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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo Mike Johnson went on CNBC this morning and said this about trump:
"His approval ratings are skyrocketing. CNN had a story a day or two ago--he was at a 90 percent approval rating! There's never been a president that high."
As Aaron Rupar put it, "This is truly one of the most outrageous lies I have ever heard, which is really saying something considering how much these folks lie."
I dare anyone to come up with even one example of a Democratic politician who lied to the camera shamelessly and was not called out by the press.

bucolic_frolic
(51,507 posts)BoRaGard
(6,401 posts)disgustipating
The press was Joe Kernan on CNBC giving Johnson a pass.
Kernan is a big buddy of Trump.
senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)Never heard of him. Doesn't sound like I'm missing much.
Zorro
(17,696 posts)senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)describes so much about this administration.
MaineBlueBear
(190 posts)The word "disgustipating" is not a standard English word. It appears to be a misspelling or a combination of the words "disgusting" and "incapacitating." The intended meaning is likely related to something that is extremely disgusting and also makes one feel weak or unable to function.
Srkdqltr
(8,670 posts)senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)I agree with his comment. It was the journalist interviewing MJ who had the duty and responsibility to fact check the speaker.
vapor2
(2,710 posts)Mike Nelson
(10,664 posts)... CNN had something about his approval rating among certain groups. He could have seen a 90% approval rating among pedophiles.
leftstreet
(36,867 posts)depends on the meaning of high
rurallib
(63,924 posts)and a friend back then told me to turn the baseball standings upside down every day when I looked at them. That way the Cubs would be on top from opening day to the end of the season!
Seems like old 'Moses' Johnson is using the same trick with another loser of mythic proportions.
Bristlecone
(10,811 posts)purr-rat beauty
(752 posts)....these vultures are circling the rotting asshole. They know full well if they continue to kiss his ass he won't influence their status (ie: power through the vote). He is allowing them to be corrupt as long as they throw cover for him with his scandals. But little does he know....it's the power they want to keep ahold of after he's gone, they don't give a fuck about him as a person.
Raven123
(6,868 posts)Turbineguy
(39,139 posts)
Dave Bowman
(5,488 posts)Diamond_Dog
(37,652 posts)kerry-is-my-prez
(10,077 posts)Overdosed on the Koolaid.
senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)moderate by the press. Infuriating!
Hekate
(98,589 posts)Someday you, too, could have dead eyes staring out of your face. And no smile personally, I would love to see the smile wiped off your face, Lil Pervy.
senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)At first, I thought he was suffering from a guilty conscience, because people I respect claim that he knows better. But now I just think he's in full cult mode.
Hekate
(98,589 posts)Traildogbob
(11,517 posts)Man that evidently disapproves of pleasurable sex, he knows exactly where the Clit in trumps neck vagina is. Does his son get automatic video feed on his phone when daddy tickles trumps neck clit?
BoRaGard
(6,401 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:47 PM - Edit history (1)
* Asking for those tender innocent souls who may not grok the subtleties of G.O.P. BrownNosing depravities.tulipsandroses
(7,690 posts)Take that with a grain of salt -
I heard that on a podcast - They also noted that the poll was prior to the Epstein blow up.
They also said that the poll did not include " irregular" voters - voters that showed up for trump last election - those voters probably helped him win. The voters from the manosphere, etc.
senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)so it wasn't a podcast he was talking about.
tulipsandroses
(7,690 posts)because this was only republican voters and before the epstein blow up. I don't remember the name of the poll, I'll see if I can find it. Their explanation was this was just a bunch of MAGA voters.
tulipsandroses
(7,690 posts)And therein lies the point: The House speaker pitched a seemingly ridiculous figure, not just to deceive the public, but also because from his perspective, Democrats literally dont count.
Emile
(36,004 posts)The Ninth Commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."
The Wizard
(13,275 posts)are both forms of lying. Speaker Johnson can't help it, lying without compunction is in the GQP DNA. And in Trump's case it's pathological.
