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live love laugh

(15,692 posts)
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 08:58 PM Jul 18

Epstein had legitimate business dealings with people like Bill Gates

He was a financier who put together deals.

The difference between Bill Gates and even Clinton is whether they repeatedly frequented his pedo palaces.

Show me the number of trips made by Trump vs. others…the number of calls. We need more than names we need context.

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Epstein had legitimate business dealings with people like Bill Gates (Original Post) live love laugh Jul 18 OP
Ok, sure. CentralMass Jul 18 #1
Because one ☝🏾 mention equals 10? live love laugh Jul 18 #2
Anyone associated with Epstein is suspect. CentralMass Jul 18 #4
Ha Ha. Bill Gates was a known adulterer who cavorted with hookers in public, and was pals with Epstein. Irish_Dem Jul 18 #3
I didn't know that. live love laugh Jul 18 #5
I knew about the adultery and the Epstein friendship fujiyamasan Jul 18 #7
Here you go. Irish_Dem Jul 19 #17
Thanks for the links fujiyamasan Jul 19 #23
Right!!! Then they get with people who clown up their faces uponit7771 Jul 19 #26
I Was So Shocked When That Came Out DET Jul 18 #13
Bill Gates could have had all the consensual free sex he wanted. Irish_Dem Jul 19 #16
I just did a search and found out Google has wiped out many of these stories. Irish_Dem Jul 19 #18
To be somewhat fair... TommyT139 Jul 19 #27
And the Epstein revelation probably led to his divorce WarGamer Jul 19 #24
Einstein revelation: Celerity Jul 19 #33
lol!!! That was quite the "mistype" WarGamer Jul 19 #34
Of course MorbidButterflyTat Jul 18 #6
My understanding is he tried to create a modern salon. Ferryboat Jul 18 #8
I don't think that Epstein had any legit businesses. yardwork Jul 19 #19
Giving away money TommyT139 Jul 19 #28
Uh, no TnDem Jul 18 #9
👍🏽 My bad i thought he was decent. live love laugh Jul 18 #10
There are facts re Bill Gates TommyT139 Jul 19 #29
REPUTATION LAUNDERING? Xoan Jul 19 #32
Not likely TommyT139 Jul 19 #35
At this point there is no legitimate reason whatsoever fujiyamasan Jul 18 #11
He was a fraud! Faux pas Jul 18 #12
Bill Clinton had official business in Africa over setting up Aid services there and was loaned a plane. flying_wahini Jul 18 #14
That was why I posted this ... I can see individuals going once not knowing but repeatedly is inexcusable. live love laugh Jul 19 #15
well, yes. And never forget-- Trump and Epstein were BEST FRIENDS for over 10 years!!! LymphocyteLover Jul 19 #20
I just saw that Trump visited Epstein 97 times‼️‼️ live love laugh Jul 19 #22
Bill Clinton is mentioned in the flight logs at least 44 times indusurb Jul 19 #31
If Epstein was using his connections to money and power, I would imagine karynnj Jul 19 #21
Nope angrychair Jul 19 #25
Disagree anyone could've been misled ONCE... live love laugh Jul 19 #30

Irish_Dem

(72,750 posts)
3. Ha Ha. Bill Gates was a known adulterer who cavorted with hookers in public, and was pals with Epstein.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:23 PM
Jul 18

This is why his wife divorced his ass.
He humiliated her once too often.

The Epstein horror show was the final straw.

fujiyamasan

(521 posts)
7. I knew about the adultery and the Epstein friendship
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:40 PM
Jul 18

Which sounds like it understandably disgusted Melinda.

Do you have a link to the part about prostitutes?

Irish_Dem

(72,750 posts)
17. Here you go.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:17 AM
Jul 19

1. https://nypost.com/2021/05/10/bill-gates-womanizer-held-nude-pool-parties-biographer/
"Gates would visit one of Seattle’s all-nude nightclubs and hire dancers to come to his home
and swim naked with his friends in his indoor pool,"

2.https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/553918-bill-gatess-reputation-reeling-from-affairs-uncomfortable/
Bill having affairs in the workplace and being accused of sexual harassment. Had to pay off employees.

"The Journal also reported that the breaking point to their marriage started when Melinda was upset at Bill for wanting to arrange a meeting with Epstein in 2011, which marks three years after Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting a minor for prostitution.

3. Interesting as I was researching this topic, Google refused to show more articles stating my search was a violation
of Bill Gate's privacy. But at the time of the Gates' divorce there were quite a few stories about how Bill was a constant
in the Seattle nightclub scene, complete with hookers and party girls. I guess when you are rich you can get all those stories
erased from the internet and then have AI give you a stupid lecture.

Bill Gates didn't give a damn about the privacy of the young girls he was raping at Epstein parties.

fujiyamasan

(521 posts)
23. Thanks for the links
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:06 PM
Jul 19

Crazy stuff. What is it about all that money making them such ass holes to their spouses? Similar with Bezos.

Their exes seem a lot more sane.

DET

(2,128 posts)
13. I Was So Shocked When That Came Out
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:44 PM
Jul 18

I always thought that Bill Gates was one of the few faithful men of the billionaire class. Such a disappointment to find out that he’s just as bad as the rest.

Irish_Dem

(72,750 posts)
16. Bill Gates could have had all the consensual free sex he wanted.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:56 AM
Jul 19

But he wanted street and party hookers.
And raping children.

