Pentagon confirms Trump and Hegseth made the call on the boat strikes

[underpants]

BREAKING: Pentagon Press Secretary Kingsley Wilson just put all of the responsibility of the Caribbean strikes on President Trump and Secretary Pete Hegseth.

"“The Secretary (Hegseth) has been very clear in every statement that we have released about these strikes that they are Presidentially directed and the chain of command functions as it should… At the end of the day, the Secretary and the President are the ones directing these strikes and any follow-on strikes like those directed by Admiral Bradley, the Secretary 100% agrees with.”

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The Pentagon just blew up the White House’s entire cover story.

Press Secretary Kingsley Wilson openly confirmed that the Caribbean strikes,including the follow-on strike that hit survivors, were “presidentially directed” and fully backed by Pete Hegseth.

No more hiding behind “rogue commanders.”

No more blaming the Navy.

No more pretending Hegseth “didn’t know.”

“The Secretary and the President are the ones directing these strikes… the Secretary 100% agrees with.”

This puts Trump and Hegseth directly on the hook for the operation the Senate and House are now investigating as a potential war crime.

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[mwmisses4289]

1. Well. This could get interesting.

Not sure if it merits this

Have to wait and see.

[eShirl]

6. I'm joining you

[Blues Heron]

2. The buck stops with Trump - he is guilty of cold blooded murder.

[OMGWTF]

18. T💩p is also responsible for at least 500,000 dead Americans due to his Covid-19 BULLSHIT!

[markodochartaigh]

27. Yes but pinning responsibility to

Trump is like nailing ketchup to the wall.

[Jerry2144]

3. All people involved with that war crime

Need to face charges. From the sailor who pushed the button to launch the attack, through the Officer of the Deck on Watch on that ship, the CO, that admiral who the felon OSS trying to throw under the bus, and all the way up. Sec Nav, as well.

[Stardust Mirror]

45. Oh no, can't do that

Some people might be hesitant to commit war crimes after that!

[eShirl]

4. the guy who wanted to shoot civilians in the legs?

[KS Toronado]

23. yep

[markodochartaigh]

28. Miles Taylor was on Thom Hartmann today.

Mr Taylor was on the inside of the regime and it was a very interesting interview.

[MineralMan]

5. Oops! That's not going to sit well with Hegseth and Trumpkins.

Nope. They're not going to like that one little bit. Nosiree!

[underpants]

8. What's funny is it's the first day for the knew compliant Pentagon Press Core.

Matt Gaetz and Laura Loomer have press credentials.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20842813

[MineralMan]

9. Exactly.

And now, that's the official word from the DOD(W).

Straight from the Press Secretary. Hilarious. Watch what happens next. "Err...uhh...she misspoke or something...we'll get back to you...uh...real soon..."

[KS Toronado]

24. We'll get more "fake news" comments.

[underpants]

25. Well uh "direct" and "directing" can mean different things...

I can see Baghdad Barbie going there tomorrow

[orangecrush]

32. Trump was bragging he's going to do more strikes on land

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[purr-rat beauty]

7. Check F'ing Mate

So yeah, hmmm

How are they going to blend in?

[Nittersing]

10. Wonder who's gonna take the fall for this....

[dixiegrrrrl]

41. Karoline Leaveitt just gave General Bradley all the credit.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/morning-memo/trump-white-house-throws-military-under-the-bus-for-lawless-attack

[MarineCombatEngineer]

11. So they flat out admitted to a war crime?

The Congress now needs to haul everyone involved in these murders before them and finally get the truth out and then those involved need to face justice, except, of course, Pedonald thanks to the UnSupreme Court.

[lame54]

12. Bradley knew better - not off the hook

[Zorro]

14. Here's Bradley's Wikipedia bio

Impressive resumé. Sucks to be him now, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_M._Bradley

[louis-t]

63. I'm not sure Bradley was involved.

Rachel Maddow said last night that the incident in question happened in September but Bradley was not at his current position until October.

[lame54]

65. Get him in front of a microphone

[Midnight Writer]

13. Anyone else here that used to play "Hot Potato" as a kid?

In Indiana, it is known as "Hot Potatoe".

[Dave Bowman]

31. Lol!

[Permanut]

34. There's a blast out of the past!

[Ilsa]

58. Oh Yeah!

And Murphy Brown sends Dan another truck load of russets!

[sop]

15. Kingsley's Pentagon career is over.

[CanonRay]

16. He'll get fired before the day is over.

[Tanuki]

20. She

is the daughter of former Trump advisor/ campaign surrogate Steve Cortes. Agree that she will be walking the plank imminently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsley_Wilson

[rambler_american]

17. So now

Pete and the so-called president are injured and clinging to the damaged ship of state.. Will someone order a fatal second strike?

