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Swede

(37,528 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:15 AM Friday

GOP Silent as Mormon Church Gunman Identified as 'Ultra MAGA' Trump Supporter

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As the nation reels from another devastating mass shooting—this time at a Mormon church in suburban Michigan—Republican leaders have remained notably silent following revelations that the gunman was a devoted Trump supporter who once proudly wore the label “Ultra MAGA.”

Thomas Jacob Sanford, a 40-year-old Marine veteran from Grand Blanc Township, plowed his pickup truck into a local Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on Sunday before opening fire on worshippers. Ten people were shot. Four are dead. The church was later engulfed in flames after Sanford used an accelerant to set it ablaze. Two of the victims died from gunshot wounds, and two more bodies were recovered from the debris.

Sanford in a camouflage Trump 2020 shirt that read “Make Liberals Cry Again,” and a Trump-Pence sign still visible on his front lawn just months ago, the political implications became harder to ignore.

So far, Republican leaders have said nothing.

https://dailyboulder.com/gop-silent-as-mormon-church-gunman-identified-as-ultra-maga-trump-supporter/

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GOP Silent as Mormon Church Gunman Identified as 'Ultra MAGA' Trump Supporter (Original Post) Swede Friday OP
Shocked! I tell you. Shocked! Liberal In Texas Friday #1
im not AllaN01Bear Friday #27
Kick BlueWaveNeverEnd Friday #2
Republicans own this church massacre Champp Friday #3
They own the majority of the violence that is happening around the country. OldBaldy1701E Friday #7
Yes. The numbers tell the story Champp Friday #24
I'm thinking MyOwnPeace Friday #40
You grok well. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Saturday #46
Bully bullets BattleRow Friday #44
It's Magacide gopiscrap Friday #32
So, which is less surprising? Paladin Friday #4
Or their response? Delmette2.0 Friday #31
picture Be Leave On Friday #41
And after they stampeded to get in front of TV cameras after Kirk's murder. tanyev Friday #5
They were praying for some transgender connection. sop Friday #17
Why would they? They approve! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Friday #6
Oh no way! Kingofalldems Friday #8
Was she trans too? durablend Friday #12
Not seen on a billboard. usonian Friday #9
I love that gopiscrap Friday #33
Steal my graphic! Share! usonian Friday #34
They are addicted to fear, hate and violence Clouds Passing Friday #10
Well, over the years they have learned that it gets results. OldBaldy1701E Saturday #47
Figured he was hardcore MAGA the way Law enforcement was acting when they immediately learned of his MAGANESS. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Friday #11
DTs response was telling Cosmocat Friday #13
Is that source credible? It would be nice to see the actual evidence instead of just allusions to it. xocetaceans Friday #14
Oh so they didn't find bullets with leftist writings this time? IronLionZion Friday #15
The FBI didn't have time to plant them. It takes a while to engrave a shelll casing Ray Bruns Friday #30
His younger brother, in a recent family photo, was sporting a t-shirt that bragged: wolfie001 Friday #16
"An act of targeted violence, though a motive has not been confirmed." lees1975 Friday #18
That seems likely Martin Eden Friday #21
OmissionLie multigraincracker Friday #19
It's not just the GOP mn9driver Friday #20
When a MAGA Trump supporter does it, he's a lone wolf disturbed individual Martin Eden Friday #22
Of course Rebl2 Friday #23
DOJ removes study on right wing violence surfered Friday #25
What, nothing about rhetoric being to blame? Ohioboy Friday #26
KICK orangecrush Friday #28
Honestly it would be good for society NoPasaran Friday #29
Brain Dead Hate Stuffed Psycho. Just Cha Friday #35
It was clear to me that the media knew this a while ago ToxMarz Friday #36
They're all deeply in denial Warpy Friday #37
... Initech Friday #38
It was "disappeared" out of the news like the antivax quack who shot up CDC buildings in Atlanta BumRushDaShow Friday #39
I wouldn't be surprised if this guy watched college football on TV. Sibelius Fan Friday #42
"There was a shooting? Must have been a patriot shooting at libtard Mormons. Flags at half staff for him." Wonder Why Friday #43
From Republican leadership - not even two tots and one pear for the people who lost their lives 3Hotdogs Friday #45

OldBaldy1701E

(9,265 posts)
7. They own the majority of the violence that is happening around the country.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:07 AM
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They will never admit to that.

But, it is on them. They know it deep down. They also know that there will be a reckoning over this.

Because if there isn't, then we have learned nothing.

MyOwnPeace

(17,387 posts)
40. I'm thinking
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:27 PM
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‘We’ve learned nothing……….’

Evidence: IQ-47 got re-elected, didn’t he?

Paladin

(31,736 posts)
4. So, which is less surprising?
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:51 AM
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1. The fact that the gunman was "Ultra MAGA," or

2. The GOP's silence about it?

Apologies for hitting you with such a tough one...

