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Aviation Pro

(14,655 posts)
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:11 AM Jul 24

Got a theory why the Epstein files are resonating so much

With the fucking MAGAts and why the fucking pedophile is feeling the heat.

A lot of them, not all of them, were victims of sexual abuse at the hands of older men.

And yes that includes girls and boys.

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Got a theory why the Epstein files are resonating so much (Original Post) Aviation Pro Jul 24 OP
Because it was implied that it was dems Cosmocat Jul 24 #1
This is true NJCher Jul 24 #3
That is true for sure Cosmocat Jul 24 #33
If there were pedophiles who happened to be Dems Aviation Pro Jul 24 #4
There's been a lot of abuse in plain sight in their lives bucolic_frolic Jul 24 #2
You have to be brutally groomed to lose your humanity... ananda Jul 24 #6
Whether you're rich or poor, 'brutally groomed' applies. nt babylonsister Jul 24 #38
There must be a myriad of things that happened to these people in their youth to cheer on... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 24 #5
It absolutely is prevalent! Do a little research on incest. The numbers are shocking. littlemissmartypants Jul 24 #13
And of course, if she gets pregnant, it's "God's will"that she has the baby Walleye Jul 24 #26
And it'll be raised as a little sister or brother... littlemissmartypants Jul 24 #27
My grandfather was 20 years younger than his oldest sister Walleye Jul 24 #30
Interesting. ... littlemissmartypants Jul 24 #32
Oh, I know it could've been completely straightforward. But it's kind of a mystery. Walleye Jul 24 #37
I do love a mystery, Walleye. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jul 24 #40
Seeing that in those days the mom might have karynnj Jul 24 #35
my children druidity33 Jul 25 #42
This is it misanthrope Jul 24 #41
MAGAs/GOP don't care at all about children being raped. Irish_Dem Jul 24 #7
Murdoch is taking down his creation. rubbersole Jul 24 #18
Yes the monster they created has turned on them. Irish_Dem Jul 24 #31
I don't think edhopper Jul 24 #8
But I can believe a third have. And his rabid base is about there. Scrivener7 Jul 24 #9
So 90% of abuse vistims edhopper Jul 24 #29
As a young person who experienced potential SA I say quit ignoring the problem there is more abuse than you know Stargazer99 Jul 24 #14
I have no doubt there is a lot of it edhopper Jul 24 #28
Every woman I know, including myself, has been SA in varying degrees in her lifetime. Coventina Jul 24 #36
Numerous studies edhopper Jul 24 #39
I agree. Scrivener7 Jul 24 #10
It took me well into my forties to even begin JMCKUSICK Jul 24 #11
Yeah, sexual abuse of children is rampant Farmer-Rick Jul 24 #12
Musk. SSJVegeta Jul 24 #15
There was a discount store my Mother used to take me to and the owner was always friendly to me kimbutgar Jul 24 #16
I was sexually abused by my grandmother, while she gave my two cousins and myself a bath. It hurt. I thought it was debm55 Jul 24 #20
I'm sorry 😞 MustLoveBeagles Jul 24 #25
Hear, hear ZDU Jul 24 #17
It's a pretty widely recognized hypothesis in psychology that abusers were abused. Sogo Jul 24 #19
The latest in a series of things that aren't going well. Adding up, for the time being. We'll see how the WH deals wiggs Jul 24 #21
I do want to thank Elon nowforever Jul 24 #22
There could be truth to that, of course, but I have a different theory. hamsterjill Jul 24 #23
Why DOJ's withholding of the Epstein files so upsets Trump's base- Roughly a third of MAGA Republicans qualify as QAnon LetMyPeopleVote Jul 24 #24
I think many are sick of him, but won't admit their mistake tinrobot Jul 24 #34

Aviation Pro

(14,655 posts)
4. If there were pedophiles who happened to be Dems
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:25 AM
Jul 24

Then the fucking pedophile would have ordered the release of the material long ago.

I’m getting the feeling that prominent Democratic politicians are not on the list at all, but donors may be a different story.

bucolic_frolic

(52,027 posts)
2. There's been a lot of abuse in plain sight in their lives
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:17 AM
Jul 24

or they would not be so dysfunctional in the way they think and act. They are not strong, boundaried people.

ananda

(32,874 posts)
6. You have to be brutally groomed to lose your humanity...
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:56 AM
Jul 24

the way Trump and practically all Republicans have lost theirs.

Sex abuse has definitely been part of it to some extent.

Ol Janx Spirit

(386 posts)
5. There must be a myriad of things that happened to these people in their youth to cheer on...
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:53 AM
Jul 24

...things like immigrants being eaten by alligators. Sexual abuse is probably high on the list--especially for those pushing the Epstein conspiracy.

Sadly, sexual abuse in many different forms is probably way more prevalent than we would like to believe. People do not want to talk about it, so it remains a hidden epidemic that expresses itself in society in any number of unhealthy ways.

Walleye

(42,078 posts)
30. My grandfather was 20 years younger than his oldest sister
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jul 24

Recently, I started wondering if she was really his mother. He was especially close to her. I’ve been told. Of course this is all before my time.

littlemissmartypants

(29,117 posts)
32. Interesting. ...
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 03:11 PM
Jul 24

That would also have been prior to prevalent and easily accepted birth control for women. So, it could be he was a late in life baby. It's possible to think menopause is over then to be served with a surprise bundle.

karynnj

(60,481 posts)
35. Seeing that in those days the mom might have
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:37 PM
Jul 24

had her first child at 19 or 20. It is entirely possible to have a later child at 40.

druidity33

(6,811 posts)
42. my children
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 06:15 AM
Jul 25

are 18 years apart. Wife had the first one when she was 19...

so yeah, you're absolutely correct.



misanthrope

(9,066 posts)
41. This is it
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:22 PM
Jul 24
Sadly, sexual abuse in many different forms is probably way more prevalent than we would like to believe. People do not want to talk about it, so it remains a hidden epidemic that expresses itself in society in any number of unhealthy ways.


