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TheProle

(3,549 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:03 PM Jul 21

Hunter Biden blames his father's poor 2024 debate performance on sleeping pill

Hunter Biden blamed the sleeping pill Ambien for then-President Joe Biden's disastrous debate performance against Donald Trump last year.

The younger Biden made the remarks in an expletive-laden interview on YouTube's "Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan" that was released Monday, the first anniversary of his father's decision to drop out of the presidential race.

"I know exactly what happened in that debate. He flew around the world, basically mileage that he could have flown around the world three times, he’s 81 years old, he’s tired as s---, they give him Ambien to be able to sleep, he’s gets up on the stage and he looks like he’s a deer in the headlights," Hunter Biden said in the interview.

"And it feeds into every f---ing story that anybody wants to tell."

The former president's office declined to comment.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/hunter-biden-blames-joe-bidens-poor-2024-debate-performance-sleeping-p-rcna220057
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Hunter Biden blames his father's poor 2024 debate performance on sleeping pill (Original Post) TheProle Jul 21 OP
This is so sad. I hold his family in my heart today... CTyankee Jul 21 #1
Hunter should stay out of the media. Biden must have better surrogates. tritsofme Jul 21 #2
Right? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 21 #6
this is exactly what I was going to post.... democratsruletheday Jul 22 #46
Definitely worn out. But gave him Ambien before debate, or he was still feeling it 20 hours later? Silent Type Jul 21 #3
I seem to have a memory Tree Lady Jul 21 #9
I take ambien - Ms. Toad Jul 21 #19
Who is supposed to benefit from this? Passages Jul 21 #4
Just himself. Surprise... writerJT Jul 21 #18
Hunter needs to take a seat for awhile. badhair77 Jul 21 #5
Fuck that. At least someone is defending the guy. W_HAMILTON Jul 21 #10
You are correct. greatlaurel Jul 21 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author greatlaurel Jul 21 #25
EXACTLY!!! crimycarny Jul 21 #27
He isn't. He's attacking Dems and giving the GOP meat while the GOP is melting down. themaguffin Jul 21 #37
Flying around the world? Greg_In_SF Jul 21 #7
He wasn't just "flying around the world" as if on vacation crimycarny Jul 21 #30
I never said he was on vacation Greg_In_SF Jul 22 #40
Explaining external circumstances is not the same as excused crimycarny Jul 22 #44
He spent from Saturday to that Thursday morning at Camp David (same time zone as Atlanta debate) muriel_volestrangler Jul 21 #8
Thank you for this reply. Celerity Jul 21 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author tman Jul 21 #11
Shutthefuckup Hunter. You're NOT HELPING. Maru Kitteh Jul 21 #12
Yes. Also, Hunter's driving his father's 1960s Corvette the day after the plea agreement did not help. John1956PA Jul 21 #15
Neither are you tintinvotes Jul 21 #35
The more explaining, the worse it gets. Just stop talking. Srkdqltr Jul 21 #13
Watch the entire interview with Hunter--don't judge on headline or summary crimycarny Jul 21 #14
I empathize with his outrage but he's the wrong vessel for that, in my view. BannonsLiver Jul 21 #16
That's where I am as well SickOfTheOnePct Jul 21 #22
This guy needs to go away. writerJT Jul 21 #17
The horrors of Ambien have been known for decades synni Jul 21 #20
That is NOT what Hunter said crimycarny Jul 21 #21
Had Ambien been the cause... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 21 #23
Well partly he said it himself fujiyamasan Jul 21 #28
Joe Biden has always been a gaffe machine crimycarny Jul 21 #31
Sure age catches up to everyone differently. Katinfl Jul 21 #33
Because right-wing billionaires own our mass media? Mysterian Jul 21 #34
Exactly--I think we're pointing fingers at the wrong person (people) crimycarny Jul 22 #45
I agree with Hunter and furthermore, he has every right to say whatever tf he wants ms liberty Jul 21 #29
Yes! This! crimycarny Jul 21 #32
I'm glad Hunter is speaking out finally. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 21 #36
Hunter needs to shut the fuck up. themaguffin Jul 21 #38
I'm all for Hunter defending his father, and I love Joe. badhair77 Jul 21 #39
"...he's 81 years old, he's tired as shit..." LudwigPastorius Jul 22 #41
He's not helping. Xolodno Jul 22 #42
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democratsruletheday

(1,395 posts)
46. this is exactly what I was going to post....
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 04:47 PM
Jul 22

I can now see why the Repukes went after Hunter. He's a whiny weakling frankly.

