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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEvery time someone says, Trump can't do it because it's illegal?
"I throw up my hands."
Are we in the same Universe?
gab13by13
(31,263 posts)that say what he is doing is very unpopular, I scream.
Some brave state law enforcement DA or AG has to give the OK to arrest these goons when they commit crimes. I have seen people in Minnesota and Pa. talk tough, just do it. Minnesota needs to investigate the murder.
RoeVWade
(844 posts)nt*
bigmonk
(111 posts)And why do people call him Trump, repeating his brand and promoting him, when they should be calling him Donald?
mwmisses4289
(3,266 posts)Donald or have Don as a nickname. Not to many of us personally know (or want to know!) someone named trump.
Katinfl
(644 posts)mwmisses4289
(3,266 posts)Katinfl
(644 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,910 posts)In fact when you try to talk to them about reality they get very angry.
I have noticed this over and over here.
I think being an optimist can be a good trait in general.
But when you are in an emergency situation it can be a big liability.
RoeVWade
(844 posts)reality. You can't give up or give in. You can't normalize it. You can't get used to it. You have to oppose it.
Irish_Dem
(79,910 posts)You don't seem to think that Trump will follow rule of law or that we even still have a rule of law in the US.
But have hope justice will prevail.
RoeVWade
(844 posts)For people that need a break from negativity, take one for your own mental health if you need it. No reason to crack. Won't do anyone any good.
Irish_Dem
(79,910 posts)Leaders need to face reality no matter how hard it is or they cannot fight the enemy successfully.
But yes it is hard on the troops who need a softer version perhaps and to take breaks.
markie
(23,868 posts)by now... everyone understood most of what he does is illegal I haven't heard anyone say "Trump can't do it because it's illegal"
RoeVWade
(844 posts)in my Greenland post, a poster was said, that taking Greenland was "too" illegal. I'm just not sure I know what is "too" illegal for Trump.
niyad
(129,643 posts)who actually said the "can't do it" absurdity, and then doubled down repeatedly when the statement was challenged.
Chasstev365
(7,143 posts)Does anyone think for a second that this criminal cabal that mascarades a presidential administration cares about a judge's ruling?
To them its an annoyance and not a paramount having a functional democracy. They also know Congressional Republicans and the 6 partisan hacks on the Supreme Court will never stop them.
EdmondDantes_
(1,393 posts)With a couple of exceptions like the deportation flights that were in the air and ordered to return, they have whined but obeyed the courts. Do you have a bunch of specific examples where they haven't?
Chasstev365
(7,143 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(22,075 posts)From your link:
Frustrating court oversight is legalese for playing procedural games as a form of delaying compliance with a court order, which Trump is an expert at as we have seen. That is distinct from openly defying a court order, which has only happened a handful of times.
Note that neither the article at your link, and the WaPo report it references, distinguishes between or defines what the difference is between frustrating judicial oversight and open defiance, nor do they give any specific examples of the former.
Despite this administrations acting with lawless impunity, we must remember this one absolute truth:
Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless
I think the more interesting, and important, question is: if this administration is truly a wholly unrestrained dictatorship, why do they comply at all?
At the very least Somebody is afraid of going to jail, or more likely, getting disbarred, and so is probably aggressively advocating for compliance with orders that cant be gamed in court.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,075 posts)Of course they always appeal and seek a stay pending that appeal, but if no stay is issued, with just a few exceptions, they have obeyed the court.
Orrex
(66,691 posts)And here we are, with Trump doing everything he wants, with absolute immunity.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,075 posts)But once caught and ordered by the courts to stop or reverse their actions, for whatever reason, most of the time, they comply (of course while appealing and seeking a stay of the ruling, but otherwise they have complied)