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edbermac

(16,381 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:50 PM Friday

Whispers about Vance marriage grow louder as Second Lady ditches her wedding band

Usha Vance was spotted at an official engagement without her wedding ring, weeks after husband JD Vance publicly revealed the religious divide in their marriage.

The Second Lady was ringless during her visit to Camp Lejeune military base in Richlands, North Carolina on Wednesday with First Lady Melania Trump.

Photos show Usha, 39, getting off a plane with her left hand in full view – and the wedding band nowhere to be seen.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15314695/Second-Lady-Usha-Vance-spotted-without-wedding-ring-faith-rift.html

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Whispers about Vance marriage grow louder as Second Lady ditches her wedding band (Original Post) edbermac Friday OP
JD's going all-out white supremacist, calling that his religion struggle4progress Friday #1
Good for her. Being humiliated in front of the world is not what she deserves. Hope she runs him down on the way out Deuxcents Friday #2
I don't know what she deserves or doesn't BlueSpot Friday #19
No matter what it was..no one should be humiliated in such a public setting. Deuxcents Saturday #24
I believe she clerked for both Roberts and Kavanough fujiyamasan Saturday #28
Question, is the JD Vance she wed the same as the couch f*cker, greed monger Norbert Saturday #30
I think he has changed dramatically PatSeg Saturday #41
From what I've seen of his past statements, Haggard Celine Saturday #42
Yes and very anti Trump as well PatSeg Saturday #44
I hadn't thought about the difference between Haggard Celine Saturday #46
It hadn't dawned on me until recently PatSeg Saturday #57
I admire your ethical views PJMcK Saturday #55
I said this weeks ago on this forum BannonsLiver Friday #3
You forgot the part where Erikkka will give birth Submariner Friday #13
That's pretty good. BannonsLiver Saturday #25
I guess LR3 Saturday #53
Could be the reason for all his vacation trips recently. Xolodno Friday #4
Whoa... one doesn't "ditch" their wedding Cha Friday #5
There can be innocent reasons for doing that DavidDvorkin Friday #6
True, but we're just seen in the romantic embrace of not your spouse? EdmondDantes_ Friday #16
Maybe she lost it in the couch cushions kerouac2 Friday #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Friday #8
Dump him, girl Bayard Friday #9
+1 She could do a lot better leftstreet Friday #11
can she? Skittles Saturday #31
That explains the Bonespur/Bonesaw event FHRRK Friday #10
the couch fucker isn't getting the 2028 rethug nomination with an "illegal" at his side Takket Friday #12
a guy who changed his name 3 times as an adult will NOT ecstatic Friday #14
Religious divide? Warpy Friday #15
She can't even make him sleep on the couch, he'd be into it IronLionZion Friday #17
Tatu is getting divorced, LOL!!!!!! N/T gay texan Friday #18
He's an ambitious white nationalist, religious terrorist Akakoji Friday #20
You may be right. calimary Friday #21
"...be ye not unevenly yoked..." should do it Lars39 Saturday #34
Metal wedding bands KentuckyWoman Saturday #22
She is sending a message. She has had a complete style makeover. Irish_Dem Saturday #33
She has enough $$ she could get her rings re-sized in a day Arazi Saturday #37
Of course she could get the ring sized in a few hours. Irish_Dem Saturday #38
I haven't worn my wedding band for five years now Mossfern Saturday #45
I gradually stopped wearing mine during Covid senseandsensibility Saturday #48
"She's the mother of MY (emphasis mine) children, so I guess I love her." niyad Saturday #23
Did he really say THAT? 3catwoman3 Saturday #26
Yes. niyad Saturday #36
OMG is that a direct quote? senseandsensibility Saturday #49
Sadly, yes. niyad Saturday #52
You're more polite than I would be. Dulcinea Saturday #61
I know many East Asians who take an extended visit to India . . . to visit Bread and Circuses Saturday #27
She could just head to San Diego with her kids and hang out with her parents fujiyamasan Saturday #29
Exactly! Bread and Circuses Saturday #63
She was, in fact, working at a big law firm up to the day eyeliner guy niyad Saturday #60
I agree, she's All - In. But if she's having regrets, time to get out now, Bread and Circuses Saturday #64
Yes. niyad Sunday #66
She's also upped her fashion game significantly. Irish_Dem Saturday #32
Do you have any links to photos of her then? senseandsensibility Saturday #50
Look at the picture on the left in the OP. Irish_Dem Saturday #56
Oh I thought all three of the pictures were from this year senseandsensibility Saturday #58
Here is the timeline: Irish_Dem Saturday #59
I assume the new Epstein Island is visited Johonny Saturday #35
Lots of people don't wear wedding rings. It means nothing when they don't. n/t valleyrogue Saturday #39
Perhaps. But when you're in the public eye, you must know how it could be construed. nt BWdem4life Saturday #40
Especially after a particularly tight and intimate embrace by JD with Erika Kirk Arazi Saturday #43
Neither my husband or I wear them Retrograde Saturday #47
We don't wear them either unless Tree Lady Saturday #51
My father never wore one. Dulcinea Saturday #62
When she has always worn them? And her husband just groped another woman in public? Irish_Dem Sunday #67
Is Vance looking for a proper white wife as befits his republican high status? Norrrm Saturday #54
Always thought she was way too good for him--- he would be happier Jack Valentino Saturday #65

