"Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt join call for Hamas to disarm, give up Gaza rule"

[lapucelle]

Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt join call for Hamas to disarm, give up Gaza rule

United Nations (United States) (AFP)

Arab countries including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt joined calls Tuesday for Hamas to disarm and end its rule of Gaza, in a bid to end the devastating war in the Palestinian territory.

Seventeen countries plus the European Union and Arab League threw their weight behind a seven-page text agreed at a United Nations conference on reviving the two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians.

"In the context of ending the war in Gaza, Hamas must end its rule in Gaza and hand over its weapons to the Palestinian Authority, with international engagement and support, in line with the objective of a sovereign and independent Palestinian State," said the declaration.

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The text also condemned the deadly October 7, 2023 attacks by Hamas against Israel, something the UN General Assembly has yet to do.

France, which co-chaired the conference with Saudi Arabia, called the declaration "both historic and unprecedented." "For the first time, Arab countries and those in the Middle East condemn Hamas, condemn October 7, call for the disarmament of Hamas, call for its exclusion from Palestinian governance, and clearly express their intention to normalize relations with Israel in the future," said French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250729-qatar-saudi-egypt-join-call-for-hamas-to-disarm-give-up-gaza-rule

[RandySF]

1. When will everyone else do the same?

[lapucelle]

5. President Macron is filling the leadership vacuum created by the election of Donald Trump.

Alas, there were some folks who thought it was more important to punish Democrats than it was to help lead the region to a two state solution.

Macron has made no secret of his goal of leading the region (indeed, the world) to an agreement in which both Israel and Palestine are recognized as legitimate states.

Most people are as unaware that the UN General Assembly never condemned Hamas's genocidal October 7 rape-torture-murder spree as they are that 28 UN member states still refuse to recognize Israel.

[KentuckyWoman]

41. The old ladies agree

We have 12 who get together Weds for games. The convo today was how Macron has stepped into a global leadership role while America goes insane.

[lapucelle]

42. It's nice to know that people are talking about this.

It's given very short shrift in the MSM and twitterverse.

[AntiFascist]

2. This could finally bring about peace, and Netanyahu finally face the music! n/t

[JustAnotherGen]

3. This is a really BFD

I can't imagine anyone who wants the Gazans out of harms way would disagree with the PLO taking control of Hamas' weapons and Hamas stepping down.

[lapucelle]

6. I agree, but the news isn't getting much play in either the MSM

or in the twitterverse.

[PeaceWave]

4. The Pro Hamas people are going to be twisting themselves in knots over this development.

[Cha]

7. Wow.. grateful For

All these Countries Calling Out Hamas on their Invasion of Butchering, Raping, and Stealing Israelis frm their homes and Murdering them.

Mahalo, lapucelle

[Igel]

20. Nor would we be here without Gaza lying in ruins and

putatively 60,000 Palestinians dead and many more wounded.

[JustAnotherGen]

22. Agreed

Hamas woke a giant sleeping beast with that Pogrom.

I think it might be the first time in history Jewish human beings ever retaliated for a Pogrom. Centuries of being hounded, exiled, murdered, blood libel just blew up in Hamas face.

It's intergenerational trauma that I would compare to what Black Americans have experienced. We've just never retaliated.

Israel is lucky to be getting out of this so soon. We were in Afghanistan for 20 years. 20 years.

For ten years AFTER Bin Laden's death.

Let this end now, and get those children fed.

[EdmondDantes_]

26. I'm confused by this

Israel has absolutely responded to previous Hamas attacks and various attempts by neighboring countries to invade them.

Is it the scope of the October 7th attack which was a definite increase in the scale (if not the intent because Hamas has always been terrorists) of Hamas violence? The scope of Israel's response?

[JustAnotherGen]

34. Screams Without Words

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That is what Hamas did on October 7, 2023. That wasn't another country attacking Israel.

That was a Pogrom of utter destruction.

Screams without words.

This is probably the first time those screams of a murderous pogrom was responded to by a Government.

For centuries - the Governments of Europe in particular were in on it.. I'm glad Europe is stepping up - their faces aren't clean.

[EdmondDantes_]

46. So the scope of the attack

Thanks for clarifying.

And nobody has clean hands. Not Europe, not the other Middle Eastern countries. Hopefully this is a legitimate change.

