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maxrandb

(17,281 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:22 AM Yesterday

Dear Bozos, Fuckerberg, the South African Nazi and the rest of you authoritarian dipshit supporting billionaires

The German oligarchs in 1930 learned that fascism is "good" for business...until it isn't!

If you think your "gubmint" contracts and insane wealth accumulation is at "risk" under Donnie Dipshits misadministration, you ain't seen nothing yet.

For my DU brothers and sisters: "If you haven't dumped your Amazon, Facebook and X-crement entanglements yet, what are you waiting for?"

Nothing will change! The racism, fascism, misogyny, hatred and white supremacy...NONE OF IT...will change, unless and until we make racism, fascism, misogyny, hatred and white supremacy UNPROFITABLE to the corporations, businesses and individuals that fund and enable it.

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Dear Bozos, Fuckerberg, the South African Nazi and the rest of you authoritarian dipshit supporting billionaires (Original Post) maxrandb Yesterday OP
Dumped fakebook in 2017 UpInArms Yesterday #1
You dumped WordPerfect in 2018? SpankMe Yesterday #12
No no no UpInArms Yesterday #14
And a good alternative for facebook is.....? mwmisses4289 Yesterday #2
My telephone works pretty well if I'm not talking to someone in person. hunter Yesterday #7
I am in same place Tree Lady Yesterday #9
I've been off FB for a couple years, my adult kids are not. Joinfortmill Yesterday #11
I am still on Facebook lonely bird Yesterday #13
AWESOME vapor2 Yesterday #23
Dumped Amazon last year mdbl Yesterday #3
If people knew..... SergeStorms Yesterday #35
Perhaps these companies will survive with or without our suppport? GusBob Yesterday #4
that's a great way to look at things! ret5hd Yesterday #25
If their advertisers insist on changes, that's usually the only reason it happens FakeNoose Yesterday #33
The real danger of AI is propaganda Johnny2X2X Yesterday #5
Hear, hear! ZDU Yesterday #6
It sounds like Musk might be in trouble criminally in France. mysteryowl Yesterday #8
Amen Joinfortmill Yesterday #10
that is what i do... ret5hd Yesterday #26
Alternative to Amazon? Bondor Yesterday #15
Therein lies the problem maxrandb Yesterday #17
Duck duck go RainCaster Yesterday #18
I use Ebay but only buy from blue state sellers kimbutgar Yesterday #28
Amazon doesn't make a ton of money from the retail, so it's kind of the least-bad option sir pball Yesterday #31
Walmart? Pompoy 22 hrs ago #37
Costco is a great alternative... mudstump 21 hrs ago #39
I don't like it, but I use Amazon when I need to not a texan Yesterday #16
Costco mudstump 21 hrs ago #40
It never stopped being good for business Cirsium Yesterday #19
For all those whining about giving up your convenience: Coventina Yesterday #20
Amazing how I've gotten through 77 years of my life without buying on Amazon... llmart 18 hrs ago #42
"If you haven't dumped your Amazon..." Wednesdays Yesterday #21
In all seriousness, what the fuck does one even *DO* with a trillion dollars? Initech Yesterday #22
enslave you. great past time if you can afford it. ret5hd Yesterday #27
I'm More Worried That The Next Financial Crisis modrepub Yesterday #24
Tesla, Amazon, and Paramount need to be broken up. Initech Yesterday #30
What's a Facebook? Dave Bowman Yesterday #29
thank you Skittles 10 hrs ago #43
Never had Facebook; never had Twitter/X. As for Amazon... NNadir Yesterday #32
rinse and repeat ransomeli Yesterday #34
German Moderates Did Not Make Common Cause with Leftists . . . cer7711 23 hrs ago #36
Yes, I've done that Trailrider1951 21 hrs ago #38
K&R red dog 1 21 hrs ago #41

mwmisses4289

(3,538 posts)
2. And a good alternative for facebook is.....?
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:00 AM
Yesterday

While good alternatives for twitter/x exist (Mastodon, Bluesky) and amazon (go directly to website of small or local retailer), I have yet to see a good alternative for Facebook.
MySpace? That appears to be mostly musicians now, and they appear to get very irate if anyone who is not a musician signs on. There are several invite only sites that are Facebook alternatives, but they are just that, invite only, and are geared toward specific groups. So, someone with more website building knowledge than I have willing to create an alternative to facebook?

hunter

(40,465 posts)
7. My telephone works pretty well if I'm not talking to someone in person.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:18 AM
Yesterday

DU is my only "social media" and even this place gets to be too noisy for me sometimes.