Deuxcents

(24,928 posts)
2. Good for her. Being humiliated in front of the world is not what she deserves. Hope she runs him down on the way out
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:08 PM
Friday

BlueSpot

(1,224 posts)
19. I don't know what she deserves or doesn't
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:41 PM
Friday

She hooked up with that asshole for some reason or another. Until or unless we know what that was, we can't make that judgment.

fujiyamasan

(1,013 posts)
28. I believe she clerked for both Roberts and Kavanough
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 01:33 AM
Saturday

She may not be very vocal about her politics, but she’s no dummy and her clerkships may give some clue.

Once her husband hitched the family’s fortunes to Trump, she should have seen what was coming. Fuentes made it clear after the inauguration complaining about her. I think that’s when Vance said something apologetic about not having a white wife.

My guess is they’ll split. He’ll get with Ms black leather widow, and then he’ll go on Fuentes podcast soon after apologizing about his entire set of life choices up until then.

I just have a hard time sympathizing with these brown MAGAts. I’m hoping Vivek also gets trashed in Ohio.

Norbert

(7,472 posts)
30. Question, is the JD Vance she wed the same as the couch f*cker, greed monger
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 04:07 AM
Saturday

People change. Vance may have only been weird years ago. The asshat Vance of today may have never given her the time of day today. I feel bad for the kids. They deserve better.

PatSeg

(51,562 posts)
41. I think he has changed dramatically
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 01:42 PM
Saturday

since she married him. He seems to have been quite a different person before Thiel recruited and supported him. Clearly, he sold his soul to the devil.

Haggard Celine

(17,590 posts)
42. From what I've seen of his past statements,
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:08 PM
Saturday

he used to be relatively liberal. He did sell his soul.

PatSeg

(51,562 posts)
44. Yes and very anti Trump as well
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:34 PM
Saturday

Guess there's no going back now.

It is interesting how few people from Trump's first administration are with him now. Maybe JD should have talked to them first before accepting the VP nomination.

Haggard Celine

(17,590 posts)
46. I hadn't thought about the difference between
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:45 PM
Saturday

his administrations. He's got all new friends. I saw a woman who worked for Trump in the first term interviewed on an Amazon video today. She had nothing good to say about Trump. When RWers are appalled at your actions, you know you're a real piece of shit.

PatSeg

(51,562 posts)
57. It hadn't dawned on me until recently
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 07:36 PM
Saturday

I suppose a lot of the first term people feel lucky to have gotten out without being indicted for something.

The main carryover seems to be Steven Miller, apparently not as aware as the others. Meanwhile, we rarely hear a peep from the others, mercifully not even Kellyanne Conway. Most of them just disappeared into the shadows, not wanting any media attention apparently.

PJMcK

(24,485 posts)
55. I admire your ethical views
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 06:56 PM
Saturday

Personally, I think they're all opportunistic grifters who can marinate in their hypocrisies. Screw 'em.

You are, I believe, a better person than I.

BannonsLiver

(20,134 posts)
3. I said this weeks ago on this forum
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:11 PM
Friday

They will separate in the new year and be divorced by the end of 2026. He will marry Erikkka Kirk sometime before the 2028 campaign gets underway. Feel free to bookmark.

Submariner

(13,209 posts)
13. You forgot the part where Erikkka will give birth
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:57 PM
Friday

to twin blond sons as the October Surprise.

there...fixed it for you.

DavidDvorkin

(20,445 posts)
6. There can be innocent reasons for doing that
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:54 PM
Friday

I cut my ring finger today and might have to keep my wedding ring off for a few days until the cut heals.

