DJT referring Adam Schiff for criminal mortgage fraud investigation

[allegorical oracle]

The Trump administration is corruptly targeting Sen. Adam Schiff (D-CA) with criminal investigation using the same tactic it has used against New York Attorney General Letitia James: allegations of mortgage fraud.

Fannie Mae has reportedly made a criminal referral against Schiff to the Trump Justice Department. President Trump happily touted the news about his former impeacher on social media.

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Trump’s not targeting just any Democrats. He’s targeting precisely who he has promised to target: Democrats who came after him. James, among other things, won that massive $300+ million fraud case against the Trump Org. Schiff, then in the House, was the lead prosecutor in the first Trump impeachment and has continued to be a chief Trump antagonist.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/morning-memo/trump-corruptly-targets-schiff-with-criminal-investigation

[Hotler]

1. Adam, call him a domestic enemy and call for his immediate arrest.

They'll go nuts.

[in2herbs]

4. I like to think of this type of response as the "Newsom effect". Hit back with words. It totally confuses MAGA

because they can't read!

[Initech]

2. Can we please give Trump a one way ticket to Mars on a Space X rocket now?

[speak easy]

16. Mats just isn't big emough for Kransnov.

He should be the first man to plant the Stars and Stripes on the Sun.

[Moostache]

23. Nah...lie to him and he'll go willingly, may even brag about it en route...

Tell him we're sending you to the biggest, bestest planet, maybe in the history of the solar system - JUPITER!!! We're gonna launch you right into the Great Red Spot and name it "The Spot of America, by Donald Trump" - nevermind explaining things like pressure, gravity, atmosphere and death to him... just tell him the BS and say "right this way Mr. President" until you seal him into the capsule - then lock it, turn off all conns and launch.

[speak easy]

39. "The Spot of America" !

First real laugh I've had in ages.
Thank You!

[Seinan Sensei]

25. Tell Trump "We want to plant a flag on Uranus"

[Justice matters.]

32. DUZY :)

On your wut?

[calimary]

40. Thread winner!

[Initech]

42. Scientists changed the name of it to avoid that joke once and for all!

[oasis]

49. Good one!

[jmowreader]

45. Hmmm...

"I'm going to be the first man to plant our glorious American Flag on the glorious Sun!"
"Mr. President, won't you instantly burn to a crisp if you try to do that?"
"No, because I'm going to do it at night."

[canetoad]

50. Boom-tish

[llmart]

21. Space X rockets aren't very reliable so maybe not.

However, if one would blow up half way there I'd be fine with that also.

[Initech]

41. That's the joke!

[Quanto Magnus]

28. He's so excited about CECOT

I'm fine with us saving some money and sending him there instead....

[greatauntoftriplets]

3. This is a witch hunt.

[Basso8vb]

5. We are living in post-constitutional America.

He's left us with only one avenue of recourse.

[WiVoter]

11. Yes

[reACTIONary]

14. Really? What's that?

[Cirsium]

29. Militant resistance

Of course. Perhaps you are trying to play gotcha and suggest that others are recommending violence so you can easily dismiss their observations?

It could well be that electoral, legislative and judicial solutions are now out of reach. That has happened many times throughout history, and all of the signs are there that is is happening in the US now. That means that the crisis calls for a different approach. There are many non-violent forms of resistance.

[reACTIONary]

38. Given your post, I think it would be reasonable to suspect....

... that you may have been hinting at violence. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask for clarification.

What exactly is "militant resistance"? Does that mean shutting down a highway by flooding it with protesters? That sort of thing has been going on for some time. That would not seem to be a different approach. What is it that you are advocating?

[Cirsium]

43. That is a smear

I haven't been "hinting at violence."

I am not "advocating" anything.

You are confusing tactics with strategy and purpose, and confusing means with ends. Start with the crisis, not with a debate about tactics. Imagine you are challenging the Abolitionists back in the 1850s.

You: "what are you advocating?"
Answer: "an end to slavery."

You: "what approach are you suggesting?"
Answer: "whatever it takes."

Start with looking to the Women's Suffrage movement, the Abolition movement, the Labor movement, and the Civil Rights movement for ideas.

[reACTIONary]

46. Along with those historical movements you can include.....

..... the more recent Black Lives Matter movement. It seems like this "militant resistance" is hardly anything new or different and is largely on going. And, by the way, electoral, legislative and judicial solutions are what makes these movements, in the end, successful.

