul 1

In my defense, the guy I voted for was not only a successful businessman, he was also the youngest combat pilot in U.S. Naval history, a decorated aviator, a Congressman, US Ambassador to China and the UN, Director of the CIA, two-term Vice President, and a guy who still went skydiving in his nineties.

That's quite a resume.

The young Trumpsters voted for a spectacularly incompetent, nepo-baby reality TV show host.

Permanut

(7,303 posts)
65. I was twenty Ithree when I voted for Nixon in '68..
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 02:02 PM
Jul 1

Been trying to atone for it ever since.

llmart

(16,616 posts)
20. Oh you gullible little men...
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:53 AM
Jul 1

You think it's bad already? Just wait until your "savior" reinstitutes the draft and you get called up to fight his make-believe war.

I know of one 21-year old guy who voted for him and his reason was, "Because all my friends are voting for him."

SheltieLover

(71,276 posts)
26. Then they're really slow on the uptake. Hint: When they tell you and show you who and what they are, believe them!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:11 AM
Jul 1

Farmer-Rick

(11,864 posts)
27. There are so many things wrong with that
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:12 AM
Jul 1

Daily Beast article that I don't know where to start.

First, prove that Trump won any of the battle ground states without Starlink's or vote rigging help.

Second, the white male Nazis didn't vote for economic reasons. They voted for typical Nazi reasons. They are perfectly happy with the Nazi state the little stupid Hitler is creating. I live in a red state and all the little Nazis would rather see their grandmas live in chicken coops and starve to death before they stop supporting their Nazi leaders.

Wounded Bear

(62,480 posts)
29. FAFO...
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:15 AM
Jul 1


Let's hope going forward the votes will actually be counted. We're approaching Putin territory with election fraud. Not voter fraud, election fraud.

rubbersole

(10,091 posts)
39. We've probably been there for a decade.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:45 AM
Jul 1

Putin's GRU/KGBish efforts are effective. They "recruited" tsf over 30 years ago. They've been buttering his insecure orange ass since before his Miss Universe pageant in Moscow.

bdamomma

(68,786 posts)
50. This is my go to article
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:52 AM
Jul 1

that tRump was selected by Putin. Old article but still relevant today.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

title:
Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House
This article is more than 3 years old
Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy:

Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present.

They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.

Russia’s three spy agencies were ordered to find practical ways to support Trump, in a decree appearing to bear Putin’s signature.

Mtnmama

(74 posts)
30. If they had done ANY research at all
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:19 AM
Jul 1

Before voting, they would have realized what a scoundrel he is, has been all his life. That's the problem with America, at least a big one, people don't do a little research before voting! Or, maybe his crimes and vulgarities were ok, as long as they thought THEY weren't impacted personally.

3catwoman3

(27,128 posts)
60. "I have all the votes I need." Said before Election Day.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jul 1

How, one might ask, did he know that?

niyad

(125,151 posts)
37. Too fucking late, you clueless assholes. You screwed up, and so screwed
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:33 AM
Jul 1

us all. Now, how are YOU going to clean up the horror show YOU helped create??? Because, quite frankly, we are sick to death of having to clean up the messes stupidity and cluelessness make.

Beacool

(30,419 posts)
41. Ignorance is not an excuse!!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:52 AM
Jul 1

Their machismo couldn't handle a black woman being president. Instead, they supported the toxic masculinity that Trump radiated.

They can go to hell too!!

Fil1957

(130 posts)
44. Anyone who did the least amount of research instead of being so gullible,
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:16 AM
Jul 1

could have easily predicted the effects of his election.

Martin68

(26,146 posts)
46. The young men who voted for Trump because he'd screw over liberals, blacks, immigrants, women, LGBTQ people,
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:39 AM
Jul 1

and everybody else they hate will never regret their vote. They don't care what pain it inflicts on them or their community as long as it makes the people they hate suffer.