Tree Lady

(13,103 posts)
9. I am in same place
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:22 AM
Yesterday

I quit twitter years ago and cancelled Amazon last year but I have private fb groups and old friends on fb. Close family meets on messenger video weekly.

Joinfortmill

(20,490 posts)
11. I've been off FB for a couple years, my adult kids are not.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:00 AM
Yesterday

FB doesn't delete all your account info apparently, for I can still click on the site and view stuff. I haven't really missed it, and I had over 1k followers, as myself, at one point.
DU is my 'go to' site and substack is a close second. I'm also on Bluesky a bit.

In the end, we all do our part in the best way we can. Speaking truth to power on FB is another way. Just be you.

lonely bird

(2,820 posts)
13. I am still on Facebook
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:21 AM
Yesterday

I only go there for things like high school get togethers and a couple other groups. I probably go onto it once a month and rarely post anything.

vapor2

(4,100 posts)
23. AWESOME
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:21 PM
Yesterday

I left FB and feel "safe" on Du and BS. Just sick of the evil, wicked goons lying and grifting and using our tax $$$$$

mdbl

(8,273 posts)
3. Dumped Amazon last year
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:07 AM
Yesterday

Never use Fakebook or any of that other crap social media. I read Twatter once in a while before Eloon Skum bought it.

SergeStorms

(20,200 posts)
35. If people knew.....
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:41 PM
Yesterday

how many more internet "stores" sell the same goods cheaper than on Amazon, maybe they'd change their minds.
They just don't shop comparatively and assume everything is cheaper on Amazon. It certainly isn't and their "free shipping" is costing them a bundle.

And Bezos gets to buy the government and destroy the free press in the process.

GusBob

(8,190 posts)
4. Perhaps these companies will survive with or without our suppport?
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:07 AM
Yesterday

The list of successful German companies and technology that supported the Wehrmacht that are still around today might surprise you.

Small example: If you wear eyeglasses or have been to the eye Dr, chances are you have benefitted from Nazi optics

Nothing will change you say? Many of these corporations that are still hugely profitable have acknowledged their shady pasts and have changed for the better

ret5hd

(22,335 posts)
25. that's a great way to look at things!
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:36 PM
Yesterday

support fascism because someday it may get better!

FakeNoose

(40,686 posts)
33. If their advertisers insist on changes, that's usually the only reason it happens
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:33 PM
Yesterday

It's never because subscribers dump their free subscriptions. Facebook makes most of their profits from advertising. When advertisers are told "I'm not buying your products because you support Facebook" and if they hear it enough times, THEN things will change on Facebook.

Johnny2X2X

(23,825 posts)
5. The real danger of AI is propaganda
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:13 AM
Yesterday

I fear we're seeing the oligarchy starting to really exercise the power of AI to shape opinion in this country. The bot armies are on the march in every thread across the internet when anyone criticizes the oligarchy. And they're proactively pumping out content to shape views non stop on FB, Youtube, Reddit, and thousands of sites that have comment threads. They don't have to convince everyone, but if they can shape the views of 10-15% of people on different subjects, they can completely control the narrative overall.

It's terrifying to me as I watch it in real time. It's almost like they're just telling the tech giants to, "make the people think this..." and then it gets done.

mysteryowl

(8,699 posts)
8. It sounds like Musk might be in trouble criminally in France.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:21 AM
Yesterday

Their country is working and that raid on his offices could turn into something.

ret5hd

(22,335 posts)
26. that is what i do...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:39 PM
Yesterday

i search amazon for the comparison of brands for an item i am needing, then go to that companies web site to buy directly from them.