I still don't understand why "militant resistance" is the one and only "avenue of recourse" that we are solely left with, or why you consider it to be lacking. And I'm not sure exactly how "militant resistance" could work without electoral, legislative and judicial solutions being applied.

[Cirsium]

54. Backward

Electoral, legislative and judicial solutions don't make social justice movements successful, social justice movements make electoral, legislative and judicial solutions successful. Electoral, legislative and judicial so-called "solutions" merely represent concessions by those in power they were forced to make by social justice movements. They are usually watered down compromises, of course, designed mainly to quell resistance and protect the interests of the powerful.

[reACTIONary]

55. Backward or forward....

.... until there are electoral, legislative and judicial solutions, there has not been substantive gains. Without such reforms the movement has either failed, or is still a work in progress.

So, whatever else is going on, declaring that "electoral, legislative and judicial solutions are now out of reach" is not only untrue, it is also defeatist.

And I'm still wonder what the one and only remaining course of action might be. Any idea?

[Cirsium]

56. Sure there are

Until there are electoral, legislative and judicial solutions, there have not been substantive gains?

Sure there have been, many times. One example: slavery was effectively abolished de facto before the Thirteenth Amendment was ratified.

More often than not, elections and legislation merely reflect social and political change that has already happened. The mysterious failure by so many Democrats to recognize that obvious truth is a big part of the reason why we struggle to defeat the right wing despite broad public support for very progressive policies.

"First we need to get the seats, then we can talk about (fill in the blank with various progressive causes)" has been a mantra with too many Democrats since Reagan. All sorts of compromises then ensue - "in order to win!" It is a formula for disaster and has led to the MAGA nightmare we are now living.

First take and stand and the seats (and the legislation and the judicial decisions) will follow.

[reACTIONary]

57. OK, and exactly what would ....

.... taking a stand look like? Would that be a "No King" protest? Or maybe a protest outside of an ICE detention center? It seems that we are taking that sort of a stand. Or maybe I miss-under-stand 😊.

On the judicial front, it looks like we have been taking a stand. That has not always been successful, but we are racking up some wins. Does that count? Or should we stop taking a stand there? Because it isn't "militant resistance" of some sort?

So I still don't understand why you think "militant resistance" is lacking, or why you think we are not taking a stand. What is it we are supposed to be doing that we are not?

[Cirsium]

58. Look to history

There are many examples.

[Aviation Pro]

6. Schiff should call him a fucking pedophile using those exact words

And dare the fucking pedophile to prove him wrong.

[Hornedfrog2000]

20. 100%

We need to get more shock value to get traction in the media. Dare them to sue you over it. Have the DNC provide legal coverage. I would literally donate to fight against trumps lawsuits only

[Justice matters.]

34. Can't wait for the Discovery phase...

Do it, Senator!!

[Texin]

7. This so-called 'presidency' is just one long, never-ending retribution tour.

[Joinfortmill]

33. You said it!

[Justice matters.]

35. AND a never-ending-grift tour.

At the expense of the taxpayers.

The always lying convicted pedf-elon wants that Qatari jet so much...

[samsingh]

8. 2024 was a crucial election and i wish we had put up a firewall

and kept the Presidency.

it's like the batman villain's have taken over

[Ol Janx Spirit]

9. But we had Merrick Garland.... n/t

[groundloop]

13. I'm of the opinion Garland would have been a great justice.....

As an AG, however, he was a huge disappointment.

[MyOwnPeace]

22. You have my nomination for............

UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR!!!

[Skittles]

48. I think he would have sucked in any capacity

[Ol Janx Spirit]

52. My fear with Garland was always that he was basically a "safe" choice by President Obama to fill...

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...the seat vacated by horrible Antonin Scalia by choosing someone that just might get a vote before a Senate controlled by Republicans. We all know how that played out.

I feel like his tenure as attorney general proved that fear to be correct.

[DENVERPOPS]

15. I feel the same way

about the performance of the guy before Garland.....Mueller????????????????

WASF

[Ol Janx Spirit]

51. Muller was hand-picked by Rod Rosenstein who was appointed by Turnip to be...

...deputy attorney general. Muller's own background was being the FBI director appointed by George W. Bush. Did anyone really think that investigation was going anywhere? I was shocked that it resulted in charges against 34 individuals and three companies.