Jspur

(732 posts)
68. I disagree they are a little bit different than their older MAGA
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 04:20 PM
Jul 1

compatriots. The difference is they are young and stupid and gullible and actually believed Trump could make their lives better economically. They bought into the bs that Trump was actually a great president the first time and if it wasn't for COVID his whole entire first term would have been great. They bought into the narrative that gave Trump the credit for the stimulus. They also stupidly blamed Biden for the inflation issues without seeing that Trump's handling of Covid caused it.

They also stupidly thought that Trump would help their dating life hence they bought into all the crap these dating redpill guys were pushing on podcasts. I had empathy as an elder Millennial that dating has become a lot harder in this country due to these terrible dating apps that have skewed people's expectations of what a good mate is. The empathy however ended when they believed Trump could fix these issues. They thought by voting for Trump they were going to get back at all the women who rejected them and that the women they couldn't get would lower their standards for them. They are now learning the hard way that nothing will change regarding their dating lives which is something I kept on trying to tell them before they voted for Trump but they stupidly refused to listen.

Believe me a lot of these young men have regrets and they are more depressed now than they were before. Trump to them represented hope that their dating and economic lives could get better but now it's obvious it won't. You are going to see in upcoming years a lot of these guys spiral into great depression and an increase in suicide attempts.

On the other side the older MAGA guys have gotten to live their lives and just live to destroy people they hate while these young guys have not gotten to live their lives. That to me is the biggest difference between the two groups.

Martin68

(26,146 posts)
74. I've met more than one young MAGA man who made it clear anger and hate were their prime motivators. I don't
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:53 PM
Jul 1

doubt many young Trump voters did believe he would make their life better, but even they support many of his anti-democratic values.

dlilafae

(240 posts)
51. No home to call you own, bud?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:57 AM
Jul 1

That high cost of living will keep you from saving. Should have went for Kamala.

Dan

(4,822 posts)
57. Well, for the young men that voted for Donald Trump
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:22 PM
Jul 1

As I remember from back in the day - Keep your M16 clean to avoid misfires, hope this helps when you are in a faraway land.

OneGrassRoot

(23,783 posts)
64. An observation
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 01:49 PM
Jul 1

Younger people have much less loyalty to organizations, including companies, and are much quicker to leave. I think that’s actually a good evolution because organizations and companies have shown no loyalty to us.

They may make bad, reactionary choices but, in general, they want the same shit we’ve been fighting for here. They’re especially tuned in to how $$$ is fucking up EVERYTHING.

So they don’t have any loyalty to Trump or the GOP or any right-wing “influencer.” They will be loyal to a point, but they seem to see through the bullshit faster than older people who used to be able to rely on truth from media.

Deep State Witch

(11,995 posts)
66. Start Picking Vegetables
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 03:27 PM
Jul 1

Okay, all you guys who voted for the Orange Turd and are complaining about not being able to get a job - head out to the Heartland. There are crops that need to be picked. Get busy!

Hope22

(4,052 posts)
69. All of the vindictive little 'my body not yours' little f-ers...
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 04:52 PM
Jul 1

I don’t give a crap what about their sads. Let’s poll the young women who voted hell no and lost their personal rights and a chance at a good economy. Scream….into the pillow….

OldBaldy1701E

(8,336 posts)
73. No, they haven't.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:57 PM
Jul 1

That would require more brain cells than the current crop has exhibited so far.

Anyone that voted for that orange gibbon because they thought he would make their lives better in any way is beyond delusional and beyond help, as far as I am concerned.

I guess we may have a use for that abomination that they are building in Florida, once we remove this regime. Maybe some swamp time might help these younger males remove their heads from their asses.

biocube

(113 posts)
75. Zohran Mamdani showed how to win men and showed how to win in neighborhoods that Trump won
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:21 AM
Jul 2

The blueprint is right here. Abandon the corporate centrist crap and nominate a new dealer presidential candidate next time.

Any time you're running a socially liberal campaign you're facing headwinds in most places. It's not just white men, but many black and Hispanic voters too. Moving left on economics is the afterburner to overcome that and you don't have to throw LGBT people under the bus.

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