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DrMJG10

(53 posts)
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 11:01 PM Wednesday

Is the MN shooting the "Kent State" shooting of this era?

The shooting at Kent State was at first "justified" by the authorities in place at that time. However, eye witnesses of the shooting made it clear that it was not only unjustified, but it was also cold blooded "punishment" for those killed. That one incident turned much of America into supporting the anti-war factions.

I suspect the shooting in Minneapolis on Wednesday will harden the anti-ICE stance many of us have and allow many to join our ranks!

We need to take up the name of MS Good as often and as loudly as possible. We honor her by telling the truth about the actions surrounding her death. We cannot allow this to fade away as many news stories do.

At a time much earlier in my life the question "At long last have you no shame?" was asked. We need to ask the Cos playing director of DHS the often.

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Is the MN shooting the "Kent State" shooting of this era? (Original Post) DrMJG10 Wednesday OP
Was it Kent State that changed everything? RandySF Wednesday #1
they added mothers to todays lottery. ret5hd Wednesday #2
Mothers have always been part of the ICE lottery. People are just more up in arms over this one... Lancero Wednesday #4
well, i agree with you partly... ret5hd Thursday #5
It's also that it was recorded and clearly she was no threat JI7 Thursday #7
Too soon to know (n/t) PJMcK Wednesday #3
I hope not... regnaD kciN Thursday #6
Keith Olbermann agrees..... BigmanPigman Thursday #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Volaris Thursday #9
But she wasn't protesting was she? Buckeyeblue Thursday #10
Saw the DEVO documentary last year -- they started at Kent State GreatGazoo Thursday #11

RandySF

(81,205 posts)
1. Was it Kent State that changed everything?
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 11:17 PM
Wednesday

Or was it adding college students to the lottery?

Lancero

(3,260 posts)
4. Mothers have always been part of the ICE lottery. People are just more up in arms over this one...
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 11:55 PM
Wednesday

Because todays victim of ICE terrorism was a white woman.

ret5hd

(22,202 posts)
5. well, i agree with you partly...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:01 AM
Thursday

but shooting a mother in the face three times on camera is quite the escalation.

JI7

(93,232 posts)
7. It's also that it was recorded and clearly she was no threat
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:14 AM
Thursday

the outrage started before she was identified.

regnaD kciN

(27,477 posts)
6. I hope not...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 12:08 AM
Thursday

…because, frankly, the outcome of Kent State was a turn of public opinion away from student protesters and toward “law & order” policies. Although people from this vantage point want to romanticize “the Sixties,” Kent State was really the death knell of the anti-war movement and of student activism as a whole. When the grand jury returned its verdict, it let the National Guard off scot-free, while indicting a number of the protest leaders, including some of the wounded. And, of course, two years later, Nixon won 49 of 50 states.

Response to DrMJG10 (Original post)

Buckeyeblue

(6,202 posts)
10. But she wasn't protesting was she?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 08:02 AM
Thursday

It seems more like she was trying to drive through and got caught up in something. Got confused and then got shot.

GreatGazoo

(4,484 posts)
11. Saw the DEVO documentary last year -- they started at Kent State
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 09:34 AM
Thursday

and were good friends with two of the women who were shot.

Paraphrasing, their take away was "street protest is over"

Four students were killed by the Guard members, and Casale was a friend of two of them: freshmen Allison Krause and Jeffrey Miller. Casale, who was a senior, had gotten to know them through his campus job as a counselor for incoming students.
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“Until that point, I was kind of a mainstream liberal student, a Mr. Nice Guy,” Casale continued. “I thought that America was basically great except for some bad apples, but it could be fixed. I probably believed the whitewashed history of America being the land of the free, with equal rights and opportunity for everyone. That was eroding as I learned more. But May 4 was the dividing line.”


https://clubdevo.com/kent-state-shootings-led-to-founding-of-devo-says-bands-co-founder/

They used stickers for a while and then became the band we all know. But my point here is that, for them, Kent State was the end of campus protest. They moved to more subversive tactics, music and video.

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