EdmondDantes_

(1,190 posts)
16. True, but we're just seen in the romantic embrace of not your spouse?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:09 PM
Friday

Have you recently thrown your spouse's religion under the bus? Did you recently fail to disavow nazis by calling grown ups kids because you like your nazi friends more than your spouse of a non-white race?

Sure it could be a coincidence, but it would be strange timing.

kerouac2

(1,378 posts)
7. Maybe she lost it in the couch cushions
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:26 PM
Friday

If so, pretty sure shady Vance can poke around and find it.

Response to edbermac (Original post)

FHRRK

(1,334 posts)
10. That explains the Bonespur/Bonesaw event
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:33 PM
Friday

She wasn’t around to stop him from leaving the house in the gawd awful Tux.

Takket

(23,373 posts)
12. the couch fucker isn't getting the 2028 rethug nomination with an "illegal" at his side
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:42 PM
Friday

but the blonde and lilly white widow of a right wing hero? that gets you nominated

ecstatic

(34,986 posts)
14. a guy who changed his name 3 times as an adult will NOT
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:58 PM
Friday

have any issues replacing his wife to advance his career. The powers that be have spoken. He will marry eriKaKirK and his Hindu wife and kids will be in the rearview.

Warpy

(114,257 posts)
15. Religious divide?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:04 PM
Friday

Let me guess, he's saying the OT guarantees him a harem starting with the blonde and she says not for the last several thousand years, Asshole.

Dunno, ending a marriage is always paingul and it's none of my business, but damn, doesn't he seem like the type!

IronLionZion

(50,442 posts)
17. She can't even make him sleep on the couch, he'd be into it
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:18 PM
Friday


Erikkka will comfort him during this time of need.

Akakoji

(456 posts)
20. He's an ambitious white nationalist, religious terrorist
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:52 PM
Friday

I'm positive his religous cult will find some way to justify dumping her as unworthy in the eyes of some concept he calls God.

KentuckyWoman

(7,358 posts)
22. Metal wedding bands
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:00 AM
Saturday

I had have my wedding ring sized up a little in my 50s. The local jeweler had to send it off and it took several weeks. I remember the raised eyebrows at the time to the point I got sick of explaining the ring was in for maintenance.

Menopausal swelling isn't the only reason a lady may not wear it. She doesn't owe an explanation to anyone but JD... and maybe not even then. Yes, her husband is a putz, but that's not her fault.

Irish_Dem

(78,158 posts)
33. She is sending a message. She has had a complete style makeover.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 05:06 AM
Saturday

And has hired a stylist.

They could get some sort of wedding rings for her to wear for this photo op if they wanted.

The ringless hand is a clear statement.

Arazi

(8,619 posts)
37. She has enough $$ she could get her rings re-sized in a day
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:29 AM
Saturday

She knows the optics and if she cared to wear that exact ring set she could find a jeweler to alter them the same day.

Or wear facsimiles - nobody’s going to scrutinize her rings to that degree.

She’s definitely sending a message going without imo

Irish_Dem

(78,158 posts)
38. Of course she could get the ring sized in a few hours.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:32 AM
Saturday

Or borrow something suitable.

And the complete makeover from dowdy and overweight to slim, fashionable, beautiful is the tell.
If she could do all of that she can do a ring if she wanted to.

She is sending a clear message.

Mossfern

(4,555 posts)
45. I haven't worn my wedding band for five years now
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:43 PM
Saturday

Nobody seems to have noticed.
Not even my husband.

To be honest, it was just a thin gold band ...

senseandsensibility

(24,088 posts)
48. I gradually stopped wearing mine during Covid
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:57 PM
Saturday

The constant handwashing was screwing up the diamond and to be honest, I don't find rings comfortable. Since we never went anywhere during Covid anyway it didn't matter. Then I got used to it and now I only wear it to "go out". I explained why to the hubby who understands and no one else seems to have noticed.

niyad

(128,789 posts)
23. "She's the mother of MY (emphasis mine) children, so I guess I love her."
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:01 AM
Saturday

I don't know what kind of arrangement they have, but a woman with an iota of self-respect would have been out the door with that remark.

senseandsensibility

(24,088 posts)
49. OMG is that a direct quote?
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 03:00 PM
Saturday

I'd only have four words for liddle Jaydee after that: Hit the Road Jack. OK, maybe a few more: And don't ya come back no more no more.

Bread and Circuses

(1,436 posts)
27. I know many East Asians who take an extended visit to India . . . to visit
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:49 AM
Saturday

To visit with relatives and expose the children to her heritage, culture and history,

I think Usha needs to do that now. She’s tied herself to the water-boy of a fascist, criminal dictator.
Put your law degree to use, girlfriend.