BOSSHOG
(43,329 posts)Divine intervention by Rev Mike.
brush
(60,608 posts)90 percent approval ratings for trump...in pedo households maybe.
llmart
(16,640 posts)That's what scares me.
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brush
(60,608 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:32 PM - Edit history (2)
whatever trump tells Li'l Mario they are.
EuterpeThelo
(62 posts)my lifelong BFF and I went down the line of succession and I've rarely felt SO depressed by an exercise. It was at least fifteen people down the line before you could get to anyone who wasn't just a malicious, stupid, lying kiss ass on their face. Sometimes it feels like getting rid of these fascists would be like trying to remove a Borg.
brush
(60,608 posts)as magas hold all the reins of power... the WH, SCOTUS, the Senate and the House. And they all seem to be in on the takeover, except a few district and circuit court judges...who the Supreme Court can overrule.
mwmisses4289
(1,558 posts)mwmisses4289
(1,558 posts)bottomofthehill
(9,215 posts)There is the president, first in line behind him is the VP second in line behind him is the Speaker, third behind him in the President Pro Temp of the Senate then you get to the Cabinet starting with the Secretary of State
Demovictory9
(36,778 posts)Blue Owl
(56,710 posts)
Picaro
(2,107 posts)The US version of Bagdad Bob (if anyone remembers that).
brush
(60,608 posts)senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)And it could describe the entire R Congress (House and Senate) as well as the press.
brush
(60,608 posts)twodogsbarking
(14,458 posts)You can take that many ways, in context or out of context.
Karasu
(1,640 posts)"He's the most popular president ever! Oh, also, we should release the Epstein files."
Donman
(29 posts)HEAD UP HIS ASS. He will need a separate casket for his Pinocchionose when he is ready to meet Jesus.
Paladin
(31,072 posts)And as you know: Jesus is never, ever wrong...
Warpy
(113,703 posts)It has crept up because he's slowly coming to terms tbat while Putin is flattering him and being charming, he's also a snake and a liar and a murderer. King Prat has had a terrible and prolonged time coming to the realization that he's not the charmer and deal maker, Putin is. It's been even harder for him to realize he's been played for a sucker, that's still a work in progress.
In any case, the uptick won't last because his fucking stupid tariffs are starting to make themselves felt in the economy by higher inflation.
You know, just like Powell said they would.
Wiz Imp
(6,079 posts)Wiz Imp
(6,079 posts)From Steve Benen on MaddowBlog:
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/weird-reason-speaker-mike-johnson-claimed-trump-90-approval-rating-rcna219651
He did this in his first term, too. After Trumps first impeachment, there was a Senate trial, and on the first article of impeachment, 48 senators voted guilty, while 52 voted not guilty. The president declared soon after, In the Senate, other than Romney, we got 52 to nothing.
senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)I don't mean to discount it, but MJ knows exactly what he is doing. By fudging the numbers and quoting only R results without saying that that is what he is doing, he is intentionally misleading. There is no way that a Dem could EVER get away with that. And yes, as you point out, they keep doing it because the press does not call them out.
TurboDem
(325 posts)something to the effect of (paraphrasing) "From now on I'm going to talk to you people as if the democrats don't even exist." Nothing they say counts for anything." Something like that. It wasn't long after he said that that Jerry Falltohell and Pats Roberts dong were talking the same way.
It looks like the greedy ole pervert party is still clinging to that way of thinking.
doc03
(38,147 posts)Wiz Imp
(6,079 posts)Multiple Presidents had approval ratings among ALL voters higher than Trump's high approval rating amongst only Republicans.
George W. Bush's approval rating was as high as 92% (with ALL voters) just after the 9/11 attacks.
George H.W. Bush's approval rating was 89% (with ALL voters) a month into his term.
Harry S. Truman's approval rating was 87% (with ALL voters) in June of 1945.
Even Barak Obama's approval rating was as high as 76% (with ALL voters) about 2 weeks into his first term
FDR, JFK & LBJ also all had approval ratings which peaked at 80% or higher.
