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Miles Archer

(22,185 posts)
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 08:58 AM 19 hrs ago

Daily Mail U.K.: Putin has basically owned Donald Trump for years, even before Trump ran for president in 2016.

https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/trump-russia-2675069424/

The British newspaper Daily Mail is out with a deeply researched investigative report, the result of a long collaboration between columnists Glen Owen and Dan Hodges, along with Mark Hookham (Assistant Editor Investigations), and Daisy Graham-Brown (Investigative Reporter).

It’s shocking in its detail and its implication that Vladimir Putin has basically owned Donald Trump for years, even before Trump ran for president in 2016.

They note of last week’s partial (about 50 percent) Epstein document release:

Essentially, they’re arguing that Epstein was running an operation on behalf of the KGB/Putin that lured wealthy and powerful men to Epstein’s New York and Palm Beach mansions and his island where they were surreptitiously filmed having sex with underage girls.
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Daily Mail U.K.: Putin has basically owned Donald Trump for years, even before Trump ran for president in 2016. (Original Post) Miles Archer 19 hrs ago OP
It makes too much sense to not be true. Someone would have to work hard ms liberty 19 hrs ago #1
And did Putin provide girls to Melania she could then pass onto Maxwell for Epstein's use in child sex Botany 19 hrs ago #3
I'd say Trump is the most easily baited / triggered fool on the planet Miles Archer 19 hrs ago #5
Israel is more heavily implicated in the files than Putin, but I agree. BComplex 16 hrs ago #15
The Steele Dossier was correct. Trump was owned by Putin and others and that the KGB when it was Botany 19 hrs ago #2
Agreed. FalloutShelter 16 hrs ago #12
Steele was a solid intelligence worker with decades long experience in the field and a highly trusted ally. Botany 16 hrs ago #14
The Trump/Epstein/Putin Kompromat Imbroglio has been a lively topic of discussion on DU for years. sop 19 hrs ago #4
Let's see how fast he sues the Daily Mail MacKasey 19 hrs ago #6
Agree. Except Epstein was working for the Russian mob Strelnikov_ 19 hrs ago #7
Regardless of my pure hatred of Trump and the RW in general, the Daily Heil is a hard RW fake news shitrag Celerity 18 hrs ago #8
We know. Sigh. Conspiracy theories are slowly enjoying mission creep into littlemissmartypants 16 hrs ago #13
And intertwined in it all was Money Laundering Captain Zero 18 hrs ago #9
Putin did Trump a favor as almost his first act in power Prairie Gates 18 hrs ago #10
Duh! Anyone who has been paying attention knows this. OMGWTF 16 hrs ago #11
Back in 2015 there was clear evidence reported that krasnov has been niyad 16 hrs ago #16

ms liberty

(11,055 posts)
1. It makes too much sense to not be true. Someone would have to work hard
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:07 AM
19 hrs ago

To convince me otherwise, since this actually only confirms my suspicions.
The only thing left now is to discover whether or not Melania is his handler or his keeper.

Botany

(76,651 posts)
3. And did Putin provide girls to Melania she could then pass onto Maxwell for Epstein's use in child sex
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:14 AM
19 hrs ago

trafficking, blackmail, and kompromat?

Miles Archer

(22,185 posts)
5. I'd say Trump is the most easily baited / triggered fool on the planet
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:18 AM
19 hrs ago

I don't know about the unholy Machiavellian pact between Putin and Epstein, but Putin LIVES FOR total humiliation of the West, and the key "power figures" who are slavishly followed by the media. Adding a moron like Trump to his stable would be a major "win" for him. And I'm sure Epstein was compensated for his "orchestration of events," if this is all true.

BComplex

(9,801 posts)
15. Israel is more heavily implicated in the files than Putin, but I agree.
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 11:51 AM
16 hrs ago

There is definitely a cess pool of oligarchs and rulers on this planet.

Botany

(76,651 posts)
2. The Steele Dossier was correct. Trump was owned by Putin and others and that the KGB when it was
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:10 AM
19 hrs ago

still the Soviet Union started making Trump a Russian asset in 1987 with his code name of Krasnov
who was a famous traitor to the Soviet Union in WW II during which he worked for the Nazis.

FalloutShelter

(14,263 posts)
12. Agreed.
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 11:40 AM
16 hrs ago

I'v been bringing the Steele dossier up for a couple of days now. It seems to have gone into the collective memory hole.
Makes lots more sense of the secret server that was in Trump Tower.

Botany

(76,651 posts)
14. Steele was a solid intelligence worker with decades long experience in the field and a highly trusted ally.
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 11:49 AM
16 hrs ago

The pee-pee tapes were just a small part of the Steele Dossier and the important part of it
was just how compromised Trump was via foreign countries funds. Russia, China, Saudi Arabia,
Middle Eastern Oil Oligarchs, and Russian mobsters. All of this was known by 2015 but our liberal
media needed to cover a Russian produced lie about HRC’s emails.

sop

(17,872 posts)
4. The Trump/Epstein/Putin Kompromat Imbroglio has been a lively topic of discussion on DU for years.
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:15 AM
19 hrs ago

Strelnikov_

(8,131 posts)
7. Agree. Except Epstein was working for the Russian mob
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:22 AM
19 hrs ago

And the Russian mob provided Putin with Kompromat as payola once he had consolidated power.