Bondor

(67 posts)
15. Alternative to Amazon?
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:35 AM
Yesterday

Is there a good alternative to Amazon for one-stop shopping with cheap or free shipping? I would very much prefer not to support the sycophant Bezos. Who is a more defiant alternative?

maxrandb

(17,281 posts)
17. Therein lies the problem
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:57 AM
Yesterday

I guess we learned nothing from our last "too big to fail" experience.

At one time, I believed that America was "too big to fail", but so far, the jury is out on that.

Maybe I should ask my 98 year old mom what "alternative" to meat they had back in 1941? She's tiny, but would still probably kick my ass for asking.

We are "almost" at a point where we will need to choose between comfort and convenience, or freedom...hell! we may already be there.

So to answer your question; "I don't know", but I think we better figure it out quick.

RainCaster

(13,443 posts)
18. Duck duck go
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:16 AM
Yesterday

I'm starting to use search engines a lot more when shopping. With a little bit of looking, I can find places with a minimum shipping fee and reasonable prices for what I need. I'm willing to put up with a few extra days of shipping, which helps.

kimbutgar

(26,977 posts)
28. I use Ebay but only buy from blue state sellers
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:43 PM
Yesterday

And I have found several things I used to buy on Amazon.

I could quit amazon completely but my husband is now retired and likes to watch the movies on streaming and dosent want me to close out my account

sir pball

(5,287 posts)
31. Amazon doesn't make a ton of money from the retail, so it's kind of the least-bad option
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:15 PM
Yesterday

~25% of their overall profit comes from the retail/entertainment division; the other 75% comes from Amazon Web Services…which is essentially impossible to avoid if you want your Internet to be meaningfully useful.

Hell, DU ultimately runs on AWS, at least last time I checked…

not a texan

(87 posts)
16. I don't like it, but I use Amazon when I need to
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:46 AM
Yesterday

Not asking for sympathy, but living on Big Island means that sometimes if you want or need something that Amazon is the way to go. I shop local for most things but we only make so many things here. Like many places, retail is coming down to a few giants that seem just about as bad as Amazon. It is the free shipping that makes Amazon work. Frequently, the shipping cost on things can rival the price of the object.

Cirsium

(3,662 posts)
19. It never stopped being good for business
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:19 AM
Yesterday

The German oligarchs in the 1930s profited wildly and then walked away with the loot.

‘People should be more aware’: the business dynasties who benefited from Nazis

excerpts:

A new book, Nazi Billionaires, investigates how Germany’s richest business dynasties made fortunes by aiding and abetting Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich. It also examines how, eight decades later, they still escape close scrutiny and a nation that has done so much to confront its catastrophic past still suffers a very particular blind spot.
...
Ferdinand Porsche convinced Hitler to put the Volkswagen Beetle into production. The company thrived under his son, Ferry Porsche, who volunteered for the SS, became an officer and lied about it for the rest of his days. Ferry Porsche designed the first Porsche sports car and surrounded himself with former SS members in the 50s and 60s.
...
Herbert Quandt inherited vast wealth from his father and saved BMW from bankruptcy, becoming the company’s biggest shareholder. Two of his children, Stefan Quandt and Susanne Klatten, are now Germany’s wealthiest family, with close to majority control of the BMW Group, large holdings in the chemical and technology industries and a net worth of about $38bn.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/may/18/nazi-billionaires-book-hitler-bmw-porsche

How Nazi Billionaires Thrived in Postwar Germany

excerpts:

In Nazi Germany, industrialists built vast fortunes from slave labor and stolen Jewish property. In postwar West Germany, they were allowed to keep them — with denazification doing little to trouble those who had profited most from the regime.

The Americans limited the number of trials against industrialists because they didn’t want to put capitalism on trial. At that time, the Cold War was getting started, and the Americans made this policy decision where they wanted to rebuild West Germany as a democratically viable and economically strong state, which would act as a buffer against the Soviet Union and the encroachment of communism.

