I Told You Putin Was Behind Epstein Gate

[gab13by13]

Who was the main person to push Epstein Gate in the beginning? Putin pal Elon Musk. Make no mistake Putin knows everything that Krasnov did with Epstein.

Why did Epstein Gate happen? Krasnov started to bad mouth Putin publicly about the war in Ukraine. Krasnov talked about sending weapons to Ukraine again, talked about letting the EU buy US weapons and then transferring them to Ukraine. Krasnov talked about more sanctions on countries that do business with Russia.

BOOM - Epstein Gate

Guess what folks? Krasnov is backing away from sending more weapons to Ukraine. Krasnov is backing away from the EU buying our weapons deal. Krasnov is backing away from sanctions on doing business with Russia,

WHY? Epstein Gate. Putin reminded Krasnov who his daddy is.

We all knew that Krasnov was Epstein's best friend, we all knew that he flew on the Lolita Express, we all knew that he was in the little black book. Putin also knew, and that's why this resurfaced.

[Chasstev365]

1. I think Putin has a Trump/Katie Johnson tape

[AllaN01Bear]

9. i hope someone has a putin tape

[yardwork]

2. This is possible.

Earlier I thought Trump was using the threat of releasing names to blackmail people. I'm starting to think I gave him too much credit.

It makes sense that Putin is doing this, since he's demonstrated that he controls a lot of online propaganda. This Epstein thing isn't slowing down.

[johnnyfins]

3. If the WSJ story was a one off, we will know

it was a warning. If the floodgates open and more stories are published, the PTB want TSF out.

[Amaryllis]

10. what is PTB?

[Botany]

12. (T) P T B

(The) Powers That Be

[PatSeg]

23. Thanks, that acronym was a bit of a stretch

I would have never guessed it.

[yardwork]

18. It's all over the internet and that smells like Putin and Musk to me.

I'm sure Musk is amplifying it like mad. He figures that he made Trump president and now he can destroy him.

Vance is waiting in the wings.

[FakeNoose]

4. We have heard hints and rumors that Epstein was in cahoots with a Russian oligarch of some type

... whether it has been Pootie all along, well that remains to be seen. The evidence is in Epstein's banking records and wire transfers.

Maybe Pootie is pulling the strings behind Musk? That wouldn't surprise me. Is Rupert Murdoch also in on this? I wouldn't know but there's definitely a conspiracy of ultra-wealthy ultra-conservative white men and it reaches beyond the borders of the USA.

What does Pootie gain by releasing the "pee-tape" or worse, and bringing Chump down totally? This is the part that doesn't make sense. He (or they) would only do that if they feel they don't need him anymore. That's when we'll see the entirely of the Epstein documents and not until then.

[womanofthehills]

16. Darrel Cooper said Epstein was freelance

Working with wealthy people all over the world - he was an expert in hiding their money.

[PatSeg]

24. Maybe Putin has a spare in J.D. Vance

Trump may have outlived his usefulness for Putin. It appears Donald thought he really was in power and that he could do whatever he wanted. Vlad probably has other ideas.

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. While Putin may be pleased, he didn't cause this

A thousand FBI agents worked long shifts for a month flagging the Epstein files for mentions of Trump.

Some of Those with a conscience leaked to the press after Pam Bondi, at Trump’s direction, claimed there was nothing there and nothing would be released.

That’s what triggered this whole thing, and the fact that it originated from the Trump administration is what makes it so powerful and immortal.

If it had just been an isolated leak about a birthday card without Bondi’s unforced error, the MSM would have moved on by now.

[FakeNoose]

7. I hope you're right about this, because I want to believe in the integrity of those FBI investigators

It might be politically corrupt at the top, but I want to believe that the rank-and-file are still dedicated to their mission. They are probably just as disgusted with Blondi as we are.

[gab13by13]

28. Good to know that Putin didn't cause this,

I believe that Putin used Musk to light the Epstein fire.

Musk made some very incriminating claims about Krasnov being on the Lolita Express, being in the little black book.

