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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan someone explain these new 10 percent tarrifs Trump is imposing and how he was able to get
passed the Supreme court ruling that struck down his original tariffs.
drray23
(8,684 posts)That one limits it to 10 percent and 150 days.
However it has requirements so its likely to be challenged too.
msongs
(73,393 posts)Jspur
(792 posts)Chuck had to say. Let me know what he mentioned about this situation.
surfered
(12,665 posts)Jspur
(792 posts)for me. It's very predictable that he's going to do this every 150 days.
surfered
(12,665 posts)The man is an idiot who thinks hes a genius.
angrychair
(12,025 posts)He can't just renew it every 150 days. I think after the 150 days he has to get congressional authorization. There may be other loopholes but the 150 days expires toward the end of July and I would imagine there will be enough votes by then to prevent him from renewing it.
Bettie
(19,528 posts)for a few days or a week, then start again.
Or, the more likely scenario, he'll ignore the Supreme Court ruling, because there is no enforcement mechanism for such a thing except impeachment and his party won't do that.
He could literally kill someone with hundreds of witnesses and a live feed to millions more and his party would just nod and praise him for his "Presidential" behavior while KKKaroline stood in the briefing room saying that he didn't do it and even if he did, he was 100% within his right as the king of the universe or some such thing.
IcyPeas
(25,252 posts)Initech
(108,280 posts)Talitha
(7,855 posts)And thanks to those who explained it.
LetMyPeopleVote
(177,858 posts)trump's new replacement tariffs are illegal. These tariffs can only be used when there is a balance-of-payments deficit which is very different from a balance of trade deficit. Since the US is no longer on a currency fixed exchange rate there have not been any balance of payment deficits for a couple of decades. These tariffs will be challenged and trump will lose again
Fascinating National Review post on Trump's latest Tariff gambit. Archive link here (it's pay walled, please don't give them money lol)
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https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trumps-section-122-tariffs-are-illegal/
A trade deficit between the U.S. and a foreign nation occurs, mainly in connection with goods (which is just one aspect of international commerce), when imports are greater than exports. This is not really a problem for a variety of reasons e.g., a trade deficit results in an investment surplus, the U.S. is a major services economy and often runs exported services surpluses that mitigate the imports deficit in goods, etc.
The balance of payments is a broader concept than the balance of trade. It accounts for all the economic transactions that take place between the United States and the rest of the world. Even without getting into every kind of transaction that entails, suffice it to say that foreign investment in the United States, coupled with the advantages our nation accrues because the dollar is the worlds reserve currency, more than make up for the longstanding trade deficit in goods.
Our overall payments are in balance. There is no crisis.
Its vital to understand why Section 122 was enacted. There was a financial crisis in the late 60s and early 70s under the Bretton Woods system, when the dollar was tied to gold. Foreign countries that held dollar reserves could exchange them for gold at a fixed rate. Meanwhile, our government was spending at a high clip due to the Vietnam War and Great Society programs. This and the obligation to pay out gold put enormous pressure on the dollar. In response, in 1971, President Nixon severed the dollars tie to gold and as several justices recounted in Fridays Learning Resources opinions imposed a temporary 10 percent import surcharge (a tariff) to stabilize the economy......
There is no rationale under Section 122 to impose tariffs. Because President Trump has no unilateral authority to order tariffs, he must meet the preconditions of Section 122 to justify levying them. He cannot. Not even close.