Silent Type

(10,563 posts)
3. Definitely worn out. But gave him Ambien before debate, or he was still feeling it 20 hours later?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:12 PM
Jul 21

Not much of an explanation. Doesn’t really matter now.

Tree Lady

(12,570 posts)
9. I seem to have a memory
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:45 PM
Jul 21

That Joe was fighting a cold. I could be wrong. My memory not what it used to be lol.

Ms. Toad

(37,413 posts)
19. I take ambien -
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:14 PM
Jul 21

It has virtually no side effects for me. I don't get the sleepwalking/driving/etc. which many do. I don't have the "hangover" I get with other sleep aids.

But what I do get is an occasional inability to recall the correct words the next day, or string words together fluently. I wouldn't take it before a major stage appearance..

So - yes, he could have been still feeling it 20 hours later, and given the side effects that many have - it could have accounted for a lot of what we saw.

(I have no idea whether he actually took it or not - but I do have relevant experience as to side effects.)

badhair77

(4,929 posts)
5. Hunter needs to take a seat for awhile.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:18 PM
Jul 21

I don’t think he’s helping his father’s cause now.

W_HAMILTON

(9,388 posts)
10. Fuck that. At least someone is defending the guy.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:47 PM
Jul 21

We could have used more of that before the election -- and we certainly could use more of it from here on out, rather than the circular firing squads that many on the left love to engage in.

greatlaurel

(2,018 posts)
24. You are correct.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:46 PM
Jul 21

Thank you so very much for saying this. I am so sick of people attacking Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. Hunter is very brave for speaking out. Wish he had not been muzzled all these years. The man has seen some things and survived more.

I am glad he is sticking up for his dad when few are. His dad was there for him and he is now standing with his dad. Good on him.

Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #10)

crimycarny

(1,873 posts)
27. EXACTLY!!!
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:56 PM
Jul 21

Yes, spot on! Before all of the Hunter Biden smearing by the media, I had read Hunter Biden's book about his addiction and was very impressed by his honesty. So all the "smears" I already knew about because Hunter Biden wrote about them in his book! Including the prostitutes.

One part of the book in particular that really got to me (I cried when I read it) was when Hunter describes an "intervention" that Jill and Joe tried to stage to get Hunter back into rehab. The ruse was a family dinner but as soon as Hunter walked in he saw two counselors from a rehab he'd been to previously. He said he look up at his dad and saw the fear in his eyes. Hunter got angry and walked out, his father (Joe) ran after him saying: "Hunter, I don't know what to do! Tell me what to do!". He said his father just looked terrified and hugged him, crying and asking him (Hunter) how he could help him.

I'm so sick of the circular firing squad, and I'm glad Hunter Biden is calling it out.

Greg_In_SF

(424 posts)
7. Flying around the world?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:22 PM
Jul 21

His own aides already confirmed that he was at Camp David doing debate prep for many days. Oh Hunter.

crimycarny

(1,873 posts)
30. He wasn't just "flying around the world" as if on vacation
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jul 21

He was attending the G7 Summit and then the 80th anniversary of D-Day.

Thirteen days before the debate last year, Biden returned from a trip to Italy for the Group of Seven (G7) summit on June 14, six days before heading to Camp David. Prior to the G7, the former president had a loaded schedule in France for the 80th commemoration of D-Day.

I challenge anyone half his age to hold that same schedule, with all the responsibility it entails.

Greg_In_SF

(424 posts)
40. I never said he was on vacation
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:11 AM
Jul 22

My point is blaming that disaster of a debate on travel that occurred two weeks prior is total BS.