It absolutely was Musk who reignited Epstein Gate.

Krasnov was bad mouthing Putin about Ukraine. Krasnov was talking about sending weapons to Ukraine again. Krasnov was talking about the EU deal for weapons for Ukraine. Krasnov was talking about sanctioning countries that do business with Russia.

WTF changed Krasnov's mind?

Krasnov will not be bad mouthing Putin - let me know if he does.
Krasnov will not be sending weapons to Ukraine - let me know if he does.
Krasnov will not make a deal with the EU to buy our weapons and ship them to Ukraine - let me know if he does.
Krasnov will not be imposing sanctions on countries that do business with Russia - let me know if he does.

Krasnov got the message loud and clear so Putin will allow an escape hatch from Epstein Gate.

Epstein Gate will fizzle out as long as Krasnov backs off Ukraine and sanctions.

[Fiendish Thingy]

29. Regarding Trump's reversal on Ukraine, the TACO theory applies

And he may re-reverse himself at some point in the future.

I’m not seeing a connection between that and Epstein.

Musk may have rage- tweeted about Epstein, but that didn’t ignite the current fiasco, it was Bondi’s blunder.

Krasnov got the message loud and clear so Putin will allow an escape hatch from Epstein Gate.

Are you suggesting that Putin controls the US and worldwide media, as well as the MAGA faithful, and can order them all to stand down and walk away from this story?

[TheProle]

40. Glad to see all the recs your post is getting, FT

And best wishes to anyone playing a drinking game based on "Krasnov" references.

Alcohol poisoning is a bitch.

[Fiendish Thingy]

41. Some nicknames are cute and clever

Others not so much, but generally I find they diminish whatever message the writer was intending to convey.

Sometimes the obscure nicknames remind me of this scene from A Day At The Races:

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“Getta your Tutsi frutsi ice cream!”…

[kentuck]

6. I believe the weapons deal was made when Biden was President?

They had already been promised those weapons and Trump is going back on the promise.

[IbogaProject]

15. T agreed to the weapons sales using EU money

I don't recall the timing, but T is getting pulled back and forth by our own wealthy vs Putin and crooks T associates with.

[pecosbob]

8. Epstein made his money at Bear Stearns laundering Russian money

Plucked from obscurity by Alan Greenberg after being fired for poor performance from his teaching job, Epstein rose through the ranks at Bear Stearns until fired for Reg. D violations...money laundering for the Russians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

[FakeNoose]

19. There was an interesting profile from 2003 in Vanity Fair, entitled "The Talented Mr. Epstein"

... and it's by none other than Vicky Ward!

https://web.archive.org/web/20150612144453/http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303

Ward goes into his early career at Bear Sterns, and includes Epstein's introduction to extremely wealthy men such as Leslie Wexner (among others). This article is quite an eye-opener to the fashionable life of young Jeffrey Epstein.

Vicky explained years later that her mentioning Epstein's attraction to underage girls was edited out of this article even though she had corroborated sources. She assumes that Epstein himself demanded that the girl-stuff be removed before publication.

[AntiFascist]

27. Epstein was technically a "money manager"...

JP Morgan Chase settled a lawsuit brought by the USVI for $75 million for failing to report human trafficking through Epstein's account.

USVI said JP Morgan kept Epstein as a valued client even after his 2006 arrest on prostitution charges and related guilty plea two years later, and said some bank officials stayed in touch with him long after he was dismissed.

Both lawsuits exposed deficiencies in JP Morgan’s oversight of clients, including many communications where employees urged the bank to stop doing business with Epstein.
...
JP Morgan had argued that the USVI was also to blame for enabling Epstein’s sex trafficking by giving him tax incentives and waiving monitoring requirements, in exchange for cash and gifts to local officials, including a former first lady.

Epstein had owned two private islands within the territory, including one he allegedly bought to keep onlookers from spying on his misconduct on the other.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/sep/26/jpmorgan-jeffrey-epstein-lawsuit-settlement-us-virgin-islands

Epstein was a Deutsche Bank client from August 2013 to December 2018, when the relationship ended after further negative press surfaced about his misconduct.