As Miss Taylor Swift says : Shake It Off.

fujiyamasan

(1,013 posts)
29. She could just head to San Diego with her kids and hang out with her parents
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 01:37 AM
Saturday

Better weather than DC this time of the year. I’m not sure how close she is to family in India. I guess the family took one trip a few months ago, including Vance.

Basically what Melania did most of Trump’s presidency, especially this term.

niyad

(128,789 posts)
60. She was, in fact, working at a big law firm up to the day eyeliner guy
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 08:55 PM
Saturday

was named as krasnov's choice for vp. She was even using her birth name. The day after the announcement, she was listed as a "former" at the firm, and using his name. I do not feel one bit sorry for her.

Irish_Dem

(78,158 posts)
32. She's also upped her fashion game significantly.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 05:01 AM
Saturday

No longer the dowdy little housewife.

Lost weight, had some facial work down, new hairstyle, make up, clothing.
Definitely has a stylist working for her.

Looks quite glamourous now.

Getting ready for her post divorce life?

senseandsensibility

(24,088 posts)
50. Do you have any links to photos of her then?
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 03:01 PM
Saturday

Not doubting you, but I don't remember seeing her looking any differently than she looks now. Of course, JD has changed his look dramatically.

Irish_Dem

(78,158 posts)
56. Look at the picture on the left in the OP.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 07:15 PM
Saturday

Then compare it to the picture on the right in the OP.

No comparison.

She looks like she has had a makeover.
Hair, make up, sun glasses, possibly botox, etc.
A stylist as well who chose the outfit she is wearing on the right.

I have a sharp fashion eye and read forums which just deal with the latest fashions,
makeovers, plastic surgery etc. in the celebrity world.

senseandsensibility

(24,088 posts)
58. Oh I thought all three of the pictures were from this year
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 08:14 PM
Saturday

Different days in November this year. Guess not.

Irish_Dem

(78,158 posts)
59. Here is the timeline:
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 08:25 PM
Saturday

-Oct 29 2025. Vance giving Erica Kirk a passionate kiss and embrace in public.

-Oct 31 2025. Vance doubles down insulting his wife and her religion.

-Nov 10 2025. Vance's wife still wearing her wedding ring and looking dowdy with little attention to her appearance.

-Nov 19 2025. Vance's wife ditches the wedding ring and looks like a million bucks.
Looks like a model and clearly has had work done and a fashion consultant has been hired.

Johonny

(25,114 posts)
35. I assume the new Epstein Island is visited
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 07:30 AM
Saturday

Often by Trump people. And yes, someone somewhere is supplying girls to wealthy men. Epstein will not have been the only people ever to do this. . . And we have discovered there's an implied huge demand from entitled rich men.

Arazi

(8,619 posts)
43. Especially after a particularly tight and intimate embrace by JD with Erika Kirk
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:25 PM
Saturday

Splashed alllllll over the media…

And after he publicly says he wants her to convert which is a huge diss, especially considering she has her own rich heritage.

Retrograde

(11,348 posts)
47. Neither my husband or I wear them
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:54 PM
Saturday

and it's been going on 52 years. (I actually had a cheap $5 one because my mother insisted, but I lost it shortly after the wedding and never replaced it). My father wore his at home, but always took it off when he went to work (safety reasons). It's up to the individual. For all I know, wedding rings may not be common in some cultures.

Tree Lady

(12,928 posts)
51. We don't wear them either unless
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 03:06 PM
Saturday

We go out and feel like it. My fingers were swollen so I got them sized bigger then lost weight and inflammation and now one is loose and I don't want to size again. My husband says it messes with using tools.

Dulcinea

(9,493 posts)
62. My father never wore one.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:16 PM
Saturday

He & my mother were married 54 years until he passed away in 2019. YMMV.

Irish_Dem

(78,158 posts)
67. When she has always worn them? And her husband just groped another woman in public?
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 08:02 AM
Sunday

And the same husband has been trashing her in public.

It is a message.

Norrrm

(3,519 posts)
54. Is Vance looking for a proper white wife as befits his republican high status?
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 04:31 PM
Saturday

Did Vance ever denounce Trump's statements about immigrants poisoning the blood of our country?

If he did, I missed it.

That would apply to his own children.

Jack Valentino

(4,085 posts)
65. Always thought she was way too good for him--- he would be happier
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:48 PM
Saturday

with a dirty couch--- with whom he would never be required to converse





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