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Pototan

(2,744 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:31 AM Yesterday

I don't get it. Re: DOJ

There is a civil rights division in the Department of Justice. Any alleged antisemitism at any college or institution should be handled by that department. And if that institution is found guilty or responsible for any violation, fines and sanctions can be imposed.

Certainly, federal funding is not eliminated by a President's executive order. The DOJ would make recommendations on changes that any institution should make.

I don't get it.

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Biophilic

(5,888 posts)
1. The bottom line is that the whole thing has little or nothing to do with antisemitism.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:50 AM
Yesterday

It’s just a hook for control. The thing I don’t seriously understand is how ALL the republican lawmakers are just going along with the whole thing.

dhol82

(9,580 posts)
2. I don't get the republicans either
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:52 AM
Yesterday

All I can think of is they have been promised a really big pay off day.

Biophilic

(5,888 posts)
3. But how big a payoff do you promise to throw your countrymen and women under the tank treads?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:02 AM
Yesterday

We’re not just talking some minor changes and discomforts.

newdeal2

(3,422 posts)
7. They've allowed it. If we get back into power, we better use it
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:30 AM
Yesterday

Target the schools where racism, sexism, and bigotry are tolerated and celebrated.

WmChris

(364 posts)
4. Power
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:38 AM
Yesterday

Autocratic, theocratic, misogynistic, oligarchy they seem to want us serfs on our knees at their gated communities begging for some way to feed our families.

Scrivener7

(56,492 posts)
5. I think a number of methods are being used to control the republiQans.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 08:38 AM
Yesterday

First, there's flat-out compromat on some of them. Lindsay Graham, for one. I would bet there are many more, but those are simply much smarter and don't make it as obvious as Lindsay.

Second, there's the threat of removing the loyalty of the base. Cankles has had an iron grip on the affection of the base, and with a word could ruin the re-election prospects of anyone who crossed him.

Third, there's money. Musk, Theil and many others like them are the teat that feeds the republiQan party since Citizens United.

Today, though, I think we are seeing Cankles's grip on the base slipping, which is encouraging. And I think there is reason to question whether Musk or Theil are still funding maga. With these under-the-table meetings in Montana and the breakup between Musk and Cankles, I tend to think that is a legitimate question.

I have been like Charlie Brown with the football for 40 years, hoping Cankles would face justice. I won't believe it till I see it, but I'm beginning to have hope again.

lark

(25,254 posts)
6. This is nothing but a pure power play to change America to a nazi nation.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:24 AM
Yesterday

They hate liberal educted democracies and want to end all of them arouand the world so the oligarchs are in charge of everything.

indusurb

(166 posts)
8. Republicans don't want an educated public, antisemitism is just the latest excuse to attack higher education
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:58 AM
Yesterday

This goes back to 1954, when, in the midst of a boom in college graduates and a rise in the middle class, a conservative political scientist/philosopher named Russell Kirk came out with a book titled "The Conservative Mind." In it he postulated that the rising numbers of folks who were middle class, and the rising numbers of college graduates was a bad thing, a threat to orderly society. His prediction was that if people were better off, and better educated these masses would start agitating for things like expanded civil rights, more government benefits like single payer health care, etc. At the time, and for about ten years afterwards he was laughed out of the park.

Fast forward to the mid'60's, the Civil Rights movement is achieving victories, anti war protests are in full swing, kids are burning draft cards, the gay rights movement, the women's movement were waiting in the wings, it looked to conservatives that the country was going crazy. To quote the godfather of rap, Gil Scott-Heron, "First one wants freedom, then the whole damn world wants freedom." Conservatives freaked, then recalledthat book they scorned a decade earlier, by God, Kirk was right, an expanded middle class, more folks with a college education, it rips apart the social order. The middle class becomes more demanding, college kids are more liberal, they had to shut it all down.

The seventies were not a favorable time to start the process of turning that ship around, though some progress was made. The oil embargo and subsequent recession cut into the middle class a bit. It was also the time when wages, minimum and otherwise, stopped keeping up with inflation. Reagan, as governor of California, eliminated free tuition in the state's college system. But outside matters kind of derailed the work of being a wrecking ball. The whole Nixon fiasco, Ford was a placeholder put in for one reason, to pardon Nixon, and Carter simply wasn't going to join in.

But here came Ronnie Reagan in the eighties, he broke the back of the unions, pared down tuition assistance to virtually nothing, privatized the student loan process, the carnage was breathtaking. Subsequent presidents followed along, off shoring our manufacturing sector, turning academic institutions into cash cows, etc.

Long story short, they are successfully breaking the middle class. The percentage of the population in the middle class has gone from a high of 65% in the mid '60's down to 44% now, and that number continues to fall. While the percentage of our population with a college degree has risen from 11%, to 37%, the war on higher ed has left a mark. A couple of generations deeply, and seemingly perpetually in dept. Small colleges all over the country are closing, especially in rural areas. Colleges and universities are now havens for big business. When your future career is on the line, when you owe a shit ton of money, you're less likely to rock the boat. That's one reason the establishment freaked at the pro-Palestinian protests, the last time they had seen a multi campus occurrence of civil disobedience was forty years ago.

So the war on higher ed continues with renewed vigor, and the numbers show the story, a year over year drop in graduates the past few years. Funding being withheld. Trump is attacking the Ivy League as part of this assault, though he might have his own personal motivations. Antisemitism accusations are just the latest excuse to destroy academics.

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