Irish_Dem

(72,750 posts)
18. I just did a search and found out Google has wiped out many of these stories.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:21 AM
Jul 19

I am getting a stern AI lecture that we should respect people's privacy.
Not denying the stories of course.

But yes at the time of the divorce there were many stories about Bill Gates and his visits to nightclubs
with strippers and hookers.

TommyT139

(1,658 posts)
27. To be somewhat fair...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:34 PM
Jul 19

...anyone can request that a Google search result about them can be removed. There are reasons why they might not, and we don't have "the right to be forgotten" that other countries do, but it is an option.

(I'll dig up a link to be sure it's still a possibility.) (Update: yep, and improved it.)

https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/yes-you-can-remove-your-personal-info-from-google-search-heres-how

https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/online-security/google-just-made-it-easier-to-remove-your-personal-info-from-search-results-heres-how-to-do-it

https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/9673730?hl=en

I suspect this is one of those internet features that are implemented to stave off actual regulations and laws to protect privacy, but hey, we won't be getting those ever.

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,377 posts)
6. Of course
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:36 PM
Jul 18

Epstein had to do legit business in public, he was also a philanthropist.

Maybe there are people who want to accuse Stephen Hawking of being a pedophile.

Ferryboat

(1,172 posts)
8. My understanding is he tried to create a modern salon.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:53 PM
Jul 18

Gathering of intellectuals or like minded such as writers for 'stimulating conversation'.

More common in the past.

yardwork

(67,345 posts)
19. I don't think that Epstein had any legit businesses.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:02 AM
Jul 19

I have never seen any indication of that.

A lot of "philanthropists" give money in return for good publicity and attention. Their gifts also open doors for them.

There have been a number of scandals involving big name donors. Giving away money doesn't prove you're a good person.

TommyT139

(1,658 posts)
28. Giving away money
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jul 19

...can be a form of money laundering, exchanging it for social credit, influence, tax deductions, etc. Epstein donated a lot to Harvard, I think...which gave him privileges he wouldn't have had otherwise, as a non-alumnus.

I'm not saying that's what he did -- I suspect a lot will come out with any investigation into the $1.5 billion.

TnDem

(1,165 posts)
9. Uh, no
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:57 PM
Jul 18

Using Bill Gates as a messenger of light and having "legitimate" business deals with Epstein is obfuscating at best.

Gates is a philandering, controlling, gently smiling authoritarian piece of shit.

Don't elevate him at all when discussing Epstein.

TommyT139

(1,658 posts)
29. There are facts re Bill Gates
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:52 PM
Jul 19

...regardless of motivations.

Bill Gates to give most of his $200bn fortune to Africa
2 June 2025

The Gates Foundation said it had three priorities: ending preventable deaths of mothers and babies, ensuring the next generation grows up without having to suffer from deadly infectious diseases, and lifting millions of people out of poverty.


Source:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4qg5gzgzxo

TommyT139

(1,658 posts)
35. Not likely
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:59 PM
Jul 19

Gates, per NYT, met Epstein in 2011. He and Melinda were active in public health in Africa for a decade or more by then.

I'm not saying he isn't smarmy. But anyone who wants to see him as entirely evil has to reckon with the millions of lives he's helped save through maternal health programs, HIV prevention, anti-malaria efforts, nutritious rice distribution, and lots else.

Black and white thinking isn't reality-based this time - as valid as it may be as a personal preference.

fujiyamasan

(521 posts)
11. At this point there is no legitimate reason whatsoever
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:07 PM
Jul 18

To keep anything about Epstein hidden.

The only time the government is so paranoid about keeping things this secret is when it claims it’s about “national security” and usually of course it’s a bullshit excuse. That’s why we it has taken decades even for the Kennedy assassination stuff to come out.

I’m convinced it’s to avoid embarrassing a certain country in the Middle East, who I believe cultivated ties with Maxwell or her father.

flying_wahini

(8,157 posts)
14. Bill Clinton had official business in Africa over setting up Aid services there and was loaned a plane.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 11:56 PM
Jul 18

He was on the manifest for the flight. I doubt he would stick around for the pervs after the Monica scandal.

Just my opinion.

live love laugh

(15,692 posts)
15. That was why I posted this ... I can see individuals going once not knowing but repeatedly is inexcusable.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:39 AM
Jul 19

LymphocyteLover

(8,434 posts)
20. well, yes. And never forget-- Trump and Epstein were BEST FRIENDS for over 10 years!!!
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:09 AM
Jul 19

There's no way Trump isn't neck deep in Epstein's perversions and we know of the Katie Johnson allegations.

karynnj

(60,433 posts)
21. If Epstein was using his connections to money and power, I would imagine
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:23 AM
Jul 19

that it benefits him to have a (legitimate) connection with Clinton. I think he also gave money to prestigious universities. He also contributed to political campaigns, probably because big donations do give access. Though I think all of us would wish to get money out of politics, it is a legitimate way to get access. He likely needed a cloak of respectability to draw in many of the powerful who had dark urges he satisfied and then presumably blackmailed.

I think the money trail that Senator Wyden and staff are following may prove far more than the files. Knowing who sent money would be very interesting as it might be very hard to define a reason for doing so.

angrychair

(10,925 posts)
25. Nope
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:09 PM
Jul 19

Anyone that had any dealing with that guy should be considered a criminal until proven otherwise.

Yes, I mean anyone.

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