The transactions processed by the German bank included payments to alleged accomplices, lawyers, victims, Russian models and women with Eastern European surnames, and "suspicious" cash withdrawals averaging $200,000 a year.
...
New York said Epstein had more than 40 Deutsche Bank accounts, some of which were for the "Butterfly Trust", whose beneficiaries included co-conspirators in alleged sexual abuse.

This created a risk that payments could be used to "further or coverup criminal activity and perhaps even to endanger more young women," the New York settlement, which reflected Deutsche Bank's cooperation over several years, revealed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/business/epstein-red-flags-russian-models-land-deutsche-bank-150-million-fine-idUSKBN2481WA/

Who were these co-conspirators?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. You present no evidence. Correlation is not causation. You told us speculation, not fact. Putin is the easy go to. . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. I have seen no reports about your assertions re weapons deals and sanctions

Please provide links.

Krasnov is backing away from sending more weapons to Ukraine. Krasnov is backing away from the EU buying our weapons deal. Krasnov is backing away from sanctions on doing business with Russia,

[yardwork]

20. This is all speculation, of course.

Putin (and other billionaires) are easy go-tos when there is sustained amplification on the social media, and we're seeing that.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Indeed. But report on DU says the bots are confused because maga is confused. . . . nt

[yardwork]

26. As long as people are talking about it, though...

I really don't know. It's certain that there are bad actors with a lot of money and power. It's also certain that many of them are drug-addled incompetents. Do we give them too much credit? Not enough?

[gab13by13]

30. Even a Bing search will get one to this

Pete Hegseth canceled weapons that were appropriated to Ukraine, twice,

Krasnov claims ignorance of what Hegseth did.

Oops wrong link, hold on.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pete-hegseth-approved-halt-of-weapons-shipments-to-ukraine-without-telling-trump/ar-AA1IePQC?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[muriel_volestrangler]

39. That's from 8th July, and is about Hegseth, not Trump

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/08/politics/hegseth-did-not-inform-white-house-ukraine-weapons-pause

Well after that, Trump OKed the European purchase and transfer of weapons to Ukraine - which is what you're claiming he's going back on.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-celebrates-trumps-weapons-reversal-devils-details-2025-07-16/

It's not that we think Trump isn't capable of reversing that; it's just that you're claiming he already has, which seems to give up on Ukraine.

[ananda]

14. Sure looks that way, doesn't it?

Thank you

[flamingdem]

17. This sounds more than plausible

Worried about Ukraine.

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. Can anyone, not just the thread starter, explain "Krasnov is backing away from sending more weapons to Ukraine"?

I can find no news report about this - and it's far more important than "Putin is controlling Musk".

[tritsofme]

34. Product of OP's imagination.

[Emrys]

38. I doubt it.

Folks will no doubt have gathered I keep my ears close to the ground where Ukraine's concerned. Nobody's counting chickens until they've hatched, but I haven't caught a whiff to date of any such reversal on the impending shipments. If I do, I'll probably post about it if someone else hasn't already.

All the OP's cited in "support" is a week-old news story found by a Bing search from The US Mirror via MSN revisiting how Hegseth supposely freelanced in halting arms supplies to Ukraine. That's pretty old news by now.

[applegrove]

25. Apparently the european press is speculating that

what Putin had on Trump was Epstein.

[Irish_Dem]

31. Puzzle pieces all falling into place.

[applegrove]

32. The Europeans are more suspicious of Putin because

they have to live so close to him.

[Irish_Dem]

33. Yes, not as brainwashed as Americans.

Much more in touch with reality.

[applegrove]

35. I don't know if it is true that Putin leveraged Epstein over Trump.

[Irish_Dem]

36. There is a known Russian money link to Epstein.

We know Putin has been grooming Trump for decades to act as his puppet.

We know Putin loves blackmail material.

We know Trump is Putin's lap dog.

Connect the dots.

[applegrove]

37. To me they are still dots.