Melania, you ask? She was a Russian mob asset, put in position to keep an eye on ‘Dumb Don’ as they call him, who was laundering their money. At some point ‘Dumb Don’ found out, explains why he both despises her and fears her.

Trump/Epstein predates Putin.

Celerity

(53,971 posts)
8. Regardless of my pure hatred of Trump and the RW in general, the Daily Heil is a hard RW fake news shitrag
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:25 AM
18 hrs ago
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/



They have a long, (well over 125 years) history of supporting open racism, imperialism, antisemitism, and fascism, including full-throated support of Hitler and Mussolini:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail

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Lord Rothermere was a friend of Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, and directed the Mail's editorial stance towards them in the early 1930s. Lord Rothermere took an extreme anti-Communist line, which led him to own an estate in Hungary to which he might escape to in case Britain was conquered by the Soviet Union. Shortly after the Nazis scored their breakthrough in the Reichstag elections on 14 September 1930, winning 107 seats, Rothermere went to Munich to interview Hitler. In an article published in Daily Mail on 24 September 1930, Rothermere wrote: "These young Germans have discovered, as I am glad to note that the young men and women of England are discovering, that is no good trusting the old politicians. Accordingly, they have formed, as I should like to see our British youth form, a parliamentary party of their own...We can do nothing to check this movement [the Nazis], and I believe it would be a blunder for the British people to take up an attitude of hostility towards it." Starting in December 1931, Rothermere opened up talks with Oswald Mosley under which terms the Daily Mail would support his party. The talks were drawn out largely because Mosley understood that Rothermere was a megalomaniac who wanted to use the New Party for his own purposes as he sought to impose terms and conditions in exchange for the support of the Daily Mail. Mosley, who was equally egoistical, wanted Rothermere's support, but only on his own terms.

Rothermere's 1933 leader "Youth Triumphant" praised the new Nazi regime's accomplishments, and was subsequently used as propaganda by them. In it, Rothermere predicted that "The minor misdeeds of individual Nazis would be submerged by the immense benefits the new regime is already bestowing upon Germany". Journalist John Simpson, in a book on journalism, suggested that Rothermere was referring to the violence against Jews and Communists rather than the detention of political prisoners. Alongside his support for Nazi Germany as the "bulwark against Bolshevism", Rothermere used The Daily Mail as a forum to champion his pet cause, namely a stronger Royal Air Force (RAF). Rothermere had decided that aerial war was the technology of the future, and throughout the 1930s The Daily Mail was described as "obsessional" in pressing for more spending on the RAF.

Rothermere and the Mail were also editorially sympathetic to Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists. Rothermere wrote an article titled "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" published in the Daily Mail on 15 January 1934, praising Mosley for his "sound, commonsense, Conservative doctrine", and stating that: "Young men may join the British Union of Fascists by writing to the Headquarters, King's Road, Chelsea, London, S.W." The Spectator condemned Rothermere's article commenting that, "the Blackshirts, like the Daily Mail, appeal to people unaccustomed to thinking. The average Daily Mail reader is a potential Blackshirt ready made. When Lord Rothermere tells his clientele to go and join the Fascists some of them pretty certainly will." In April 1934, the Daily Mail ran a competition entitled "Why I Like The Blackshirts" under which it awarded one pound every week for the best letter from its readers explaining why they liked the BUF. The paper's support ended after violence at a BUF rally in Kensington Olympia in June 1934. Mosley and many others thought Rothermere had responded to pressure from Jewish businessmen who it was believed had threatened to stop advertising in the paper if it continued to back an antisemitic party. The paper editorially continued to oppose the arrival of Jewish refugees escaping Germany, describing their arrival as "a problem to which the Daily Mail has repeatedly pointed."

In December 1934, Rothermere visited Berlin as the guest of Joachim von Ribbentrop. During his visit, Rothermere was publicly thanked in a speech by Josef Goebbels for the Daily Mail's pro-German coverage of the Saarland referendum, under which the people of the Saarland had the choices of voting to remain under the rule of the League of Nations, join France, or rejoin Germany. In March 1935, impressed by the arguments put forward by Ribbentrop for the return of the former German colonies in Africa, Rothermere published a leader entitled "Germany Must Have Elbow Room". In his leader, Rothermere argued that the Treaty of Versailles was too harsh towards the Reich and claimed that the German economy was being crippled by the loss of the German colonial empire in Africa as he argued that without African colonies to exploit that the German economic recovery from the Great Depression was fragile and shallow.

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littlemissmartypants

(32,651 posts)
13. We know. Sigh. Conspiracy theories are slowly enjoying mission creep into
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 11:45 AM
16 hrs ago

Our discussions here. Did you push the "code red" button on the options bar close to trash? If not, I recommend it.

Love you.

❤️

Captain Zero

(8,800 posts)
9. And intertwined in it all was Money Laundering
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:26 AM
18 hrs ago

Another reason for taking ownership of economic elites for Putin was to use them all, including Trump, for Money Laundering Crimes.

Prairie Gates

(7,485 posts)
10. Putin did Trump a favor as almost his first act in power
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:29 AM
18 hrs ago

November 2000.

Trump has been owned and operated by him ever since.

niyad

(130,357 posts)
16. Back in 2015 there was clear evidence reported that krasnov has been
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 11:52 AM
16 hrs ago

ruzzia's asset since the early-to-mid 80's. His own spawn BRAGGED, before he ran, about "getting all the money (they) need" from ruzzia.

And every action krasnov takes, especially internationally, is straight putler.

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