Our guy just had a bad night and it's time to stop making excuses for it.

crimycarny

(1,873 posts)
44. Explaining external circumstances is not the same as excused
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 03:15 PM
Jul 22

Joe Biden himself said he had a bad night. Hunter said in the interview that his dad looked like a "deer in the headlights." Doesn't sound like excuses to me. Sounds like acknowledgment that the debate was bad, and that--looking back--maybe scheduling it right after that sort of schedule wasn't the smartest move.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,228 posts)
8. He spent from Saturday to that Thursday morning at Camp David (same time zone as Atlanta debate)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:40 PM
Jul 21
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/05/biden-sick-debate-camp-david-00166624

The Saturday before that, he had been on the US west coast: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/16/biden-fundraiser-george-clooney-julia-roberts-obama

He had flown there from Italy (9 hour time difference), which is a fair amount, but he had 12 days to get over it. And going back to the east coast removed 3 hours of the difference.

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Maru Kitteh

(30,420 posts)
12. Shutthefuckup Hunter. You're NOT HELPING.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:51 PM
Jul 21

You can’t undo the unfortunate choices you made long ago and this is NOT how you should be trying to soothe the regret you feel, anyway. You are NOT HELPING here.

John1956PA

(4,320 posts)
15. Yes. Also, Hunter's driving his father's 1960s Corvette the day after the plea agreement did not help.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jul 21

tintinvotes

(91 posts)
35. Neither are you
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:54 PM
Jul 21

Hunter is free to speak about anything he wants, just like you. Good for him defending his father, something a lot of DU'ers didn't do, which led to the mess we are in. I hope he keeps speaking.

crimycarny

(1,873 posts)
14. Watch the entire interview with Hunter--don't judge on headline or summary
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jul 21

That is a misleading headline. Hunter didn't "blame Biden's performance on Ambien". He mentioned several factors, including his dad basically traveling the world 3 times over in less than a week. His mention of the Ambien was more of an aside, not the main reason. Haven't we learned yet that the media will take things out of context to sensationalize??

I was very impressed with Hunter's interview. It's almost 3 hours long, and Hunter talks about so many topics. His addiction, the impact of Beau's death, his love and admiration for his dad...so many topics. Yet "Hunter blames Biden's debate on Ambien" is all the media reports on. And that is very much out of context if you watch his entire response. The entire response about his dad's debate starts at about 2:24:00. If you watch this in context, Hunter's response was nothing but a full-throated defense of his father.

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Here is an example of the comments on the interview:

1. As a conservative, watching this interview was one of the healthiest things I have done on YouTube in a long time. Humanizing Hunter as a son, brother, and father helps me realize that I must not judge people without knowing them. My right leaning news sources can polute my mind as well as far left leaning media outlets. I've now recognized that I had a blind spot.

2. There's a lot of honesty here. As an addict myself, it's easy to see when someone is just saying the things you want to hear. I don't think that's the case here at all. The way he keeps saying "I'm not unique", it seems like he really understands it and means it. Amazing interview.

3. Well Im not a hater anymore. Sucks I fell for it. Mad props to Hunter for doing this on Channel 5 and nowhere else. Dude seems like a real one.

BannonsLiver

(19,444 posts)
16. I empathize with his outrage but he's the wrong vessel for that, in my view.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:09 PM
Jul 21

He has had some self-owns that didn't do his father any favors.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,245 posts)
22. That's where I am as well
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:37 PM
Jul 21

I don't begrudge the guy defending his father - any son who is close to his father would do the same. But he and his antics were an albatross around his dad for his entire term in office.

synni

(483 posts)
20. The horrors of Ambien have been known for decades
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:14 PM
Jul 21

Only a fool of a doctor prescribes it...especially for an elderly person.

More importantly--if someone is having an adverse reaction, why would you not reschedule the debate for medical reasons?

crimycarny

(1,873 posts)
21. That is NOT what Hunter said
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:33 PM
Jul 21

I urge those taking the article and its headline at face value to please listen to the entire interview in context.

Start watching about 2:20:00 to get the entire context (debate comes in around 2:24:00)

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SickOfTheOnePct

(8,245 posts)
23. Had Ambien been the cause...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:40 PM
Jul 21

...and I don't think that in the full context of the interview Hunter made that claim, it would have been disastrous to ask for a delay due to medical reasons. Media of all stripes (right more than left, obviously) were discussing whether or not President Biden was too old or healthy enough for a second term.

To postpone the debate due to health reasons would have ended his candidacy even sooner, IMO.

fujiyamasan

(520 posts)
28. Well partly he said it himself
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:59 PM
Jul 21

His dad was 81, running for president, and may have had sleep issues due to travel.