[JustAnotherGen]

51. Clean Face

My husband is off the plane from Calabria. In the dialect - it means "intent" not actions.

[lapucelle]

30. September 2023: "Israel on the cusp of historic peace with Saudi Arabia, Netanyahu announces at UN"

Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the Palestinian Authority were close to normalizing relations in September 2023.

Shortly after the October 7 attacks, there were analysts saying that stopping the deal was one of Hamas's major motivations for their genocidal rape-torture-murder spree. Once Saudi Arabia recognized Israel's sovereignty and right to exist, Hamas knew that their game would be up and the "river to the sea" claims with it.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced on Friday that Israel is at the cusp of a “dramatic breakthrough”: a historic peace deal between his country and Saudi Arabia.
22 September 2023.

“Such a peace will go a long way in ending Arab-Israeli conflict and will encourage other Arab States to normalize their relations with Israel,” he said, adding that it will also enhance prospects of peace with the Palestinians.

The agreement, he emphasized will “encourage a broader reconciliation between Judaism and Islam, between Jerusalem and Mecca, between the descendants of Isaac and the descendants of Ishmael.”

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/09/1141302

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What’s happening with normalising ties between Saudi Arabia and Israel?
21 September 2023

Saudi Arabia willing to normalise relations with Israel in exchange for a US defence pact and civilian nuclear programme. For months, Saudi Arabia and Israel – with the United States – have been discussing an agreement to normalise relations.

The US has made it clear that official relations between its two allies in the Middle East is a top priority, with top diplomat Antony Blinken declaring it a “national security interest“.

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So what are Saudi Arabia’s conditions for normalisation?

Riyadh wants a US defence pact – including fewer restrictions on US arms sales to it – and assistance in developing its own civilian nuclear programme.

It also said any deal would require major progress towards the creation of a Palestinian state, which is a hard sell for the most religious and far-right nationalist government in Israel’s history.

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What did Israel say?

On Thursday, Israel’s foreign minister struck an optimistic tone, saying he expects a deal to be reached soon.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/21/whats-happening-with-normalising-ties-between-saudi-arabia-and-israel

[lapucelle]

31. September 21, 2023: "How has the Palestinian Authority reacted [to the Israel-Saudi Arabia deal]?"

How has the Palestinian Authority reacted?

In a bid to win over the PA, Saudi Arabia has offered to resume financial support to it after aid dropped to zero in 2021. According to a report by The Wall Street Journal, a delegation of PA officials last month went to Riyadh to press for their own set of conditions in exchange for acquiescing to Saudi Arabia normalising ties with Israel.

The conditions include the reopening of the US consulate in occupied East Jerusalem, which former US President Donald Trump closed in 2019. The PA has also asked the US to back full Palestinian representation at the United Nations.

Other conditions include Israel giving the PA more control over some parts of the occupied West Bank and getting rid of illegal Israeli outposts.

This has been a far cry from how the PA reacted when Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates announced normalisation with Israel in 2020. At the time, the PA accused the Gulf states of stabbing it in the back.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/21/whats-happening-with-normalising-ties-between-saudi-arabia-and-israel

[JustAnotherGen]

35. They were so close

And this hate group Hamas had to fuck it up.

[EllieBC]

43. SA wanting to normalize relations with Israel

is the biggest threat to the extreme Islamist world. No way Iran was going to let that happen.

[Cha]

24. Its self evident.. No Excuses

For The Terrorist cult Hamas.

[JustAnotherGen]

8. Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt

Condemning the October 7 Pogrom is a big change. That's one hell of an olive branch they are extending to Israel.

[lapucelle]

10. Indeed. All the right folks must be spitting mad: Hamas, Trump, Netanyahu, and the "river to the sea" contingent.

Imagine how much stronger this movement to finally achieve a two state solution would have been with President Harris's State Department at the helm.

[JustAnotherGen]

21. We would have gotten here

Much sooner. Her heart would not have allowed children to starve. Its not in her DNA.

[lapucelle]

9. Macron is a man with a plan.

If Macron pulls this off, he will win the Nobel Peace Prize that Trump craves.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1134144431

[JustAnotherGen]

36. Maybe that will

Trigger the big one for Krasnov.