Be Leave On

(344 posts)
41. picture
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 06:30 PM
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His picture shown on the linked Daily Boulder article makes him look like a very stable genius.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,265 posts)
47. Well, over the years they have learned that it gets results.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:28 AM
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So, they keep on doing it, because it keeps on getting results.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,241 posts)
11. Figured he was hardcore MAGA the way Law enforcement was acting when they immediately learned of his MAGANESS.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:30 AM
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Not once did I hear broadcast media speak of the killer's political leanings in the aftermath of the killings, either.

Cosmocat

(15,302 posts)
13. DTs response was telling
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:41 AM
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"Another attack on christianity"

They HAVE to be the victim, but clearly it was backloaded - not saying by whom.

xocetaceans

(4,286 posts)
14. Is that source credible? It would be nice to see the actual evidence instead of just allusions to it.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:42 AM
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...

But as photos and social media posts surfaced showing Sanford in a camouflage Trump 2020 shirt that read “Make Liberals Cry Again,” and a Trump-Pence sign still visible on his front lawn just months ago, the political implications became harder to ignore.

...

https://dailyboulder.com/gop-silent-as-mormon-church-gunman-identified-as-ultra-maga-trump-supporter/





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IronLionZion

(50,058 posts)
15. Oh so they didn't find bullets with leftist writings this time?
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:44 AM
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That's the only evidence that matters in this administration. Liberals love to write stuff on bullets.

wolfie001

(6,260 posts)
16. His younger brother, in a recent family photo, was sporting a t-shirt that bragged:
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:47 AM
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"Proud to be a virgin" or something pathetic like that. It'd be laughable but that christian household produced a cold and calculating killer. Very representative of the hateful crowd that are part of the tRUMP regime. I suggest removing all "friends and family" from any future gatherings if they support these monsters.

lees1975

(6,788 posts)
18. "An act of targeted violence, though a motive has not been confirmed."
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:02 AM
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Oh, let me help with that.

A Mormon shot Charlie Kirk.

Settled.

mn9driver

(4,786 posts)
20. It's not just the GOP
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:17 AM
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This whole story disappeared from the headlines as soon as it became clear that the shooter was MAGA.

Martin Eden

(14,947 posts)
22. When a MAGA Trump supporter does it, he's a lone wolf disturbed individual
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:22 AM
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When someone on the right is targeted, the entire "Left" and the Democratic Party are to blame -- even before any facts about the shooter are known.

Rebl2

(17,069 posts)
23. Of course
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:24 AM
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not. They won’t ever say anything, unless it’s to say he’s mentally ill.

NoPasaran

(17,315 posts)
29. Honestly it would be good for society
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 11:01 AM
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Honestly it would be good for society to accept that no political tendency has a monopoly on deranged lunatics with access to firearms.

ToxMarz

(2,574 posts)
36. It was clear to me that the media knew this a while ago
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 02:57 PM
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by the lack of reporting anything about it even happening, while they were still reporting daily about the Kirk shooter (which Trump would approve of). They knew they couldn't say what they knew about the mormon church attacker without raising the ire of Trump and his base, so they pretended like it didn't happen rather than dance around the story.

Warpy

(114,002 posts)
37. They're all deeply in denial
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:09 PM
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except for the ones who thunder that the punk was an agent of gawd sent to punish (whomever for whatever, they're always real hazy on that part). MAGAts are so deeply convinced they're wearing the white hats (red caps to the contrary) that one of their own couldn't possibly have done this, there must be some mistake.

Um, no mistake, guys, we on the left have been steeped in the teachings of Gandhi, Mandela, and MLK, Jr. for so long it's in our DNA. Believers tend to follow hippie socialist Jesus who found a better way to live rather than Avenging Jehovah. Short term, most of these gun goons are going to be all yours.

MAGAts are having a lot of cognitive dissonance these days with Limbaugh still dead and King Wurst too demented to fill their empty heads with snappy slogans this term, they're all getting a little desperate.

Expect more of these guys to act out and expect a lot of them to act out against their own for lapses in orthodoxy.

BumRushDaShow

(161,376 posts)
39. It was "disappeared" out of the news like the antivax quack who shot up CDC buildings in Atlanta
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:17 PM
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Sibelius Fan

(24,748 posts)
42. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy watched college football on TV.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:29 PM
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Those damn librul colleges are so powerful that even watching their football teams on TV can easily radicalize a good Xian over to the radical left. After that, a mass shooting is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Wonder Why

(6,242 posts)
43. "There was a shooting? Must have been a patriot shooting at libtard Mormons. Flags at half staff for him."
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:12 PM
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:sarcasm"

3Hotdogs

(14,661 posts)
45. From Republican leadership - not even two tots and one pear for the people who lost their lives
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 11:04 PM
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on behalf of Charlie Kirk's 2nd Amendment rights.

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