The denazification of Germany is a myth. It never took place. There was a continuation of money and power from Nazi Germany to West Germany, and also, to an extent, in East Germany, because former SS officers became high-ranking Stasi and party officials. But it was far more pervasive in West Germany, where — in whatever part of society, whether business, legal, medical, academic, or media — there was no denazification.

https://jacobin.com/2022/10/nazi-billionaires-businesses-denazification-de-jong-interview

The Nazi Evil Behind Germany's Wealthiest Companies

It is well known that many dynastic German companies owe their standing to their complicity — even willful participation — in Nazi evil.

excerpts -

Supplying uniforms to the German empire, textile magnate Gunther Quandt made millions during World War I. Shortly after, when electrification was booming worldwide, he gained control of one of the world's largest battery-makers. He soon acquired one of Germany's primary arms and ammo manufacturers. This was just the beginning. He went on to gain stupendous wealth and power through deals with the Nazis. The story of Quandt, as told in David de Jong's Nazi Billionaires: The Dark History of Germany's Wealthiest Dynasties, evokes awe and dread. For it is about soulless profiteering and participation without any qualms in the enslavement and massacre of millions of Jews.

With the advent of the Cold War in 1947, President Harry S. Truman's priorities shifted from punishing Germany to enabling its economic recovery. American occupation made way for German self-governance. Suspected war criminals and Nazi sympathizers were handed over to German courts. Punishments were minor because Germans were reluctant to judge compatriots for what they themselves had indulged in. Truth was a casualty. While Nazi industrialists scrubbed their records clean, the U.S. oversaw a series of acts of clemency in 1950–51, including for Flick. The Korean war was on, so America needed Germany and its industry.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/05/the_nazi_evil_behind_germanys_wealthiest_companies.html

Coventina

(29,439 posts)
20. For all those whining about giving up your convenience:
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:20 AM
Yesterday

ALTERNATIVES ARE THERE IF YOU BOTHER LOOKING!

Quit whining on DU if you find it impossible to give up a tiny bit of comfort.

llmart

(17,458 posts)
42. Amazing how I've gotten through 77 years of my life without buying on Amazon...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:22 PM
18 hrs ago

and never felt deprived. Is there really that much you absolutely need or your life will somehow be terrible without it? I just can't wrap my mind around this obsession Americans have with buying crap they could live without.

Initech

(107,955 posts)
22. In all seriousness, what the fuck does one even *DO* with a trillion dollars?
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:45 AM
Yesterday

A *TRILLION* dollars. That kind of money is unfathomable.

modrepub

(4,016 posts)
24. I'm More Worried That The Next Financial Crisis
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:26 PM
Yesterday

Will mirror 2008 and not the S&L carnage. At least in the later big banks we broken up into much smaller pieces and sold off to buyers instead giving them to big banks making them even bigger. It still bothers me today that more folks weren’t jailed after 2008

Putting people people back in charge after making huge mistakes or executing criminal acts just gives them license to do it again

Initech

(107,955 posts)
30. Tesla, Amazon, and Paramount need to be broken up.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:11 PM
Yesterday

And their owners need to be arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit treason against the United States.

Skittles

(170,181 posts)
43. thank you
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 05:34 AM
10 hrs ago

it absolutely disgusts me how many people have been sucked into the FB borg

NNadir

(37,521 posts)
32. Never had Facebook; never had Twitter/X. As for Amazon...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:29 PM
Yesterday

...yes, we bought stuff from them for convenience and from gift cards we received, but otherwise we're done. My wife and I discussed it last night.

ransomeli

(4 posts)
34. rinse and repeat
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:34 PM
Yesterday

THIS MESSAGE CANNOT BE REPEATED ENOUGH. The cash register will do what voting is not getting done!

cer7711

(610 posts)
36. German Moderates Did Not Make Common Cause with Leftists . . .
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:34 PM
23 hrs ago

. . . to keep the National Socialists out of power.
This is also part of the warning from history.

UNITE TO FIGHT THE RIGHT!

Trailrider1951

(3,574 posts)
38. Yes, I've done that
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 06:38 PM
21 hrs ago

Ditched Amazon last year, fakebook in 2016 when it wanted me to be friends with my psycho boss and my ex husband. Oh Hell No! Never was into Xitter.

If we all stop buying, they will go away.

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