That is what I believe.

Irish_Dem

(73,408 posts)
7. MAGAs/GOP don't care at all about children being raped.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:57 AM
Jul 24

MAGAs who have been SA as kids would be inclined to keep everything a big secret
and let Trump get away with it.

The rest of the GOP would rape and kill as many kids
as it takes to get what they want. They are psychopaths.

The reality is that the billionaires and powers that be are tired of Trump.
They want his power taken away.

rubbersole

(10,310 posts)
18. Murdoch is taking down his creation.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jul 24

News Corp. should be next. There's a long list after that.

Stargazer99

(3,263 posts)
14. As a young person who experienced potential SA I say quit ignoring the problem there is more abuse than you know
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 10:50 AM
Jul 24

as this type of abuse is not talked about due to shame

edhopper

(36,571 posts)
28. I have no doubt there is a lot of it
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jul 24

just not half the population.

Actually more than half since not all who were victims of this voted for Drumpf. So it's all MAGA voters, plus the Harris voters who were victims.

Those numbers aren't supportable.

Coventina

(28,580 posts)
36. Every woman I know, including myself, has been SA in varying degrees in her lifetime.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:42 PM
Jul 24

For women, the percentage is 80-90%, unless my life is an anomaly. But I don't think it is.

edhopper

(36,571 posts)
39. Numerous studies
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:47 PM
Jul 24

Put it at 20% to 25:%.
Which is alarming and way too high, but not 80 to 90

JMCKUSICK

(3,670 posts)
11. It took me well into my forties to even begin
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 10:20 AM
Jul 24

To acknowledge that I have been sexually abused. What makes it so difficult is that I remember the acts, even the places, but most of what I felt during these events is still buried in a concrete cask.
I'm guessing there are millions who are experiencing the Epstein stuff in an emotionally charged way, and God forbid more of the specifics come out where a lot of us will recognize that this was me in some capacity too.

Farmer-Rick

(11,954 posts)
12. Yeah, sexual abuse of children is rampant
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 10:37 AM
Jul 24

It's been institutionalized in many organizations. Such as the Catholic Church, most all religions, (wasn't one of Muhammad's wives 9 years old?) children sports activities and schools. It's been commonly accepted and allowed to flourish.

So, not surprised many people were victims and have an emotional reaction of disgust and hate about it.

kimbutgar

(25,858 posts)
16. There was a discount store my Mother used to take me to and the owner was always friendly to me
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:11 AM
Jul 24

And once I was I the toy section and he came up and grabbed me by my pu$$y. I was uncomfortable but didn’t tell my Mom. The next time we went I told her I didn’t want to go and after a while of questioning I admitted what happened. I will never forget the look on her face. We ended up going there and my Mother made a big scene in the store and told him off in front of his wife and daughter and we left. She told my Dad at dinner that night and he wanted to go there right away but the store was closed. on the weekend he went and got inthe guys face also. It turns out he had done it to several little girls and it had been reported got the police. This was in the late 60’s. We never went there again.

debm55

(50,261 posts)
20. I was sexually abused by my grandmother, while she gave my two cousins and myself a bath. It hurt. I thought it was
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:49 AM
Jul 24

Last edited Thu Jul 24, 2025, 04:19 PM - Edit history (1)

wrong. Took me a long time to tell my Mother. She brushed it off. I cried. Grandmother is long dead. But I still bear the pain in my heart. I was around 5 to six

ZDU

(672 posts)
17. Hear, hear
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:20 AM
Jul 24

It's a life of fucking hell & shame when no one, no adult, believes you... and worse yet when you, the child, believe the assault and abuse was all your fault

wiggs

(8,362 posts)
21. The latest in a series of things that aren't going well. Adding up, for the time being. We'll see how the WH deals
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:51 AM
Jul 24

with all the losses.

 

nowforever

(586 posts)
22. I do want to thank Elon
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:02 PM
Jul 24

Thank you for your rage moment that had you speak a truth we all have known

hamsterjill

(16,380 posts)
23. There could be truth to that, of course, but I have a different theory.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:13 PM
Jul 24

The Trumpers always accuse everyone else of what they are guilty of. In Trump's case, he's accusing anyone he can think of just to get the attention off of him. Asshole.

My favorite QAnon idiot posted on Facebook yesterday that Virginia Giuffre had told investigators that Barack Obama was on Epstein Island frequently and that *he* wanted thirteen year old boys. Obviously, not true. Reported her on Facebook for all the good that will do. Blatant lies shouldn't be allowed to stand, but we are past that point. But you see where this is going.

Anyway, Trumpers and MAGA and all of the religious cultists are hung up sexually and get their kicks off of deviant behavior. That's why they accuse everyone else of doing it.

LetMyPeopleVote

(168,504 posts)
24. Why DOJ's withholding of the Epstein files so upsets Trump's base- Roughly a third of MAGA Republicans qualify as QAnon
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jul 24

A good percentage of trump supporters are QAnon idiots and Epstein is a big deal to these nutcases.



A lot of you may be mystified as to why DOJ’s withholding of the Epstein files so upsets Trump’s base.

It’s very simple.

👉 Roughly a third of MAGA Republicans qualify as QAnon believers.

👉 QAnon teaches that government, media, and financial elites are Satanists who sex-traffic children.



tinrobot

(11,702 posts)
34. I think many are sick of him, but won't admit their mistake
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 06:43 PM
Jul 24

Epstein is a good enough reason to dump Trump. They don't have to admit fault, and can blame him instead.

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