That’s understandable… Hunter is his son, and he’s welcome to defend his dad in any forum he wants.

But that doesn’t explain a lot of Biden’s other comments forgetting people or places. The problem is the debate wasn’t just an isolated incident. It also reinforced the public’s preconceptions about his age, which was a prevailing concern for voters for a while.

The reality is he was in no shape to run again and wasn’t for months (maybe even over a year or longer) even before the debate. Age catches up to everyone very differently.

crimycarny

(1,873 posts)
31. Joe Biden has always been a gaffe machine
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:14 PM
Jul 21

Seriously, I'm surprised at those slamming Joe Biden when he stood up there and held a press conference for hours after his "disastrous" debate. He answered questions for over an hour from the Press and did it flawlessly until he introduced Zelensky as "President Putin"-- immediately correcting himself--but that's all the press reported on.

It's like me calling one of my kids by the wrong name. I didn't "forget" their name, I simply used the wrong one and immediately corrected myself--we all do that.

Should Joe Biden have run for a second term? No. Was Joe Biden getting older? Yes. Was Joe Biden suffering from dementia? NO. If so, he wouldn't be able to do what he is doing now, showing up in public, doing interviews (coherently). He'd have gone way downhill by now if he had dementia, and he hasn't.

Katinfl

(440 posts)
33. Sure age catches up to everyone differently.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:33 PM
Jul 21

So explain to me why trump gets a free pass with the media when he cannot even put a sentence together? So many issues caught up to Biden with that debate, but cognitive issues were not one of them. Biden at his absolute worst is better than trump on his best day.

crimycarny

(1,873 posts)
45. Exactly--I think we're pointing fingers at the wrong person (people)
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jul 22

The GOP managed to get a complete idiot like Trump re-elected, even after some far more disastrous appearances than the Joe Biden's performance at the debate. Like standing on stage for 30 minutes dancing to Ava Maria (twice), then YMCA, swaying bizarrely and not saying a word for 30 minutes. Imagine if Joe Biden had done that?

But the GOP got him elected, and the Democrats couldn't get a far more qualified candidate elected.

If debates were so important, then why didn't Kamala win after she creamed Trump at their debate?

I'll tell you why: the Democrats' circular firing squad. Same circular firing squad that lost us a Senate seat (Senator Al Franken), helped lose the 2016 election (infighting over Bernie versus Hillary), and lost the 2024 election.

I will always be a Democrat, and I don't mean my post to seem like I'm "bashing" Democrats as a whole. But, come on, the Democrats have a long history of shooting themselves in the foot. I hope someone steps up and changes that.

ms liberty

(10,425 posts)
29. I agree with Hunter and furthermore, he has every right to say whatever tf he wants
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:01 PM
Jul 21

About anything. The RWNJ's used his life as fodder for their hate mongering, and it should never have even been a subject in the first place. He knows his dad better than anyone and if he wants to talk, let him. It's time to point out to any Repukes that Hunter never had an office in Joe's WH.

crimycarny

(1,873 posts)
32. Yes! This!
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:16 PM
Jul 21

It's GD time someone has the balls to fight back. I'm so sick and tired of the acceptance of the media's spin. It's so refreshing to see Hunter finally take on the lies with no f*ks to give.

badhair77

(4,929 posts)
39. I'm all for Hunter defending his father, and I love Joe.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:19 PM
Jul 21

That’s why I said Hunter should hold off for “awhile.” But now with every future interview Joe will be bombarded with questions about his son’s f bomb laden interview. He could have stated his thoughts more thoughtfully, as opposed to “fuck insert a name here.” I think it will distract from everything else Joe will have to say.

LudwigPastorius

(13,056 posts)
41. "...he's 81 years old, he's tired as shit..."
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:29 AM
Jul 22

That particular defense of your dad's debate performance doesn't help like you think it does.

Xolodno

(7,092 posts)
42. He's not helping.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:34 AM
Jul 22

Instead he is giving quotes for the GOP to use. And his father is not going to run again, nothing to defend, it's over. There were a lot of problems, not just one and cumulated into a bad situation.

Only the GOP wants this to continue as they think they can run on it. Don't give them anymore ammo and move on. We need to hit them where it hurts, the issues and Trump.

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