[KS Toronado]

29. I'll volunteer for free

[BOSSHOG]

19. Drastic way to distract from Epstein

[Another Jackalope]

53. Yes, a "drastic distraction" indeed! n/t

[Cha]

21. Whoa, Pentagon! Calling out the

Psychopathic Neo Nazi LIARS!

Bravo!

[paleotn]

22. Hegseth and Trump have lost control. DoD is acting independently.

I smell...."enough of this shit!"

[drray23]

51. They are pushing back because clearly Hegseth and Trump were trying to scapegoat Bailey

Now of course that Admiral is also guilty but for a few hours, Hegseth and the rest of the clique tried to shift all the blame to him. The pentagon probably got pissed and decided to push back.

[Sogo]

26. LOL!! She looked so smug with her answer....

I don't think she'll be so smug when she loses her job.

[Ilikepurple]

40. Was she smug because she was defying her handlers or doing their bidding?

I do hope it’s a sign that all of the Pentagon won’t fall in line publicly with whatever the administration does and says. But, I although I may have become too cynical, I’m leaning towards this statement being authorized by Hegseth or the Trump administration. I’ve seen way too many “gotcha” moments that have gotme rather than gotTrump or anybody in this administration.

[Traildogbob]

30. Miller has to be at the top

Of any murder indictments.

[Biophilic]

33. As I recall trump can't be prosecuted for anything he does as the president per the Supreme Court.

So does that mean Hegseth takes the fall?

[highplainsdem]

39. Can he pardon Hegseth?

[Biophilic]

43. I don't see why not. He seems to be able to pardon everyone else.

[thought crime]

50. Yep that's the plan

[Ilsa]

59. I heard that he can pardon Pete. nt

[uponit7771]

56. He can, just 2 times as hard

[Permanut]

35. So they lied?

Who knew?

[nakocal]

36. Pentagon confirms that Trump and Hegseth are issuing illegal orders

War crimes are being ordered.

[sheshe2]

37. Well there it is.

**BOOM**

[2MuchNoise]

44. BOOM is right!

Their dirty lie is blowin' up faster than a fishing boat in the Caribbean.

[sheshe2]

48. Watching more about it on Ari's show.

[AverageOldGuy]

38. Want to see what REAL soldiers . . . not drunk woman-chasers . . . do when confronted with war crimes?

Go to Wikipedia and read about HUGH THOMPSON, GLENN ANDREOTTA, AND LAWRENCE COLBURN -- they are in the Wikipedia article about Thompson.

That's what real soldiers are made of.

[BidenRocks]

42. Hegsbreath renaming defense to WAR shows intent!

We have not declared war on anyone and chump saying it doesn't make it so.

I demand Congress get involved so chump's maga supporters can go on record as supporting war crimes.

We are going to need a bigger gallows!

The only war we are in is the war of unintended consequences.

[bluestarone]

46. So, now will House and Senate rethugs STILL do NOTHING about this?

HELL YES they will do nothing!!

[malaise]

47. Duh,

Rec

[NameAlreadyTaken]

49. LOCK THEM UP

[kacekwl]

52. trump said I don't know

anything about that. Would that be a lie then ? Piggy should ask him that.

[Jack Valentino]

54. *Some people* find it unfortunate that there was no 'second strike' in

Butler, PA

[uponit7771]

55. This admin is hot ass garbage

[B.See]

57. What a surprise.

[ecstatic]

60. Pete and all the military officers involved must be court-martialed

These disgusting, illegal strikes on fishing boats would not have happened if Naval officers had just said no. Apparently, at least one admiral did and was forced to resign. Kudos to him. But admiral Bradley belongs in jail along with Pete.

tRump's thugs need to understand that even if dump is invincible, they're not. They will get locked up when this shit show is over.

[surfered]

61. The finger pointing begins. But we know Trump and Hegseth are liars.

[Martin68]

62. Ooh, get ready for fireworks! With emphasis on "fire."

[flashman13]

64. None of this alters the fact that it was an illegal order. The commander in the field was obligated to say no.

They could have court marshaled that commander, but I doubt that they would. Why? Because the court would have to establish what order was refused. The commander's defense would have shown that the order was illegal under a number of different laws and regulations and why the commander was obligated not to carry out the order. Next question, who issued the illegal order ? The finger would have pointed straight up the chain of command to Hogsbreath and Trump. It's going to arrive at their doorstep now anyway.

It is a little known fact, but there really were a significant number of German soldiers that refused to commit murder or carry out other illegal orders. None of them were ever court marshaled. Why? Because the court would have had to establish what order was illegal. Theoretically the German army was governed by the Geneva Conventions which prohibits murder. No one in the chain of command would have wanted to be fingered for issuing a criminal order. Deniability was a big thing for them. As the war ground on and loss looked more inevitable, commanders didn't want to risk prosecution. Even the upper echelons of the SS tried to cover up their crimes.

I do believe and hope that this may have embolden field commanders to refuse clearly illegal orders.

These are my thoughts. Feel free to disagree.