There was no world in which an investigation by an appointee of an appointee of the guy being investigated under a department of justice being run by the guy being investigated was ever going to actually point a finger at the guy being investigated.

Garland--having been appointed by Biden--should have had free reign to investigate anything Turnip did without fear of it being quashed by the Biden Administration.

[Kid Berwyn]

10. Corrupt actions of a corrupt pee-residunce.

So glad the Supreme Court is watching over him not.

[gfarber]

12. Revenge

A president fumed full of spite,
Launched probes in the dead of the night.
Schiff’s now in the fray,
Like Letitia James was one day—
For daring to challenge his might.

Old Trump, with a grudge in his grip,
Sics Justice on Schiff for a trip.
“Fraud!” he declared,
(Though projection is shared),
Revenge with a MAGA-red whip.

[MyOwnPeace]

24. Great stuff, but.....

I’m not sure it is a ‘grudge’ in his grip…….
unless that’s another name for a mushroom…..

[SunSeeker]

17. Trump has already poisoned the jury pool making it untriable, and made clear it is political prosecution.

A jury will not convict, but it will cost money to defend, which is punishment in itself.

[2na fisherman]

18. Filing a false report?

"We rely on our lender partners, servicers, and other members of the mortgage industry for identification of potential mortgage fraud. Have information about mortgage fraud? Complete and submit the Suspected Mortgage Fraud Report or call 1-800-2FANNIE (1-800-232-6643)."
Per this quote from the Fannie Mae website, it seems almost anyone may make a report. So if he is actually charged, Schiff's defense team should make a motion for discovery as to who made the report and discover if it was a "Trumped up" charge. He has the right to face his accuser(s) but they may be cowards hidden by "whistleblower" protections. Shine the lights on these cockroaches who use the justice system to promote smear campaigns just to get negative headlines and never intend to charge someone with a crime. "Just say there was fraud..."

[Orrex]

19. Is it too much to ask that he die shrieking in horrific agony?

[Celerity]

26. Apparently so.

[marble falls]

27. My money's on Adam Schiff.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

30. Same tactic he is trying on Powell over renovations to Fed Reserve offices. . . . nt

[Joinfortmill]

31. Can we rid ourselves of this roach named Trump?

[LoisB]

36. Is there enough Raid in the country?

[calimary]

47. I'd add only one word.

WHEN can we rid ourselves of this roach named trump?

[Bayard]

37. Schiff already answered this nonsense in a video yesterday

My understanding is that trump is accusing him of mortgage fraud for having a house in Calif, and one in DC. Like trump doesn't have 10 different houses.

[kentuck]

44. They also got him on video jaywalking in 1997...

They will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

53. Maddow Blog-Trump escalates attacks on Adam Schiff, accuses Democratic senator of criminal fraud

The authoritarian vision is unsubtle: Trump hates Schiff, so the Democrat has been referred to the Justice Department for possible criminal prosecution.

Link to tweet

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-escalates-attacks-adam-schiff-accuses-democratic-senator-crimina-rcna219062

On Tuesday morning, the president, himself a convicted felon, used his social media platform to accuse Schiff of “mortgage fraud” and being “a Crook.” Soon after, Trump declared on camera that he would “love” to see the Californian “brought to justice.”

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3ltzhttnp2z2j

Link to tweet

As The Washington Post reported, at least some officials in the administration appear to be taking this seriously.

A senior administration official told The Washington Post that a criminal case had been referred to the Justice Department, in a sharp escalation of the White House’s attacks on vocal Trump critics. ... The senior administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said criminal prosecution is now up to the Justice Department. The official added that ‘this is just the beginning, unfortunately,’ for Schiff.

.....To the extent that the underlying substance matters, the allegations appear quite thin. From the Post’s report:

Designating a home as a primary residence, instead of a secondary home or investment property, can get borrowers lower rates because primary homes are seen as less risky to lenders. But a spokesperson for Schiff’s office said the lenders for Schiff’s homes in both California and Washington were ‘well aware’ of his intended year-round use of both homes while in public office and that neither of the properties was a vacation home.

“This is just Donald Trump’s latest attempt at political retaliation against his perceived enemies,” Schiff wrote online. “So it is not a surprise, only how weak this false allegation turns out to be.”