[brer cat]

12. This is huge! K&R

[lapucelle]

13. There's a whole contingent of folks on twitter too busy discussing Jon Stewart

to notice what happened at the UN yesterday.

[DFW]

14. Sounds like chasing a horse that left the barn after the barn burned down with all the farmers in it

But better late than never, I guess, although we’re pretty close to « never » at this point.

[Torchlight]

16. This seems to mark a major recalibration of Arab state positions

This puts immense pressure on Hamas, especially if Qatar begins to cut or condition its support. This shift in rhetoric looks to me pretty dramatic among players who previously either supported or tolerated Hamas, abd could further isolate Hamas diplomatically, narrowing its options and accelerating a push for new Palestinian leadership.

[mcar]

58. Then why are its leaders allowed to live

in luxury in Qatar?

[Mossfern]

17. Hatikvah

Not the Israeli national anthem - but the translation of the words
"The Hope."
It will be an opportunity for the left wing Israelis to regain power (boy, I miss Rabin)

If this happens, the repair of the Palestinian territories can begin.
Israel will have no excuse to withhold aid or to prevent aid to Palestinians

Trump's hopes of development will be dashed (yay!)
Netanyahu will not be able to avoid prosecution and jail

If this happens, then we all can celebrate and begin to heal
It will take generations, but it needs to start somewhere

[JustAnotherGen]

37. I like this

[Deuxcents]

18. Why don't they follow this up with food and medical aid? Talk is great but they need basic care

[Solly Mack]

25. K&R

[Grokenstein]

27. What difference will it make now?

Does anyone honestly believe Yahoo is going to relent? Eradication is the endgame here. The IDF will continue luring civilians into the open then slaughtering them.

[JustAnotherGen]

33. That's such a simple thing

Hamas cut the breast off a woman while they were raping her. They then kicked it around.

There is nothing anyone can say to make me believe that was okay or they had *reasons*.

In America George Floyd's lyncher had *reasons*. They are all bunk too.

[JustAnotherGen]

32. Hamas has to go

If Hamas is gone - emerged from the Muslim Brotherhood in 1987 - be loses his reason to kill.

I don't understand why the PLO can't take over the Gaza strip and mete out harsh punishment to Hamas.

If I were an Israeli whose ancestors came after the Arab countries ejected them -I would never want to live as one with people who chant slogans which threaten my existence.

If I"m a Gazan - I never want to live with Israelis.

[JustAnotherGen]

39. I don't

I think Israel should cede Gaza. Allow them to be Palestinians. The Arab League can work with Palestine to rebuild a Democratic Society.

One of.my dearest friend's daughter, son in law, and two grandbabies live just outside of Tel Aviv. I've known her daughter since she was a tween. And her husband's name?. Barack! No joke.

I want a big wall between her and Gaza. She's an American I want her and her little family safe.

The pro Gazans people want the same thing for the Gazans. Only way is a massive border wall armed guards on both sides. Visas to cross over.

Shit - I'd like to do that to red states - but our Democratic Party members would be sitting ducks abandoned to blood thirsty magapubs.We can't do that.

[EllieBC]

28. K&R so this is seen more

[LexVegas]

44. Uh oh...this will make the freedom fighter supporters salty. nt

[EllieBC]

45. Yeah I think they're trying to ignore it.

It works much better for them if they can have the narrative that the entire Arab world loves Hamas.

[sarisataka]

47. Some voices are notable by their silence.

I always find it illuminating to see which threads receive little attention.

[Cha]

49. Kicking this good news for the

Morning crowd.

[JustAnotherGen]

54. Indeed it is

Doesn't solve Ukraine's problem from hell - but resolving this is a good start to focusing America's attention on what is happening here with the Krasnov Dictatorship implementing Fascism.

[Cha]

59. Excellent point, Gen...

Mahalo

[Just_Vote_Dem]

52. K & R n/t

[no_hypocrisy]

53. Who's going to "bell the cat"?

[LexVegas]

55. Kick to recognize countries showing real leadership on this issue and condemning the so-called "freedom fighters". nt

[EllieBC]

57. The UN still hasn't condemned the attacks on Oct 7th.

And yet people think the UN’s opinions should matter that much.

[Cha]

60. Mahalo, lapucelle!