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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI feel like the ONLY answer is Local Police need to clash with ICE.
If ICE gets away with this, we will lose our democracy with out a doubt.
pandr32
(13,797 posts)Our Constitution explains how all 'militia' is to be regulated and funded and employed.
bluestarone
(21,212 posts)To be CONFRONTED!! Way past time. whether or not TSF will declare martial law or not. We WILL lose our country if ICE is allowed to continue MASKED and kill citizens.
PatSeg
(52,216 posts)Local police need to be protecting their communities and their citizens. Time to arrest some goons.
Moostache
(10,983 posts)Constant harassing and following and highlighting them all. Doxxing them all and making damn sure that they can NEVER live peaceful lives by taking off their masks and cos-play uniforms to try to be normal people. Having a known association with ICE should become a felony in the future. Having cashed checks and followed orders to do these things MUST have consequences - life long and destroying consequences.
They are doing the bidding of Stephen Miller, the worst human being since Mengele or Goebbels. We need to be prepared to hand over Miller and Noem and Trump and anyone else involved in this atrocity of a "strategy" and have them face international justice for crimes against humanity. We need to cede the control of justice to external allies (at least while we still have a few of them).
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,371 posts)flvegan
(65,792 posts)electric_blue68
(25,960 posts)bluestarone
(21,212 posts)We just cannot sit back and allow ICE THUGS to run our country. Democracy deserves our FIGHT. I feel it's now DO or DIE!!
RockRaven
(18,739 posts)Because that will never happen to any meaningful degree. Any expectation of that happening involves a very off the mark assessment of police in the US.
FadedMullet
(711 posts)stopdiggin
(15,037 posts)In fact - you would have a real hard time finding ANY uniforms that were willing to obey ... Even given that they might be (personally) totally disgusted at the ICE presence/occupation. A fool's errand (and one would actually have to question fitness for duty ... )
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OC375
(454 posts)And in the other corner, 2000+ Feds.
I think it would likely be a slaughter if someone decided to get the party started.
EdmondDantes_
(1,389 posts)It's not like we don't have examples of Minnesota police killing people. Philando Castile and George Floyd for example.
LPBBEAR
(639 posts)Since it's unlikely the Cops or the National Guard in each state will do their jobs the people will have to do it instead. I lived through the 60's anti-war protests. What was obvious then as now was that the people we elected weren't going to get us out of Vietnam and end the illegal drafting of young men to be cannon fodder in an undeclared war. The Cops certainly weren't going to help anyone but the corrupt politicians and the National Guard were too busy murdering innocent victims in places like Kent State. The people had to force change through confrontational protests and actions.
For instance if there is a gathering of10 ICE agents there should be at least 10 times that number, at least 100 citizens there.
100 ICE agents = 1000 citizens.
2000 ICE agents = 20,000 citizens.
If not more. Overwhelming force of numbers is needed.
If that causes ICE to become confrontational against citizens.......well someone needs a beating.
If local and state Cops won't do their jobs and arrest these criminals then the people are going to have to respond.
Sadly as it was in the 60's, that's where we are with this criminal administration and its goons.
bluestarone
(21,212 posts)BUT todays democracy is all but gone. These ICE GOONS need to be stopped, and if this murder goes unchecked i could not live with myself.