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/presidential-approval/highslows
senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)It's suspicious to me that these highly paid "journalists" don't seem to be able to do what you just did, at least not when R's are misleading them.
Wiz Imp
(6,079 posts)effect) has Trump at only 84% approval amongst his own voters.
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_fFL8Pon.pdf
GiqueCee
(2,572 posts)... "Moses" Johnson requires a remedial reading of the 9th Commandment: "THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS."
Try to parse it all you want, Mikey, you asshole, it STILL means DO NOT LIE! And no, crossing your fingers doesn't absolve you. And don't drag your poor son into this, either; he's got enough emotional problems trying to curb your weinie-whacking to internet porn.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,414 posts)her "Christianity." She said god doesn't mind lying if it's to support RWers or some such weasley nonsense.
She would regularly assign her third grade class coloring papers so she could sit at her desk & do her home banking, bill paying, online shopping, etc. She said Jesus/God was just fine with that, too.
Face it, the RW reinvented Jesus as someone who agrees with them--their own fears, hatreds, weaknesses, etc., not someone whose teachings they must agree with & follow.
Mr. Evil
(3,351 posts)Isn't that usually about the return for Putin in Russian elections? 90%... give me a fucking break.
I'm not a religious freak or a believer in magic words, ceremonies and rituals. But, we do, from time to time, get to see in real time how easy it is to sell one's soul.
struggle4progress
(123,806 posts)Published Jul 18, 2025 at 10:38 AM EDT
By Martha McHardy
US News Reporter
... The polling comes after Trump had seen an uptick in approval ratings in several polls following an earlier plunge to an all-time low for his second term after protests in Los Angeles and airstrikes in Iran.
But new polls indicate Trump's approval rating is slipping. If the trend continues, Democrats could regain ground they lost last cycle, reshaping the 2026 midterms and the broader balance of power heading into 2028 ...
The downward trend marks a sharp contrast to earlier in the year. In May, Big Data Poll had Trump narrowly above water at +1 (48 percent approve, 47 percent disapprove). That figure was already a notable drop from January, shortly after Trump returned to office, when the pollster recorded one of his strongest ratings: 56 percent approval and 37 percent disapproval, a net positive of +19 ...
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-negative-polls-low-2100704
struggle4progress
(123,806 posts)By STEVE PEOPLES and LINLEY SANDERS
Updated 11:44 AM EDT, July 17, 2025
WASHINGTON (AP) Only about one-quarter of U.S. adults say that President Donald Trumps policies have helped them since he took office, according to a new poll that finds underwhelming marks for him on key issues, including the economy, immigration, government spending and health care ...
In fact, the Republican president fails to earn majority approval on any of the issues included in the poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. Hes even slipped slightly since earlier this year on immigration, which has consistently been a strength for him in his second term ...
Roughly half of U.S. adults report that Trumps policies have done more to hurt them since his second term began six months ago, the survey found. About 2 in 10 say his policies have not made a difference in their lives, with about one-quarter saying his policies have done more to help them ...
https://apnews.com/article/poll-trump-approval-policies-economy-health-immigration-45681b8cd07782ba7a143d323efe9dd7
kacekwl
(8,473 posts)Johnson was pantsed and stuffed in a locker in his younger days ? Maybe even this month.
struggle4progress
(123,806 posts)LoisB
(11,103 posts)struggle4progress
(123,806 posts)July 18, 2025, 2:49 PM EDT
By Steve Benen
A few months ago, Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders appeared on Fox News and boasted that Donald Trumps approval rating was soaring. It wasnt: The Republican governor just made that up.
Around the same time, Alina Habba, a Trump-appointed acting U.S. attorney, also boasted on Fox News that the presidents public support was skyrocketing, with an approval rating that has reached an all-time high of anyone. That was false, too ...
... the president has repeatedly demonstrated that he has an unnerving habit of making up approval ratings for himself. And at first blush, thats the easy explanation for why Johnson would peddle such an absurdity to a national television audience ...
