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kentuck

(114,447 posts)
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:11 PM Jul 20

Is it remotely possible that this Epstein story can change the thinking of a few QAnon or MAGA true believers?

Is it possible that a few might actually escape the cult?

The very fact that they do not automatically accept Trump or Bondi's attempt to delay and hide the information, is evidence that they have gone out the door.

And are they able to see that Trump is willing to use Judges to help himself politically? Such as when he sued the WSJ and Rupert Murdoch, he went to his favorite Judge in South Florida - Judge Aileen Cannon?

On edit: Popov on Meidastouch reports that Trump team avoided Aileen Cannon?

And he hopes he can get a couple of Judges to rule that the Grand Jury testimony can be released?

But that the real truth is that the information that MAGA and QAnon, and their supporters are looking for, is in the thousands of files that Bondi has agreed not to make public, at the behest of Donald J Trump?

So much for an independent Justice Department.

Is it possible that some of them might escape??

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Is it remotely possible that this Epstein story can change the thinking of a few QAnon or MAGA true believers? (Original Post) kentuck Jul 20 OP
Nope. efhmc Jul 20 #1
Among the millions of MAGAT'S there might be a dozen or two. NoMoreRepugs Jul 20 #2
they will explain it away as "5D chess" or some other insanity cadoman Jul 20 #3
Republicans are such terrible "liars"... kentuck Jul 20 #4
not likely. trump is the new jesus to them and they love his morals nt msongs Jul 20 #5
No Playingmantis Jul 20 #6
Look around. Kid Berwyn Jul 20 #7
He is desperately trying to change the channel Keepthesoulalive Jul 20 #8
To believe that Trump is the "deep state" is to either believe he is protecting someone else or... kentuck Jul 20 #11
Trying to find rationality in insanity Keepthesoulalive Jul 20 #17
If Musk really runs third party candidates Johonny Jul 20 #9
That is the danger that awaits... kentuck Jul 20 #12
Yes. He peeled off the Nick Fuentes/hardcore QAnon Nazis Arazi Jul 20 #10
It's ultimately about the economy... AntiFascist Jul 20 #13
it's like Cohen said Skittles Jul 20 #14
Well, he did just call a bunch of them "stupid" and "weaklings." GoCubsGo Jul 20 #15
No, it's evolved little since pizzagate usonian Jul 20 #16
Not likely, but don't think it will help trump. Of course, he can always deport a bunch of poor immigrants to boost MAGA Silent Type Jul 20 #18
Not likely. StarryNite Jul 20 #19
YES, it is quite likely that "a few" of them will escape... Jack Valentino Jul 20 #20
They're not going to admit it blubunyip Jul 21 #21
No. You don't leave the cult. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 21 #22

cadoman

(1,552 posts)
3. they will explain it away as "5D chess" or some other insanity
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:17 PM
Jul 20

"Mango was just trying to get everyone talking about Epstein", "This is all part of the plan", etc.

But you never know. People do change but usually just a handful of times in their life. I think it's more likely that Medicaid rollbacks and tax and food price increases, etc. will flip the qanon crowd.

The party that can provide financial security (or trick the public into thinking it will, as is the case with Repukes) takes the independent voters.

Playingmantis

(443 posts)
6. No
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:26 PM
Jul 20

They didnt care when he was caught bragging about assaulting women, cheating on his wife, paying off a porn star to remain silent with campaign funds. making learing comments about his daughter, being convicted of sexual assault, having about 20 women claim he assaulted them..so NO I dont think this band of fascists will care about this...sadly

Kid Berwyn

(21,582 posts)
7. Look around.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:27 PM
Jul 20

The MAGA are breaking out in assholes and shitting bricks.

“We supported him economically, not for Epstein blah de blah blah blah.”

It’s time to encourage their impending demise.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,589 posts)
8. He is desperately trying to change the channel
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:33 PM
Jul 20

Everyday he searches for a new distraction. Normally he stays on message because it works, but right now nothing is working and the deep conspiracy magats believe he is now part of the deep state. They have based their worth on prosecuting the democrats for child abuse. They want their money’s worth and he is not going to deliver.

kentuck

(114,447 posts)
11. To believe that Trump is the "deep state" is to either believe he is protecting someone else or...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:57 PM
Jul 20

...he is protecting himself? What do they believe? Do they rationalize it to that finer point?

Or do they say, "Oh, he's just doing what he said he was gonna do..."?

Johonny

(24,276 posts)
9. If Musk really runs third party candidates
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:34 PM
Jul 20

Then it is more than remotely possible as he controls a social media company that can push Epstein and Trump much to the disadvantage of the GOP, but to the advantage of the Musk Is Just As Big An Asshole Party.

kentuck

(114,447 posts)
12. That is the danger that awaits...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:58 PM
Jul 20

... and he could create a huge chasm in American politics, including both major Parties.

Arazi

(8,217 posts)
10. Yes. He peeled off the Nick Fuentes/hardcore QAnon Nazis
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 09:46 PM
Jul 20

It’s going to take chipping away at these cult groups like these fringe nutsos.

He also lost Candace Owens and her groupies with this latest bullshit.

The real test is if it lasts

AntiFascist

(13,580 posts)
13. It's ultimately about the economy...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:01 PM
Jul 20

Trump has proven himself to be at service of the wealthiest of his donors, at the expense of the mass majority of MAGA. The Epstein controversy only fits right in, that he will hide any evidence implicating his elite associates who are involved in human trafficking, even though he had used exposing the Epstein files in order to gain political power amongst his base of support.

Skittles

(166,360 posts)
14. it's like Cohen said
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:09 PM
Jul 20

if any MAGAts "wake up", it's NOT because they grew a conscience, it's that Trump's grift is starting to STINK

GoCubsGo

(34,123 posts)
15. Well, he did just call a bunch of them "stupid" and "weaklings."
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:15 PM
Jul 20

And, "foolish." Then there was his whole "I no longer need you or your votes" tirade... He's all pissy, because they're still demanding that he release the files/evidence. I don't think these MAGAts are taking kindly to being called those names. Looks like he's already losing a number of them.

usonian

(19,415 posts)
16. No, it's evolved little since pizzagate
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 10:15 PM
Jul 20

It is only a ruckus because it looks like Trump and friends letting the sex-trafficking, cannibalistic dems skate.

So they are busy doctoring files to create that. Expect all real evidence to already be refuced to atoms ( and electrons and so on)

AI will do it all.

Silent Type

(10,564 posts)
18. Not likely, but don't think it will help trump. Of course, he can always deport a bunch of poor immigrants to boost MAGA
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:49 PM
Jul 20

approval.

Jack Valentino

(2,890 posts)
20. YES, it is quite likely that "a few" of them will escape...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 PM
Jul 20

and a few more might fail to vote in the midterm elections!

(they were never that big on elections which didn't have Trump on the ballot anyway)

blubunyip

(243 posts)
21. They're not going to admit it
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:43 AM
Jul 21

typically, but the enthusiasm is waning… Exiting from a cult is like waking up from a long dream and not wanting to get out of bed. But they will have to eventually.

I’ve got time for those MAGAS who admit their mistake, especially if they apologize for the consequences of their addiction. Anyone who is still defending the murderous regime, without a shred of doubt or conscience— they are lost, so let them go.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,517 posts)
22. No. You don't leave the cult.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:38 AM
Jul 21

Until the space ships come or you drink the Fla-Vor Aid.

These people always find a way to get back on board.

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