Consider the CNN poll the congressman was referring to. The networks national survey actually showed Trump with a 42% approval rating, which was roughly in line with recent averages. In fact, The New York Times has a frequently updated graph, reflecting polling averages, and it currently shows 52% of the public disapproves of the president, while 44% approve ...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/weird-reason-speaker-mike-johnson-claimed-trump-90-approval-rating-rcna219651
senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)so they do it some more.
Metaphorical
(2,472 posts)Just not by the corporate (Trump) friendly media.
We have an echo chamber effect here. Traditional corporate media is dying: its influence on the Internet is and has been fading for a long time, but that media still has an outsized influence in Washington, DC.
The corporate media is an odd beast. It doesn't necessarily reflect reality. Its audience is and always has been a core cadre of influential power movers and shakers. Those who follow that media of course want to be part of that cadre, but generally aren't. This is what many people, even many Democrats, don't really understand - such media really don't care about anyone unless they are in the group they want to influence.
At the same time, when the influential become uncomfortable (even worried) about how they themselves are being perceived, the media mogul faces a problem - do they curry favor with the autocrat if it reduces its influence on its core group, or do they become more adversarial.
This is why the Epstein case is such a big deal. Pedophilia is condemned because as a society we are (theoretically) protective of our children. It's a very dark stain on one's reputation precisely because of that condemnation, and while these people may be morally bankrupt, the image that they want to project about themselves falls apart when they are seen to support such heinous activity. Moreover, this is an absolute case of guilt by association: if you are as associate of a leader who is believed to be a pedophile, does this mean that you are a pedophile also? Whether or not they actually are is irrelevant, it is the belief that is important here, and it is a belief that is remarkably difficult to dispel once established.
The rube farmer in the MAGA hat is a frequent target on DU, but he or she is also a distraction. The real danger comes from the corporate executives and eight+ figure investors who quietly backed Trump in order to gain fiscal and power advantages of their own, who don't really care about his morals, but do care about the perception of their own by their own backers. Right now, they are weathering the storm, hoping that something will come along to get the issue out of the news cycle, but Trump's past IS catching up to him, and the more that others get splattered with his s**t, the more THEY will call for his removal.
Ironically, this is a vicious cycle, because those calls of course amplify Trump's many failings, which only increases the blowback on his moneyed supporters. They are now wondering whether it is time that Trump be fired and replaced with someone who doesn't have all of the man's baggage. Trump's attitude is to cow the corporate media, but that only works for so long before fear of Trump becomes replaced by fear of a loss of reputation in that media's core constituency because of Trump.
XCSki
(21 posts)Sure, 90% among his gop boot licking lock steppers who clearly adore felons and rapists.
GAJMac
(246 posts)You shall not bear false witness.
Do this often enough (read this as "be a Standard Republican" the Bible says that you are of your Father the devil (John 8:44) and you will spend all eternity with Satan in Hell.
So much for Moses Johnson.
Marcuse
(8,546 posts)Same as "Love your neighbor.."
Seinan Sensei
(1,067 posts)As Speaker of the House of Perdition
Always and forever.
In perpetuity
Historic NY
(39,142 posts)Trueblue Texan
(3,488 posts)He just failed to qualify his statement. What he meant was, TSF's approval skyrocketed to 90 percent among the pedophiles in our nation. So he left out that little qualifier...no biggie. Don't take his words out of the actual context in which they are, in fact, true.
Norbert
(7,170 posts)if they were polling members of the Heritage Foundation.
spanone
(139,652 posts)His legacy will be destroying the good ole USA and supporting a 34 times convicted felon and abjudicated rapist.
Fuck this shitstain.
Ocelot II
(126,069 posts)Who ya gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?
traveler50
(8 posts)That media is owned by Republicans. There will never be fair and balanced reporting until the laws change.
senseandsensibility
(22,917 posts)
appleannie1
(5,299 posts)What are the media organizations afraid of? Tell the damn truth. That is your JOB.
quakerboy
(14,454 posts)And pay attention to the unspoken parts.
"he was at a 90% approval rating (among those we plan to allow to vote)"